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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 03/01/1976 k -ix 7 1976 i g MARCH 1 _.a MINUTES 1 'i 'S 7 � I I I v CITY OP EDEN PRAIRIE { j I AGENDA c� EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS , RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, March 1 , 1976 7:30 PM, CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marvin Erickson, Tim Pierce , Richard Anderson, Paul Choiniere , Steve Fifield , William Garens, Francis Helmer, Jerry Kingrey, Geneva Middleton, Brian Mikkelson, Mary Upton COMMISSION STAFF: Marty Jessen, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 111. MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 16, 3976 MEETING. MINUTES OF JAN. 27 JOINT MEETING WITH C COUNCIL 7:45 IV. PETITIONS , REQUESTS, AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Eden Prairie Growth Committee's Statement on Growth B. Eden Prairie Tennis Association C . Minnetonka Community Services "Anything Goes" Contest D. Notice of MRPA Board and Commission Section Workshop, 3- 1 1-76 Commissioner Anderson V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS 8:00 A. Reports of Commissioners I . Councilman Pierce C2. School Board Director Middleton 3 . Commissioner Upton - Eden Prairie In Action Parks , Recreation & Natural -2- Mon. , Mar. 1 , 1976 Resources Commission 8:15 B. Reports of Staff 1 . Recreation Activities a. Community Gardens b. 1976 Spring Program { c. 1975-76 Mini-Rink Program Report 2. Development Proposals i 8:30 a. Edenvale 11th 8:45 b. Condon-Naegele Realty 9:00 VI. OLD BUSINESS A. 1976 Commission Goals - Chairman Erickson B. 9:30 VII. NEW BUSINESS A. B. VIII. ADTOURNMENT Y i approved M I N U T E S PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL R-,SOURCBS COMMISSION MONDAY, 111AR.CH 1, 1976 7:30 PM CITY HALL MEIRWS PENT: Chairman Marvin Erickson, Tim Pierce, Willitua Garens, Jerry Kinarey,. Richard Anderson, Mary Upton, Steve Fifield, and Brian blikkelson MEMBERS ABSENT: Paul Choiniere, Francis Helmer, and Geneva Middleton r STAFF PRESE1IT: Marty Jessen, Director of Community Services Sandy Werts, Recreation Supervisor g ' OTHERS PRESENT: Duncan Laidlaw and A:B.Reynolds, E. P. Tennis Association, and Tom Bartel, E. P. Community News Chairman Erickson asked the tennis club representatives to make their presenta- tion., although the Commission lacked a quorum at that time. IV. PLTITIOTIS. rEoCJESTS,y APID C012dUNICATIO172 B. Eden Prairie Tennis_Association Duncan Lairllaw and A.B.Rey'nolds made the presentation for the E. P. Tennis Association, uiscussing reasons for their organizing the activi- ties to dato and outlining some of the goals. They explainpd that some of the requests they are making of the PR & NR Com. are: advice on "detennini.ng liabilities", permission to use courts on certain days and certain Hours, help with tournaments and advertising, ability to sot a fee, suggestions on construction of a uoa.ther and vandal-proof ladder, and possibly, paper for the printing of a tennis player dictionary. The representatives responded to questions from the Commission. Kingrey volunteered -to be liason member between tennis club and PR & NR Commission. s Erickson referred to Staff for consideration and come bac}: with .a re- a port at a future meeting. s,+ T.he meeting was officially called to order at 8:15 PM, after quorum was estab- lishod. r 1I. APPROVAL OF .1l��FT2U Jessen requosted the doletion of V.A. 2. Report of School Board j21rec .or 1,Lddlcton because of her absence. NOTION: Kiur-;rey moved, socondod by Anderson, to approve Agonda as revised. Motion carried unanimously. Minutes - Parks, Rea. and Page Two Natural Resources Com. approved March 1, 1976 C~ III. MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 16. 1976 1,1EETING Page 7, third para. from bottom, delete 'Anderson commented that Penzel had always made a point to abstain from any votes that came before the Council." MOTION: Anderson moved, seconded by Kingrey, to approve Minutes of the February 16, 1976 meeting as revised. Motion carried unanimously. MINUTES OF JANUARY_27, 1976 JOINT MEhmic, WITH THE; COUNCIL MOTION: Garens moved, seconded by Kingrey, to receive and file Minutes of the Joint Council, Parks, Recreation and Natural Commission meeting of January 27, 1976. Motion carried unanimously. IV. PETITIONS, REgUESTS AND C01•1HUNICATIONS A. Eden Prairie Growth Committee's Statement on Growth Jessen spoke to the News Release dated February 19, 1976 submitted for Commission's information and responded to questions. MOTION: Kingrey moved, seconded by Anderson, to receive and file the C News Release on Elden Prairie Growth Committee's Statement on Growth, dated February 19, 1976. Motion carried unanimously. B. Eden Prairie Tennis Association Presentation made at the beginning of meeting. Action was to refer to Staff, with a report to the Cormission at a future meeting. C. Minnetonka Connunity Services °Anvthine Goes" Contest i Jessen explained that ten communities are invited to participate, with winning communities awarded cash prizes to be used toward their park program. He added that the Council referred it to PR & 14R for consideration. } 140TION: Garens moved, seconded by Anderson, to direct Staff to v continue to investigate feasibility of participation by Eden Prairie in the "Everything Goes' Contest. Motion carried unanimously. D. Notice of MRPA Board rind Commission Section Workshop -11-76 4 Commissioner Anderson spoke to the bTZPA Workshop to be hold on March 3-1, i 1976. lie said it will deal with issues that several. Communities in the Metro area are concerned with, such as, economic impact of Dutch_ elm di.sease, and trail design, planning, funding, and management, and felt it would be very informative. PG Jessen suggested that interested members contact him. � { Minutes - Parks, Rec. and Page Three Natural Resources Com. `i-approved March 1, 1976 V. RECOP•4•&'NDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners 1. Councilman Pierce Councilman Pierce reported on Council action of approval of the creative play structure at Forest Hills, of acceptance of Memo on Joint Projects with Riley. Purgatory Creek Watershed District, with uncertainty of whether Pemtom Island or the Miller brothers' property was of highor priority, and the Park Use ordinance, which was referred to the Staff with request to the Commission for recommendations for changes to bring back to the Council. Jessen commented on the question raised by the Council regarding priority of Pemtom Island and Miller brothers' property, and offered to include on the next Agenda or open for discussion tonight. Members agreed on including the question on the next Agenda because of its' importance. 2. School Board Director Middleton t Deleted because of absence of Director Middleton. C3. Commissioner Upton - Eden Prairie in Action Since Upton was absent for this part of the meeting, Garens spoke to the Committee 's report. He felt that the proposed survey to be used at the E.P. In Action weekend would be meaningless because you are talking to a biased group of people, those who are interested in their community, and he felt the the poll would be inaccurate. F Erickson felt the survey would be important if some people would be y t willing to sign the questionnaire, and these people could be con- tacted for neighborhood meetings. Jessen suggested using the survey at all community events and meetings, therefore getting a good coverage of all segments of the community. Discussion of the contents of the survey took place, with the addition of"ballfields"to the "youth sports complex", addition of "tennis courts" to No. 7; and with various suggestions for change in question Nos. 8 through 8c and No. 9. Wt YAW B. Reports of Staff E' 1. Recreation Activities a. Coimninity CRrdens Jessen spoke to memo of h'ebruary 27 and referred to good response in the survey. i r Minutes - Parks, Rec. and Page Four Natural Resources Com. approved March 1, 1976 C� a. Community Gardens (Cont1d) Garens commented that the need for adequate water was the most impor- tant factor for the success of the gardens and requested that ways to accomplish this be looked into. g MOTION: Garens moved, seconded by Kingrey, to approve community gardens as discussed in the- Staff report of February 27, 1976. Motion carried unanimously. b. 1976 Snr.iM Pro,�r�m Jessen briefly touched on Memo of February 27, and turned over the z floor to Sandy Werts, Recreation Supervisor for questions. . Kingrey expressed concern for the 'yin between" age group that activities were not provided for. Jessen responded that they are trying to get some feedback from the students concerned. Kingrey stressed the impor- tance of volunteer leadership. . ' MOTION: Kingrey moved, seconded by Anderson, to approve Spring Skill C Development Programs as presented in memo of February 27, 1976. �+ Motion carried unanimously. r . C c. 1975-76 Mini-Rink 2'roram Renor.t k3. Werts :;poke to the report and commented on the outcome of monitoring attendance at the various rinks on certain days and times, and which r. proved to be sparodic. The use of the shed at Flying Cloud mini-rink for a warming house and lighting were discussed, with Werts commenting that she would contact ,, } FPAA for next year and also find out the cost of electricity for the lighting. r Anderson was concerned that the mini-rinks were not being used enough, and commented that some parents have been driving the children to the ` major rinks. Jossen responded that the rinks have not been re-evaluated completely and when it is, he will bring back a report on the situation. i Fifiel.d and l:ikkolson left at 9:00 PM. 2. Devc)oi),nenl I,rommals Jessen spoke to previously approved plan which had been zoned for duplexes, and which now hfus bent: chanced to proposal for 22 single family homes, with small lots and dotachcd garages, in the N30,000 to ;?36,000 house range. He added that the prom .�1 has been before the Planning; Commission, and the Council will hear it at the next Council meeting. g Piorco askud whether thoy had indicated time when the tot lots would be built. Jessen responded that it would be in conjunction with this project. Minutes - Parks, Roe. and Page Five Natural Resources Com. ;_approved March 1, 1976 a. Edenvale llth (cont'd) Some of the Commissioners felt the trails should be built at the same time as it is developed, although it does give the developer a front end load. Upton arrived at 9:20 PM. MOTIOM Kingrey moved, seconded by Garens, to recommend approval of the Edenvale llth Addition proposal subject to: building of tot lot, plans for mini-park area 'and the beginning of construction t of that area, and development of a trail plan. Motion carried, with Upton abstaining. W. OLD BIISINESS A. JU6 Commission Goals - Chairman Erickson Chairman rxickson spoke to Draft I of 1976 Commission Goals that he and JeSsen had drawn up. Be asked for additions or deletions, and that members contact either Jossen or himself if they wanted any changes. VII. NIMM '0IiS11TI -103 Chairman Erickson announced that Jessen would be gone the week of the next scheduled PR & NR meeting and asked for suggestions for date of next meeting. 140TION: Carens moved, seconded by Upton, to cancel the meeting of March 15, 1976, if there was no pressing business; otherwise, the meeting would be held on March 22, 1976, and members would be contacted by Chairman Erickson by the 17•ch. V. RLCO2dI-SIMATIOTIS AND REPORTS (Cont'd from top of this page) 2. Development Pronosal n b. Condo n,`;daertel.o R.ealt Jessen referred to Council granting the 1st reading approval for re-zoning with referral back to the Commissions for any specific points on the agreement. He said the re-zoning agreement presiunably will occur at the second reading. He spoke to the four conditions idontifiod in the memo of February 27, and asked for Commission's consideration of these points, so they can be approved by the Council. lie suggested either re-statement of early recommendation- or change of the recommendation to whatevor Commission wanted. do Pierce responded to request by the Commission for reasons for the approval of the re'-zoning by the Council when two Commissions recor=endod donial. Minutes - Parks, Rec. and Page Six Natural Resources Com. ,Yapproved March 1, ].976 b. Condon-NaefTele Realty (Cont' Pierce said this is one reason why Eden Prairie has two readings for a change of zoning and that we are very unique this way. He stressed that these were his own feelings and opinions and does not affect any individual's opinion but his own. Pierce felt that the use of the land was in adherence with the Comprehensive Guide Plan, but it might be against the Smetana Study as far as Smetana is is concerned. I?a felt that consideration must be given because of the tax base, and added that the Council is now requiring from developers and Staff, information on estimate of taxes at the completion of the project, along with City and Ichool 'District's share, and other tax related information. lie added that they are dedicating 54 acres around Smetana and Nine Mile Creek. Kingrey spoke to the Commission's question of whether this was the best way to use the Land. Pierce answered that they had ta]Y-ed to several pro- ponents but could not coine up with anything. Anderson spoke to the point that they had fought to preserve this area, and that the Gelco structureonAnderson Lakes had to agree to specific treatment because they would he setting an example for future building. He added that this was also required of the Preserve, and that auto dealerships would not be consistent. Pierce commented that we are getting to the point where someone has to pay for this, and that if we keep turning down developers, we will not have the money to pay for things. Erickson oxpre;ssed his concern about tax dollars, and felt that there would be tax dollars from this proposal, one of the reasons being there were no children. He believed that Condon-Naegele could be pursuaded to develop k the site with co.,=en sense, such as Gelco, and felt it was important to pro- tect the Eden Prairie Center. Tom Bartel, L. P. Community News, asked about the Protective Life Ins. Bldg. proposal that was before the Council, and whether this could be considered F in place of the Condon-Nae-ale proposal. Pierce responded that it was a question of economics and that there was a difference in lend values. Kingrey could not accept the idea that we had to "jump at the car dealership" propose]. ,yet, and felt that it In an attractive site for many uses and has tromc!ndous visual appeal to tre traveling public. Erickson spoke to the point that if development in Eden Prairie had continued as it was before the economy went down, we would not even have to talk about it. Anderson wanted it to be I--notiAtthnt the Commission was not against auto dealer- ships in Won Prairie, but not in that location, and that they have made a committment to Golco, the Preserve, and to this community. - r Minutes - Parks, Roc. and �' Page Seven Natural Resources Commission 1`r,.approved March 1, 1976 b. Condon-Naet�ele Realty nt1d) Pierce suggested a structural design that would contain the cars inside the building. Upton asked if the car dealershirtsdo not go in there how long will it take before-we can get someone else. Pierce said they did not know. NOTION: ISinvrey .moved, seconded by Upton, to accept the Memo dated Februnry 27, 1976, from the Staff regarding Condon Naegele Re-zoning Agreement, subject to the following revision: Delete first paragraph, add "This proposal should be denied. If not denied,and if the property Is used for an auto dealership or auto dealerships, all automobiles should be kept under attractive types of structures previously approved by the City Staff." Motion carried, with Pierce abstaining. VIII. ADJOU13'MTIT Anderson movod, seconded by Pierce, to adjourn at 10:00 PM. Submitted byy Domia Stanley Recording Sec..ed;ary