HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 07/23/1973 1973
JULY 9 , 23
MINUTES
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
MINUTES
• EDEN PRAIRIE PARK & RECREATION COMMISSION
C Monday, July 9 , 1973 7:3 0 p.m. , Village Hall
Members Present: Vice Chairman Bill Garens, Dean Holasek, Terry Fields,
Marge O'Ryan, Rita Kooiman, Frances Blacklock, Roger
Boerger.
Members Absent: Chairman Marvin Erickson, Dick Anderson, Jan Berkland,
Steve Eisch.
Staff Present: Marty lessen, Director of Parks and Recreation.
Dick Putnam, Village Planner.
Also present: Jim Blackburn, Bud Belk, Frank Hartmann, and Geneva
Middleton representing the Anderson Lakes Property Owner's
Association Dick Knutson representing Ecklund & Swedlund;
Don Hess and John Gertz representing The Preserve;
Emerson Greenberg and J. W. Bell representing Gelco Corp.
The meeting was called to order at 7:45 p.m. by Vice Chairman Garens.
I. MINUTES OF JUNE 25 , 1973 , MEETING.
M/Blacklock, S/O'Ryan to approve the minutes of the June 25, 1973, meeting
as presented. Motion carried unanimously.
II. PETITIONS, REQUESTS & COMMUNICATIONS.
A. Appointment of Commissioner to the Steering Committee for the Purgatory
Creek Park Planning Study.
lessen reported that the contract between the Village and the Watershed
District and Brauer & Associates had been executed, and that the Watershed
District had requested the formation of a Steering Committee to oversee the
planning process. The proposed Steering Committee would consist of four
people: a representative of the Park & Recreation Commission, a repre-
sentative of the Watershed District Board of Managers, the Village Park &
Recreation Director, and the Watershed District's engineer.
Vice Chairman Garens appointed Dick Anderson to serve as the Commissioner
on this Steering Committee.
B. Notice of meeting to discuss the future of Lower Minnesota River at the
Bloomington City Hall on July 11 , 1973 , at 7:30 p.m.
lessen stated that he had been contacted by Mr. Joe White from Bloomington
about a meeting to be held this coming Wednesday to discuss the Lower
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CMinnesota River and its, future as an open space resource or as an
urban development area. Jessen also indicated that he'd had discussions
with a representative of the U.S. Dept. of Interior, Bureau of Sport
Fisheries and Wildlife, concerning the possibility of their taking some
interest in establishing this area as a national recreation or wildlife area.
Blacklock stated that she would be attending this meeting and would
report back on details of the discussion at the next Commission meeting.
C. Communication from Congressman Bill Frenzel's office advising us that
Eden Prairie's request for LAWCON contingency funds for Anderson Lakes
Park has been rejected.
Jessen stated that he was called by Kathy McCright from Congressman
Frenzel's office last week and told that the Bureau of Outdoor Recreation
had rejected the request for LAWCON contingency funding for the Anderson
Lakes Park. He stated that no explanation nor written notification to this
effect had been received by the Village and that efforts to contact key people
in the Bureau of Outdoor Recreation in Washington by the Congressman's
office and by Senator Mondale's office have not been successful. Jessen
then presented a copy of the revised parcel priorities for the Anderson Lakes
( Park area and stated that he was meeting the following day (Tues., 7/10/73)
with representatives of the Metropolitan Council and others concerning the
establishment of priorities for expenditure of 1974 LAWCON monies and
State Natural Resource Regional Park Funds. Jessen reviewed the parcel
priority list. John Gertz from The Preserve asked the approximate timing
for this funding and Jessen responded by indicating that it could be any
time from November, 1973, on into 1974
D. Letter from Jim Solem, Director, State Planning Agency, advising Eden ,
Prairie of final approval of a State Natural Resources Grant in the amount
of $311, 050 for 1.00% of the estimated purchase price of the Gorra property
at Anderson Lakes.
Jessen reported that the letter contract with the State Planning Agency and
the Village had been received and executed, and that the State had forwarded
a check in the amount of $311 ,05 0 to the Village for this project.
III, RECOMMENDATIONS & REPORTS.
A. Acrencv Liaison Reports.
Fields reported that he has been appointed the new chairman of the Picnic
Pavilion Committee of the Eden Prairie Lions Club and would be working
with the Park & Recreation Staff to develop final plans for this pavilion.
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Holasek stated that the Jaycees were proceeding with their playground
equipment design and would be meeting with the 'Staff next week to
review it, and that this item would probably be on the next Park &
Recreation Commission agenda.
B. Recommendation for a Fee Schedule for Groups Requesting Park Use.
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Jessen distributed copies of his report to the Commission and reviewed it
for the Commission. One item which was left out of the report was the
requirement of a $25 deposit for resident organizations and individual
resident groups to use Round Lake Park, and this should be included as a '
requirement for group use of the area.
M/Blacklock, S/Boerger that the recommended fee schedule be approved.
Motion carried unanimously.
C. Eden Prairie Athletic Association Hockey Rink Request.
Jessen distributed copies of the preliminary report dealing with this request
and stated that he would ask Steve Sopczak and Bill Geimer from the Athletic
Association to be present at the next meeting to discuss it in detail with
the Commission.
�- D. Development Proposals:
1. Basswoods Final Plat.
Jessen presented the original Basswoods Concept Plan and stated that
they were now requesting Final Plat Approval for the area. He outlined
areas of concern as the Staff viewed the Final Plat. Primary among
these concerns is the delineation of the easement area through the plat
and the wording of the easement and the iddntification of the boundary
line between public, quasi-public, and private lands. Jessen stated
that Dr. Dave Weaver, Wildlife Management Specialist for the
Hennepin County Park Reserve District, has reviewed the Anderson Lakes
site and suggested that a fence be constructed along the west shore in
order to maintain the wildlife habitat that presently exist at the lake.
Jessen also reported that Jim Robin has done a comparable study for The
Preserve, and that he has been told that his findings were much the
same, that access to the west shore of the lake had to be limited if
it were to continue to be an outstanding wildlife habitat.
Don Hess, representing The Preserve, indicated that they have con-
structed utilities and streets, and staked out final lot boundaries
through the Basswoods area, and that the management objective for the
park needs to be clearly defined before any agreement can be reached i
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on the need for fencing in this area. He stated that he felt the
management objective for the lake had changed since the concept
plan for The Preserve had been presented and that if the management
objective has changed, that The Preserve needs to reconsider their.
design. Blacklock stated that she had raised the question of the
treatment of the lake shore at the concept stage when George Carter
first brought in The Preserve plan, but she was told then that it was
not the time for discussion of such details but that this would be
resolved at the detail stage.
Geneva Middleton made reference to the new Public Shoreland Act
which covers the removal of vegetation, drainage problems, or
screening necessitated by urban development adjacent to public
waters in the state. She stated that the Department of Natural
Resources is required to promulgate standards for model shoreland
management acts to be adopted by municipalities. The DNR is
required to produce these standards by lanuary_1, 1974. Hess stated
that The Preserve wants the public to control the lakeshore, thus
the dedication of the 50 feet west of the 840 elevation. The Preserve
feels that the possibility of a public pathway can be accommodated on
this area and that the additional scenic easement west of the dedication
will adequately protect the natural character of the lake.
A work session with The Preserve is scheduled for Sunday at 1 p.m.
to walk the Basswoods area and the entire west shore of the Anderson
Lakes, after which a discussion of the treatment of the area and the
management objective for the park will take place.
Hess also requested that the Commission consider a picnic at The
Preserve Center on July 23 , 1973, at 5:30 p.m. at which time the
revisions to The Preserve Center design would be discussed with the
Commission, the Planning Commission, and the Council. The revisions
presently being considered deal with types of facilities being planned
and the uses programmed for the area. No action was taken. Hess
will contact lessen about details and notifications will then be sent to
all Commissioners and Council Members.
2. Edenvale South PUD Concept Plan.
lessen distributed copies of the Edenvale South brochure and discussion
will occur at the next Park & Recreation Commission meeting.
3. Gelco Corporation.
lessen briefly reviewed the Gelco Development Proposal, which now
calls for the dedication of 4 acres of land along the lakeshore and no
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Cother public open space area. He reviewed the planning staff report
dated July 3, 1973, which suggested that the 4 acre dedication along
the lakeshore was adequate, provided that the entire wet marsh area
on the Gelco property also be protected in perpetuity, either through
dedication to the Village or proper easement agreements between the
Village and the landowner. Mr. Greenberg, representing Gelco, stated
that they requested that the easement on this marsh area not be in
perpetuity but'rather provide for a 5 year review, at which time Gelco
could request modification of the easement. He stated that Gelco
realizes they can't do anything with the marsh, but they would like to
have this consideration so that they will be able to negotiate better
with the Village at a later date and not have someone hold up the piece
of paper and tell them that they have no position to negotiate from.
ti Geneva Middleton again referenced the DNR standards to be drawn by
January 1 , 1974, and asked that the Commission table this proposal
until these standards are completed. She also stated that residents in
the Anderson Lakes area feel that it is crucial that West 78th Street
be closed prior to the opening of Gelco, were they to build on this
location. Garens suggested that the Commission ought to be consistent
with what The Preserve has dedicated along the Anderson Lakes and
entertained a motion consistent with the dedication of 50 feet adjacent
to the lake and the provision of an easement equal to an average of
170 feet in addition to this dedication.
M/O'Ryan that the Park. & Recreation Commission recommend approval
of the Gelco Concept Plan provided that a dedication of 50 feet back
from the lakeshore and marsh area be made to the Village and that an
additional 170 foot average be protected through the use of an easement
agreement between Gelco and the Village, that this area of dedication
and easement completely surround the wet marsh area on the eastern
side of Gelco's property adjacent to the Pintail Point area of Anderson
Lakes. There was no second to this motion. O'Ryan then amended
her motion to accept the staff recommendation recommending approval
of the concept tomah eg anning Commission and the Council with
the dedication VA4 acres oiland along the lakeshore and the provision
of an easement in perpetuity to the Village of Eden Prairie for the entire
marsh and its adjoining slopes. S/Garens. Geneva Middleton suggested
that this was a very inadequate open space provision through the area.
Jessen indicated that it was in fact open space of nearly 12 acres as
opposed to the approximately 8 acres presently zcned as open space on
the Village Zoning Map. i
Blacklock stated that the Park and Recreation Commission was not
against Gelco Corporation in any way, but was for preserving the
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natural beauty of Eden Prairie and for protecting in perpetuity, not
just for 5 years, those natural features which are deemed to be
significant, of which Anderson Lakes is one of those features.
Upon a roll call vote,Fieldsvoted aye, Holasek aye, Boerger aye,
O'Ryan aye, Blacklock no, Garens aye. The motion was declared
passed, 5 to 1.
4. Hidden Ponds Revised Plan.
Mr. Knutson, representing Ecklund & Swedlund, presented the revised
plan for the Second Phase of the Hidden Ponds development. The
major changes deal with the alignment of the parkway road running
north/south through the project. The open space area being proposed
includes the natural trailway existing along the abandoned railroad '
right of way and also provides an area of approximately 400 X 400
for field games and other recreational use.
M/Holasek, S/Fields that the Park & Recreation Commission recommend
to the Planning Commission and the Council approval of the revised plan.
Motion carried unanimously.
5. Removal of trees on the Art Hyde Property on the western edge of the
Ring Route.
ressen stated that last Thursday afternoon, approximately 25-30 trees
had been cut on this property. This action is inconsistent with the
recommendations of the Major Center Area Task Force, and particularly
with the Environment Sub-Committee and the Park and Recreation
Commission recommendations that the entire slope be protected from
land alteration in urban development. He indicated that it is apparent
that Mr. Hyde wants to grade his property, using the stable material
in the hill to fill the flood plain. Putnam indicated that the Village
needs to review all of its land alteration ordinances to insure that we
have the legal tools to carry out sound land use planning. These tools
ought to include such things as a land alteration permit, tree cutting
permit, etc. Blacklock expressed the Commission's concern over
Mr. Hyde's action and suggested that the Staff do everything possible
to halt any further alteration of the site. Fields suggested that perhaps
a local environmental impact statement be required for any action
which has a significant effect on the natural features of the Village.
IV. ADIOURNMENT.
M/Fields, S/O'Ryan that the meeting be adjourned. Motion carried
unanimously.
\, AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, JULY 23, 1973
7:30 P.M., Eden Prairie Village Hall
ROLL CALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Marvin Erickson, Frances Blacklick,
Dean Holasek, Richard Anderson, William Garens,
Terry Fields, Janet Berkland, Rita Kooiman,
Steve Eisch, Marge O'Ryan
COMMISSION STAFF: Marty Jessen, Park and Recreation Director
I. MINUTES OF JULY 9, 1973 MEETING.
II. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS:
A. Minnesota Citizens Committee::Meeting — July 25, 1973, 7:30p.m.
Eden Prairie Village Hall.
B. Letter from Lower Minnesota River Watershed District.
III. RECOMMENDATION§ AND REPORTS:
A. Agency Liaison Reports.
�_.. B. Eden Prairie Athletic Association Hockey Rink Bequest,
C. Eden Prairie Jaycees — Round Lake Play Apparatus Concept.
X,,, 1973 Summer Recreation Program Status Report.
E. Development Proposal
1. Basewoods
2. Edenvale South
3. Southeast Eden Prairie Sector Planning
IV. ADJOURNMENT,
NOTE: The "Preserve" picnic will-be held later in the. summer.
MINUTES
PARK & RECREATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, JULY 23 , 1973 7:30 p.m. , Village Hall
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MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice Chairman Bill Garens, Terry Fields, Rita Kooiman,
Jan Berkland, Frances Blacklock, Dick Anderson, Dean
Holasek.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman Marvin Erickson, Marge O'Ryan, Steve Eisch,
Roger Boerger
STAFF"PRESENT: Marty Jessen, Director of Parks & Recreation
Chris Enger, Landscape Architect
Dick Putnam, Village Planner 1
Also Present: Bill Bonner, Hustad Development Corporation
I. MINUTES OF JULY 9, 1973 , MEETING
M/Fields, S/Blacklock to approve the minutes of the July 9, 1973 , meeting as
presented. Motion carried unanimously.
II. PETITIONS, REQUESTS & COMMUNICATIONS.
A. Minnesota River Citizen's Committee Meeting, July 25, 1973, 7:30 p.m.
( Eden Prairie Village Hall.
jessen stated that the Citizen's Committee formed to study and promote the
concept of a national wildlife and recreation area along the lower Minnesota
River was going to be meeting this Wednesday at the Eden Prairie Village Hall.
Fran Blacklock stated that she had attended the last meeting of this Citizen's
Committee and that the thrust of the group was to promote legislation to
establish this as a national wildlife and recreation area, whereby Congress
would"appropriate money for the acquisition of the area. She stated that the .
group W;6s very informally structured at this time but would be reviewing
legislation to the effect of acquisition and also reviewing ownership and
project'""boundaries at the Wednesday meeting.
B. metier fta.'m the Lower Minnesota River Watershed District.
jessen presented copies of and reviewed a letter from Mr. Casimer Lubansky,
pre::i.den't of the Lower Minnesota River Watershed District Board of Managers, r
indicating that the District has some $60,000 available for joint venture
projects with municipalities in the District for the remainder of 1973. Jessen
stated that he would be reviewing the Village's situation in this area and would
be making the recommendation after the Wednesday night Citizen's Committee
meeting.
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III. RECOMMENDATIONS & REPORTS
A. Agency Liaison Reports.
lessen stated that Dick Anderson, Chris Enger, and himself had met with j
Don Pennie and Al Gebhart from the Riley-Purgatory Creek Watershed District
and with George Farnsworth and John Tietz from Brauer & Associates in the
first steering committee for the Purgatory Creek Park Planning Study this
past afternoon. Mr. Norman Stone is presently doing the naturalist study of
the area to identify outstanding natural features along the creek. Other data
is also being gathered and will be pulled together during the planning study
during which time the open space corridor along the creek and uses within
that corridor will be identified.
B. Eden Prairie Athletic Association Hockey Rink Request.
Mr. Steve Sopczak, head of the Eden Prairie Athletic Association Hockey
Program, was present to talk about the association's need in terms of
facilities for the upcoming season. He reviewed the EPAA hockey schedule
for the past year which called for their using the rinks every day except
Friday. The organization has seen a growth from 70 boys three years ago to
an anticipated 150 for the 1973/74 season. These boys are in grades 2
through 9. The Association is also considering a speed skating program for
both boys and girls this coming year. EPAA teams play against Richfield,
Bloomington, Edina, and other surrounding communities during the hockey
( season.
The hockey budget is approximately $6,000 per year of which $1,500 to
$2,000 will be raised from registration fees. The limited population and the
fact that it is disbursed over a large area are problems facing EPAA in the
hockey program, according to Sopczak.
Berkland asked what it cost to outfit a player. Sopczak responded that $25
for uniforms, which the EPAA paid for, plus some $50 on up for equipment for
each individual player, and added that while this may seem high, some of
the players on Edina traveling teams spend from $600-800 per year to participate
in hockey.
Anderson asked about the likelihood of the school district paying 50% of the
cost of constructing the rink. lessen replied that the school so far has not
looked on the construction of hockey rinks as an appropriate facility at
elementary schools, thus this possibility had not been explored.
M/Garens, S/Fields that the Park & Recreation Commission recommend to the
Village Council that because of increased demand brought about by an
increased number of participants and the desire to provide better service to the
residents of the community, the Council should appropriate the funds for the
construction of the third lighted hockey and free skating facility to be located
at the Prairie View School Park. Motion carried unanimously.
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Eden Prairie a Gees Round Lake Park Play A aratus Concept.
C.
CChris Enger presented a concept for the play apparatus that the Jaycees
will be constructing at Round Lake Park. des Cc
materials ones flexibleral
materials to be used in the construction an P
design which will enable the youngsters
to have the in the concepttus is be different
things at different times. One of the
inclusion of a movable f the apparatus This would allowich would be of the
for moving the various
"lincoln log type of construction.
components of the overall apparatus and to rebuild them based on the mood
of the moment. Enger stated that the Jaycees had reviewed this concept and
supported the design as presented.
M/Holasek, S/Berkland that the Mo ion carried unanimously on approve
the play concept as presented.
D. 1973 Summer Recreation Program Status Report.
lessen distributed copies of
the report to the Commission and reviewed them
briefly. Copy of report on
E. Development Proposals.
1 . Basswoods.
lessen reviewed the status of the Basswoods proposal fo The present
g the
Commission's field trip in the area a week ago Sunday.
park boundary is 50 ft. from the
8t Oit in soion of the me placesAndnrso�her places,
n Lakes
with a scenic easement adjacent
the 50 ft. dedication btae only oen space substantial problem. The Preserve has also
along the lake*
and this is viewed toe
proposed that no use of the area by the public be permitted. lessen
stated that he felt this was in conflict with the basic proposal of public
ownership of the lake shore. He stated that,of the Anderson it
area advisedhad
him that to protect the wildlife habitat
was essential that control of this area be exercise The Preserves in their presentationthrough the
of a fence along the west boundary.
of the concept plan forBasswoods ,
respond to been
advised of thThe Preserve hhas also askA on
and has failed to adequately
Mr. Jim Robin, landscape architect, to conduct a study of this area.
He has done so and has also indicated the need for control of natural environment. eoplen areas
along the west shore while protecting theof the
suggested that a fence be placed along the entire western boundary
hose areas in
park whereby the park permitted during various times of the manager/naturalist could control tyear. The Preserve
which people were osing
has taken a negative stand oen this issue d fais mily
lot ownerstin the access not
be limited to this area by the
r private single am
Basswoods, but that access to the area by the public be restricted entirely.
recommended that no further action on the
Ba
sed on this impasse, lessen
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r Basswoods development proposal be taken until a study is conducted
of this park area to determine the exact methods necessary to reach
the Village's objectives in this area and a reasonable solution has i
been worked out between the Village and the developer.
Anderson stated that the Commission is very disploased with The
Preserve's action in the Basswoods since concept approval was granted
on the proposal. He stated that it is apparently an attempt by The
Preserve to make private lakeshore out of the publicly dedicated land.
and that this is definitely in conflict with Village objectives in the area.
Enger stated that Don Hess from The Preserve called earlier in the day
to say that The Preserve feels that the Village has changed their
position from one of no control on the west shore to control of the area
through fencing. Blacklock stated that this is not true, that when the
Basswoods concept plan was presented the Village did make reference
to the need to control access to the area from The Preserve and had in
fact charged The Preserve with developing the plan to this effect.
Anderson suggested that the Staff commence work immediately to develop
exact wording for the scenic easement in The Preserve area and also in
other areas of the community so that any future problems might be
resolved before the point of final plat approval.
M/Berkland, S/Fields that the Park & Recreation Commission and Planning
and Zoning Commission and the Village Council take no action on-any
Basswoods development proposals until the problem of control and land
use on the west shore of Anderson Lakes is resolved. Motion carried
unanimously.
2 . Southeast Eden Prairie Sector Planning Report
Mr. Bill Bonner, representing Hustad Development Corporation, presented
the preliminary Southeast Eden Prairie Sector Plan and reviewed the open
space components of it. The plan was done in basically three steps: one
was to identify the greenway systems which in turn would somewhat
dictate transportation systems which would dictate together the land use
decisions in the area. Major open spaces include the Anderson Lakes
Regional Park, Neill Lake, Purgatory Creek, the Olympic Hills Golf
Course, and Lake Edenvale. These determine the transportation systems
because of the very limited potential for roadways through these unique
features of the area.
The Plan identifies four school/park sites: 1) the existing location in The
Preserve; 2) a site presently owned by the School District in Edenvale
South; and two proposed sites, one lying east of Purgatory Creek and one
west of Purgatory Creek. Garens questions whether or not this was
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adequate active play space in this sector of the community. He stated
that he felt there was a place for an intermediate play area in the Sector
�. Plan, also. These would be spaces between totlots and the school/park
sites in a hierarchical structure of active recreation space. Anderson
agreed and suggested that this component of the open space recreational
system plan needed to be studied further.
Putnam stated that he felt the Sector Plan was weak in this area and that
the Village needed to take steps to acquire significant open spaces now
so that we can preserve the option to develop school parks, active
recreation spaces, community play fields, or natural open space areas
at a later date.
No action was taken on the Sectrr Plan at this point. pending a further
analysis and study of the open space areas, particularly the major
natural features plus the more significant active recreation locations
within the Sector Plan.
A. Prairie East Development Proposal - Hustad Development Corporation.
Putnam briefly reviewed the Prairie East component of the Sector Plan,
indicating that it had a high density with very little usable open space
provided. He stated that he felt there were too many units for the amount
of active recreation space. Bonner indicated that the plan was flexible
and could include up to 10 acres of open space in combination of usable
active recreation space and amenity open space.
B. Olympic Hills P.U.D.
Putnam briefly reviewed the Olympis Hills proposal which now calls for
9 houses in the middle of the golf course whereas 11 single family lots
were planned previously. It also continues to promote multiple development
along the east side of the golf course, including substantial development
down in the low area adjacent to the course. The Staff has tentatively
identified a deer corridor through the golf course in this low area and
has suggested that no development occur on the steep slopes where the
large single family lots are proposed.
C. Edenvale South.
Putnam briefly reviewed the Edenvale South P.U.D. and indicated that a
major concern in this proposal was whether the school/park area was to
be acquired through purchase or through dedication and whether or not
Eden Land Corporation would give consideration to further dedication
around the "Lake Edenvale" portion of the area.
No action was taken on any of the three specific development proposals
nor the entire Southeast Eden Prairie Sector Plan. The Staff will develop
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a report on each of these areas in light of the overall sector planning
effort and will be included on the next Commission agenda.
IV. ADJOURNMENT.
M/Fields, S/Anderson that the meeting be adjourned. Motion carried
unanimously.