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1973
FEBRUARY 12 , 26
MINUTES
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Monday, February 12, 1973 6:30 p.m., Village Hall
ROLL CALL
I. MINUTES OF JANUARY 22, 1973 MEETING
II. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS
A. Agency Liaison Reports
B. 1973 Winter-Spring Recreation Program Report.
C. 1973 Eden Prairie Cooler Report
D. Development Proposals
1. Creekwood - Hustad Development Company
2. Mill Creek
3. Edenvale 6th Addition - Eden Land Corp.
E. Lawcon Grant Program -- Status Report
F. Recommendation to Lease Bryant Lake Park from
Alvin Holasek for 1973 Beach Season
III. DISCUSSIONS
A. Preserve PUD Modifications
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EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
February 12, 1973,, 6;30 p.m. , Village
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Members present: Marvin Erickson, Bill Garens, Steve Eisch, Rita
Kooiman, Frances Blacklock, Janet Berkland, Dick
Anderson, Marty lessen, Director of Parks and Recreation,
Jan Studley, Recreation Intern, and Dick Putnam, Village
Planner.
Members absent: Dean Holasek, Terry Fields, Marge O'Ryan.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Marvin Erickson.
I. Minutes of January 22 , 1973, meeting.
M/Garens, S/Berkland to approve the minutes of the January 22, 1973,
meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
II. Recommendations and_Renorts.
A. $g�USY.1 a1&0U.RUQpt- None.
B. 192LWi,I}t, ,$p�in_g3ag-red t_Lon R ep ort:
lessen distributed copies of the 1973 Winter-Spring Recreation
Program Report which indicated a substantial decrease in program
participation as compared to the 1972 Fall-Winter Recreation Program.
Garens expressed his opinion that the programs, particularly the boys
and girls recreation clubs,were extremely good programs and had been
very successful and popular in the fall of 1972 and suggested that
those same programs be offered again in the fall of 1973. There was
some discussion as to additional documentation of why the programs
failed. A questionnaire to past participants will be considered to find
out their reasoning for not continuing in the program.
Bob Engstrom mentioned the very successful soccer program that he
has been involved with in South Minneapolis, and indicated that if
Eden Prairie was interested, they would be happy to coordinate league
planning with Eden Prairie in 1973. No action taken.
C. 19.Z3LW_R_PS,1'L Cooler Report;
lessen distributed copies of the 1973 Eden Prairie Cooler Report,
indicating that the Cooler will be held either the last week in M�irch
or the early part of April. (Copy of report attached) No action taken.
D. Dgyelopment Proposals_
1. Creekwood Estates-Hustad Development Corporation.
Bill Bonner reviewed the site and planning considerations for the
Creekwood Estates project. He indicated that they felt this was
an extremely desirable site for development in Eden Prairie because
most of the calls they are receiving from prospective buyers are
for houses in the $40-50,000 range on a wooded lot. Hustad
Development Corporation will build most of the houses in this
project, but will also sell some lots to private builders or private
citizens who will then have their own homes built. '
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Bonner reviewed the creek dedication near Creek Knoll Road on the
west and north part of this Creekwood Estates project. He talked
about the rather distinct ridge which falls away from the Creekwood
project and to the creek very steeply. Bonner further talked about
the low area on the north and east side of the Creekwood Estates
project, indicating that ITustad Development Corporation was
presently doing some further study on that area trying to accomplish
some plan other than the one indicated, which brings the road down
the steep slope and cul-de-sacs down in the low area, thus
requiring the filling of that entire section of their property. He
requested that they be given additional time to consider the alterna-
tives in this area, to work with adjacent land owners, and come
back with a subsequent plan to develop that portionof their project.
Blacklock asked about play space within the project and suggested
that the northwest area -- the low area -- was the most suitable
for this purpose. Garens confirmed her statement about play space
in this area and also reaffirmed the need for additional study in the
northeast area at this time.
Blacklock pointed out that the creek dedication as shown on the
Creekwood Estates project was inconsistent with the Parks and
Recreation Commission's accepted policy of 100 ft. of public
dedication from the center of any creek in Eden Prairie. She
suggested that we need to proceed quickly in developing specific
guidelines and policies which will prevent future problems. She
further stated that the top of the bluff, as in the Creekwood Estates
proposal, is usually the natural boundary for the creek which would
serve the best interest of the public for park purposes and that the
100 feet was generally rather arbitrary and did not always accom-
plish the public purpose.
Blacklock asked as to what type of fencing or clear public/private
boundary was going to be included in this plan, She suggested that
some natural barrier be established in this area to make it very
clear to the public and to the private land owners where the public
was entitled to make use of the land.
Action Taken: M/Garens, S/Erickson that the Parks and Recreation
CCommission recommend approval of the Creekwood Estates proposal,
deleting lots 12 through 1S of Block 1 until other development
alternatives are studied further, that the orange line "park area"
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be dedicated to the Village for creek trailway and preservation
purposes, and that the north boundary and the northeast corner
of the Creekwood Estates area be considered at a later date .
Carried unanimously.
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2. Mil; Creek - Hustad Development Corporation.
Bill Bonner from Hustad Development Corporation reviewed the
Mill Creek development proposal. The plan calls for a townhouse
development between Purgatory Creek and the manmade lake and E
a condominium apartment project between the manmade lake and
Homeward Hills Road. He reviewed briefly the proposal to dedicate
to the Village SO ft. adjacent to the creek for public use and to
provide a scenic casement on an additional area adjacent to that
to be maintained by the homeowners association. He indicated
that this was their proposal and was subject to consideration by
the Parks and Recreation Commission and the Village Council.
He talked briefly about the drainageway from the creek back to
the: manmade lake area in the center of the project. He indicated
that this might be a public or quasi-public trailway providing
access to Purgatory Creek as well as access the other way to the
manmade lake. Bonner stated that the lake would be some four
or five acres in size with a depth of no more than five feet. He
indicated that part of: the lake might be used for more active
activity, such as ice skating in the winter, etc. whereas the
majority of it would be essentially a wildlife habitat.
Mr. Hustad indicated that the swimming pool and other common
facilities in this proposal would probably be owned by the town-
house homeowners association and leased to the condominium
• owners because of certain legal complications in the condominium
law in Minnesota.
Cues'*ion was raised as to availibility of active play space for
redidents of this project. Mr. Bonner indicated that a play space
could be incorporated within the townhouse proposal and also
wichin the condominium apartment proposal in the vicinity of the
inanmade lake. Jessen stated that potential elementary school
park sites in this pact of Wan Prairie were "lose by to the south
and west of the Mill Creek Site.
Mr. Bonner requested that the narks and Recreation Commission
Cconsider concept approval on the•overall Mill Creek plan, consider
granting final apF^oval o, the townhouse portion of it with con-
sideration of creekway ownership and active play spaces at,the
next meeting.
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Action Taken: M/Berkland, S/Garens that the Parks and
Recreation Commission recommend to the Council and Planning
Commission approval of the Mill Creek proposal, .pending addi-
tional study and action at the next meeting on the details of
creek ownership and the need for internal recreation systems
on the site. Carried unanimously.
3. Edenvale 6th Addition-Eden Land Corporation.
Commissioner Garens reviewed the Eden Land proposal in the area
of the Edenvale 6th Addition. He stated that whereas Eden Prairie
was formerly very north-oriented toward the Hopkins-Minnetonka
area, that it will in fact soon be south-oriented because of new
development in Edenvale and along State Highway 5 and the Major
Center Area. Because of this consideration, Garens stated that
he fel-,. the traffic volumes on the Kingston Drive extension would
not be great to the north, but would in fact serve as a major route
to access to major roads to the south. Garens further reviewed
potential for trails or pathways connecting the Edenvale 6th
Addition and the Kings Forest/Forest Knolls area with the existing
Forest Hills Elementary School park. He stated that he and Mary
Erickson would not be adverse to granting an easement across
their property at the end of Castle Lane and then connecting to
Rosemary Road as a pedestrian access to the school park area.
Action Taken: M/Berk-land, S/Erickson that the Parks and
Recreation Commission recommend to the Council and Planning
Commission that Edenvale 6th Addition be approved with:
(a) two internal play areas as outlined in Dick Putnam's memo,
(b) two trail connections to the north - one along the golf
course and west of Kingston Drive, the second through the
Castle Lane cul-de-sac across the G are ns•-Erickson-
Ziminski property if possible to Rosemary Road,
(c) the Kingston Drive connection with appropriate stop sign
be included in this plan, and
(d) that the 66th Street es-tension pass the school park should
be implemented at a later date.
Carried unanimously.
4. Basswoods, site U.
Don Hess from the Preserve reviewed the revised Basswoods site
d2 which responded to the dark' aad.Recreation Commission's action
at their last meeting of relocating the buildings on the site. Garens
stated that he felt the western building was a real improvement
as it got substantially out of the basswoods forest, whereas he
felt that the east building could perhaps have incorporated a right
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angle turn in the building in an effort to get further out of the
woods.
Action Taken: None. The general consensus of the Commission
was that the plan was vastly improved but they wanted to have
some further staff consideration of the proposal before taking I
final action.
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This item was tabled until the next meeting pending a more complete
report.
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F. Recommendation io lease Bryant Lake Park from Alvin Holapg for the— I
1973 beach season:
lessen presented a report dated February 12, 1973 , recommending that
the Village again try to leasa the Rock Isle Park area from Alvin
Holasek in 1973 (copy of report attached).
Action Taken: M/Bloaklock, S/Erickson that the Parks and Recreation
Commission recommend to the Council that the Village lease Bryant
Lake Park for 1973 as per the report dated February 12 , 1973 .
Carried unanimously.
III. Discussions.
A. Preserve P.U.D. M_ odif.icatio_ns:
Jessen introduced Do_n Hess, the new planner for The Preserve. Mr.
Hess reviewed some proposed changes in The Preserve P.U.D. relative
to the relationships of land uses around the school park site and the
alignment of the North/South Parkway road through The Preserve.
Hess suggested that the North/South Parkway be realigned westerly
froin its present location so tha' it would not divide that part of The
Preserve , thus making it necessary to provide grade separation,
crossings to the school, and also a very real physical barrier for any
people wishing to use the public facilities in that area. In place of
the North/South Parkway, there would be a minor collector road
serving the neighborhood and the schriol park and there would be more
emphasis on internal greenway systems providing riedestrian access to
that area. This would serve to proanato the school park as the center
of a walking neighborhood and also would provide the potential for
people to walk from any part of The Preservs:-� up through this area to
Cthe Major Center Area.
Hess also reviewed the proposed revision to The Preserve's P.U.D.
relative to the relocation of The Preserve recreation center at Neill
Lake. The revised plan includes moving the recreation center from
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the north shore of the lake to the northeasterly portion of the lake
in the vicinity of the existing Saunders farmstead. This will
accomplish two things: it will crente a "public" link between the
school park, the proposed ncumBnical center, and The Preserve
recreation center. This will provide for better pedestrian connection
between the: three facilities and make coordinated use of these
.facilities much easier.
Ness stated that The Preserve modifications are now in the Talking
s-cage, thut. he will continue to work with the Village staff and get
their inPLO: into this nrocecs and would appear again al: lai,e:r Parks
and Recrecicion Comm'ssi(..)�. rneeti-nU to discuss they plan in greater
detail after sornc. of the edges and final Sb5f)es become more easily
'Afiried,
Acti.on Taken: None , Tae. -:ommiss:.on generally concurred with the
propose-il mo%iiiicaLions parading further review, after additional study
is conipl.eted on the project.
It was moved. by Garens, seconded by Barkland that: the meeting i-)e adjourned.
�. Carried unanimously,
Respectfully submitted,
Marty Jessen, Director of Parks and Recreation
AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Monday, February 26, 1973 6:30 P.M. Village Hall
ROLL CALL
I. MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 12, 1973 MEETING
II. ORGANI7_ATION
A. E1 ection• of Officers
1. Chairman
2. Vice-Chairman
3. Secretary
B. Task Force Appointments
1. Mini-Bike Areas
2. Park System Planning
III, RECO14MENDATIONS AND REPORTS
A. Agency Liaison Reports.
B. Preserve School/Park Site Review. _
C. major Center Task Force - Environment Sub-Committee Progress
Report.
D. Park Bond Fund Status Report - Land Acquisition and Grant Program
Status Report.
E. Purga•tory Creek Park Planning Proposal - "Joint Venture With
Watershed District".
F. Nine-Mile Creek Watershed District Bryant Lake Water ,Quality
Analysis.
G. Development Proposals:
1. Mill Creek - t;ustad Development Corporation
2. Basswoods - Bark Z. Jones in The Preserve
IV. DISCUSSIONS
A. Discussion of Metro Open Space Guide Chapter and proposed legislative
proposal.
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EDEN PRAIRIE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION 11EETING
Monday, February ?_G, 1973 6:30 P.H., Village Hall
Members Present: Marvin Erickson, Jan Berkland, Dick Anderson, Rita
Kooiman, Frances Blacklock, Narty Jessen, Park and
Recreation Director.
Members Absent: bean Holasek, Terry Fields, Marge O'Ryan, Bill Garens,
Steve Eisch, Roger Boerger.
The meeting was called to order by chairman, Marvin Erickson.
I. MINUTES
It was motioned by Blacklock and seconded by Berkland to approve the
minutes of the February 12, 1973 meeting. Motion carried.
II, ORGANIZATION
A. Election of Officers.
Tabled until the next meeting.
B. Task Force Appointments.
Chairman Erickson appointed 'Rita Kooiman,. Roger Boerger, and himself
to the Mini-Bike Areas Task Force and reappointed Bill Garens, Dick
Anderson and Jan Berkland to the Park Planning Task Force.
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III. RECOMiENDATIONS AND REPORTS.
A. Agency Liaison Reports. ¢
Blacklock presented information that she'd received from the Metropolitan
Open Space Information Project. She stated that the main objective of
the project was to get citizen support for designating and implementing
open space in the seven county metropolitan area. Support for this pro-
cess will be organized oil a count; basis. There is a March 17th
workshop to involve people in the project with a two day retreat
planned later to inventory and designate areas.
B. Preserve School Park Site Review.
Jessen presented the revised plan as prepared by The Preserve. Brief
discussion followed about the potential for the school district and
the ecumenical center to share parking. The consensus of the Park and
Recreation Commission was that the sharing of the parking was a desirable
objective in the site plan to minimize the total parking area required
for the tiro facilities. Some discussion also occured concerning the
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boundaries of the park and the relationship of the park to the Anderson
Lakes Nature Area. Jessen stated that lie was working with the Hennepin
County Park Reserve District Wildlife Management and Interpretive
Services staff to prepare a program for the development of the Anderson
Lakes Park Area which would maximize the wildlife habitat potential of
the site. At that time the relationship to the school could be more
closely determined.
C. Iiajor Center Task Force Environment Sub-Committee Report.
Jessen reviewed the wort; of the Hajor Center Task Force to date in the
areas of transportation, land use, fiscal , and environmental concerns.
He stated that the environment sub-committee was charged with developing
a program for protecting the natural resource features of the Major
Center Area. He indicated that this process would include delineation
of various development standards for the rest of the area and •imple-
mentation programs for public open space acquisition in the Major Center
Area. No action required.
D. Park Bond Fund Status Report - Land Acquisition and Grant Program_
Status Report.
Jessen reviewed the reports presented to the Commission. Copies
attached to the minutes. No action required.
E. Purgatory Creek Park Planning Proposal -_Joint Venture With the
Watershed District.
Jessen stated that the Riley-Purgatory Creek Watershed District had
allocated up to $5,000 to participate with the Village in an open
space plan for the Purgatory Creek area in Eden Prairie. He reviewed
the joint venture proposal for open space planning along Purgatory
Creek as presented to the Commission and then reviewed a specific
"scope 'of services" proposal from Brauer and Assocaites.
H/Anderson, S/Gerkland that the Park and Recreation Commission
recommend to the Council an expenditure of $14,900 for the study
and planning of the Purgatory Creek area. One-half or $5,000 of
this amount, which ever the ldatershed District Board of" Hanagers agree
to, is to be paid by the Riley-Purgatory Creek Watershed District.
Motion carried unanimously.
F. Nine-Mile Creek Watershed District - Bryant Lake plater Quality Analysis.
Jessen reviewed the request from residents of Bryant Lake to consider
the discoloration and odor of Bryant Lake as noticed this winter.
He stated that he had contacted the Minnesota Department of Natural
C Resources and the Nine-tile Creek l4atershed District Engineer in an
attempt to gather some information as to what was creating this problem.
No good documentation exists at this time either from the Watershed
District or from the State. As a result, Eden Prairie has prepared
a prL-1iminary request to the Nine-Mile Creek Watershed District Board
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of i•9anagers for a water quality analysis study of Bryant La1ce and
Nine-Mile Creek in Eden Prairie. The Watershed District has previously
allociated money for this purpose and has tried to involve the Village
financially in the study. In the past Eden Prairie has not been willing
to participate in a study of this type, however, due to the timeliness
of the acquisition of the Bryant Lake Park area and the concern on
behalf of the residents for the lake quality, it seems appropriate
to proceed at this time. Tile Nine-Mile Creek Watershed District
Engineer has been directed by the Board of Managers to work with
Jessen in drawing up a proposal for consideration at their next
meeting which would outline the scope of the study in the Bryant Lake-
Nine-11i1e Creek Area. The Watershed District indicated that they
would probably contact the Village of Eden Prairie requesting par-
ticipation in financing this study. Jessen stated that he would
report at a subsequent Commission meeting on the progress of this
particular project. ido action required.
G. Development Proposals.
1. Mill Creek - Hustad Development Corporation.
Bill Bonner and Bob Engstrom briefly reviewed again the plan for
Mill Creek along Purgatory Creek just south of County Road 1.
The plan indicated a public open space dedication of 50 feet
adjacent to the creek and the creation of an easement protecting
the rest of the area from incroachment by buildings or development
from the Home-Owners Association. Hr. Engstrom offered an
alternative to this plan which would be the dedication of all
land up to the 790 contour for public ownership and use, and then
a scenic easement on the remaining area to the top of tiie slope.
M/Blacklock, S/Anderson that the Park and Recreation Commission
recommend to the Planning Commission and Council the approval of
the Mill Creel; proposal with the modification indicated above
(the dedication to the public of all land to the 790 contour with
the scenic easement adjacent to it). Motion carried unanimously.
2. Basswoods Proposal by Mark Z. Jones in The Preserve.
Jessen reviewed the third revision of the Basswoods proposal
which moved the eastern building an additional 30 feet out of
the woods as per Park and Recreation Commission consideration
at the last meeting.
fl/Berkland, S/Anderson that the Park and Recreation Commission
recommend approval of tiie Basswoods proposal to the Planning Com-
mission and the Council with this revision. Notion carried
unanimously.
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iV. DISCUSSIONS
A. Discussion of is tro Open Space Guide Chapter and Proposed Legislative_
Program.
Jessen reviewed with the Commission and Wolf Penzel from the Village
Council the proposed Open Space Chapter for the Metropolitan Council
Development Guide. He pointed out the areas of concern in protection
open space and that the development of this part of the plan and tools
for implementing it would help municipalities in protecting key natural
resource features from encroachment by development. In the recreation
open space section of the proposed guide, lie reviewed the classification
system as developed by the recreation open space task force and also
reviewed the implementation responsibilities by the various levels
of government. He stated that Counties and special districts would
be primarily responsible for providing regional park facilities
including park reserves, large recreation parks and major linear parks.
Municipalities would be primarily responsible for the provision of
local facilities such as neighborhood playgrounds and community parks
and play fields, as well as linear parks of a local nature, plus special
use and historic parks with local significance.
Jessen stated that the Metropolitan Council had developed a bill for
consideration by the legislature which would create a $30,000,000
bond issue to be used by counties and special park districts in im-
plementing the regional part; facilities of the open space plan. While
the provision of regional recreation open space facilities is certainly
high priority, he also stated that the need to provide facilities of
local significance was great and that recent administrative action in
Washington, D.C. freezing HUD funds and greatly reducing LAWCON funds
for the next year would have a very detrimental effect on meeting the
total recreation open space needs of the metropolitan area.
Jessen recommended that the Park and Recreation Commission and Village
Council prepare a position statement for the public hearing on the open
space guide chapter that would indicate our concern for the need for
assistance funding for projects of local significance as determined in
the Metropolitan Recreation Open Space System Plan.
M/Anderson, S/Erickson that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend
to the Council that the Village approve this position. Motion carried
unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
N/Anderson, S/Erickson that the meeting be adjourned.