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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 01/22/1973 i 1973 jANUARY 8 , 22 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION Monday, January 8, 1973 6:30 p.m. Village Hall a ROLL CALL I. MINUTES OF DECEMBER 11, 1972 MEETING MINUTES OF DECEMBER 27, 1972 MEETING II. PETITIONS, REQUESTS,AIM COMMUNICATIONS A. Request for information about 4-F lands for proposed highway development -- from Howard, Neddles, Tammen, and Bergendorf. B. Open space system maps for League of Women Voters meetings. IPA C. Tax Equalization Information Meeting - January 10, 1973 7:30 p.m., Village Hall. III. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Agency Liaison Reports i B. Cormmn ty Education Final Report i C. Floodplain Ordinance Report D. Winter-Spring Recreation Program Report n E. Nine-Mile Creek Trail Report i F. Development Proposals i C1. Creekwood-Hustad Development Company i i EDEN PRAIRIE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING Monday, January 8, 1973 6:30 P.P1. Village It. Members Present: Harvin Erickson, Gill Garens, Dean Holasek, John Cosmano, Janet Cerkland, Frances Glacklock, Dick Anderson, Harty Jessen, Parr. and Recreation Director, and Janet Studley, Recreation Intern. Viembers Absent: Terry Fields, Rita Kooiman, and Marge O'Rtyan. The meeting was called to order by the Chairman. I. Minutes M/Garens, S/Ilolaselc to approve the minutes of the December 11, 1972 meeting. Carried. M/Cosmano, S/Ilolasq to approve the minutes of the December 27, 1972 special meeting. Carried. II. Petitions, Requests, and Communications A. Jessen reported on the requests for information about 4-F lands for proposed highway development from Howard, Neddles, Tammen, / and Qergendorf. 1� Garens raised a question as to the definition of the term "4-F lands." Jessen replied that "4-F lands" is a category of land used in Federal Environmental Impact Revenue to represent open space lands and those where construction is difficult because of physical and/or historical features. Jessen stated that the 4-lands in this case are the Purgatory Creel; area, and High School area, the Riley Creek area, and the P-larsh at the North end of Red Rock Lake. These areas are needed for underpasses. Glacklock questioned how they could possibly go through the school area without wrecking it. Anderson questioned the future of the intersection of State Highway #5 and Highway 212, specifically how this will affect the rest of the Eden Prairie area. This was discussed and the general concensus was that all the plans must be looked at in a long range perspective. Anderson suggested that a request be made to see :all the long range metropolitan area plans: However, Jessen replied that at this point Eden Prairies task was not approving anything -- but simply to provide information as to the description of the important features of these areas. D. Jessen distributed copies of the open space system maps given to the League of Women Voters. i Eden Prairie Park and Recreation Commission January 8. 1973 Page Two C. Jessen reminded the Commission that the Tax Equalization Information fleeting concerning the Fiscal Disparities Bill (commonly called the Weaver Bill ) which was originally scheduled for January 3, 1973 was postponed as a result of the inclement weather. It is rescheduled for January 10, 1973, at 7:30 P.M. , Village Hall . Jessen announced that the invitation. to the Commission to attend this meeting was still good, and he encouraged the members to do so. III. Recommendations and Reports A. Agency Liason Reports. ' Jessen reported on the status of the Lawcon applications. Garens questioned whether the Village had received Lawcon money for the Bryant Lake Project. Jessen reported that the money had not been received. Garens raised a question as to how this would affect our option. Jessen replied that the cost of the land would increase by an amount equal to taxes payable in 1973. Anderson questioned what steps we could take to improve this situation. Jessen replied that letters would be written to our congressmen and senators. Blacklock questioned whether Lawcon positions had been filled and that only top positions in Washington had new people while the Ann Arbor office had apparently remained in tact. B. Community Education Final Rye or Jessen referred the Commission ion to the Job Description, Task Force Report, Progress Report, and Compensation Information concerning the position of Community Education Coordinator. Jessen discussed the final candidate selected for this position. Jessen explained that this person would be an employee of the School District, that he would get a two week vacation per year rather than the standard vacation schedule for teachers, but would be officed at the Village Hal I . Jessen mentioned that his salary would be $10,800 and that this is not a great increase from the from the candidate's present salary so the money does not seem to be the candidate's primary incentive for the job. Jessen also mentioned that the candidate was very well recommended. Blacklock questioned the Village's role in paying this position's salary. Jessen replied that the Village pays half and the School District pays the other half. There was some discussion as to how this program's set up compared with that of other communities. M/Garens, S/Holasek, that the Park and Recreation Commission C recommend to the Council that they implement the program as recommended by the Task Force. Carried. i 1 Eden Prairie Park and Recreation Commission January 8, 1973 Page Three C. Flood lain Ordinance Report Jessen reported tat the Village attorney was still researching various facets of the proposed ordinance and therefore the Council would not receive it for another 2 weeks. D. Uinter-Spring Recreation Program Report. Jessen reported that the Winter-Spring recreation program is in its final stages, and is currently at the prin' ers. lessen informed the Commission that Reed Olson will soon be leaving the department to go into another field. Garens questioned the fact that bussing was dropped from the program. Jessen replied that the reasons for this are two-fold, (1) financially the bussing made the program too expensive for the participants, and (2) the bussing caused many problems public relations-wise in that the younger children would often take the wrong bus home, etc. Jessen also reported on some of the programs offered through the Adult Education Winter-Spring Program. E. Nine-Mile Creek Trail Report. Jessen reported that the plan which the Park and Recreation Commission approved some time ago is now, finally, being put into action. Garens questioned whether or not the need to survey the land was worth the money. Jessen explained that the survey is required by law in order to provide proper descriptions for the land to protect both the Village and adjoining property owners. M/Anderson, S/Blacklock, that the Parks and Recreation Commission recommend to the Council that they accept the land donated by I4SP and allocate the money necessary for surveying and the naturalist study, and that the Commission's appreciation be expressed to NSP. Carried. F. Development Proposals. s. 1. ree woo - ucf FI stad Development Company. Jessen reported that Bill Bonner and he will agree to and field stake a line at the top of the bluff for the park boundary in a this area. Jessen also reported that the requested that Bill Bonner bring in their overall plan. Jessen requested that the Commission wait on the presentation until they have had an opportunity to walk the area. Jessen added that the rest of the plan seemed acceptable. 2. Basswoods. Jessen presented the drawings of the Basswoods area to the Commission. Holasek suggested aerial photos so that it would be more apparent as to which trees are actually to be removed. l Eden Prairie Park and Recreation Commission January 8, 1973 Page Four The general concensus of the Commission was that many more trees were being removed than they had originally proposed. (Specifically drawing d2 - the 66 unit apartment complex,) and that the plan was not acceptable as presented. Jessen suggested that this projected by reviewed further at the next meeting following appropriate revisions by the development. IV. Other Business. Jessen suggested that the Park and Recreation Commission establish regularly scheduled twice a month meeting as provided for in the Park and Recreation Ordinance. M/Garens, S/Erickson, that the Park and Recreation Commission meet on the 2nd and 4th i9ondays of each month at 6:30 P.P4. until daylight savings time when they will change the meeting time to 7:30 P.M. Carried. M/Garens, S/Blacklock, that the meeting be adjourned. Carried. John Cosmano announced that this would be his last meeting as a member of the Park and Recreation Commission as he is moving to Rochester, New York. ( EDEN PRAIRIE PARK AND RECREATIOM COMMISSION MEETING Monday, January 22, 1973 E:30 P.M. Village Hall Members Present: Marvin Erickson, Bill Garens, Steve Eisch, Rita Kooiman, Frances Blacklock, Janet Berkland, Dick Anderson, Marty Jessen, Park and Recreation j Director, Janet Studley, Recreation Intern, and j Dick Putnam, Village Planner. Members Absent: Dean Holasek, Terry Fields, and Marge O'Ryan The meeting was called to order by the Chairman, Marvin Erickson. I. Minutes 14. Garens, S. Berkland to approve the minutes of the January 8, 1973 meeting. Carried. II. Petitions, Requests, and Communications A. Jessen announced a meeting to be held at 1:00 p.m., February 3, 1973 at the Hustad residence. This is a joint meeting for the Park and Recreation Commission, the Planning Commission, and the Village Council. This will give the members of these groups an opportunity to discuss the planning aspects of The Bluffs projects. Jessen requested that the members notify him if they are planning to attend this meeting. B. Jessen requested that Item B on the agenda, the Andrew Daniluk petition concerning the Eden Farms proposal by Shelter Homes Corp., be deferred until later in the meeting when Mr. Daniluk arrives. C. (Not on Agenda). Jessen announced that there will be a symposium on Environmental Legislation on February 3, 1973 from 8:45 - 5:00 p.m. III. Recommendations and Reports A. Agency Liason Reports. Blacklock questioned the outcome of the Tax Equalization Infor- mation Meeting January 3, 1973 concerning the Fiscal Disparities Bill. Berkland replied that she and Cosmano attended the meeting. It appears that Eden Prairie will come out on the short end of the stick no matter how you look at it. Garens stated that the Village of Burnsville is fighting the bill in court on the grounds that it is unconstitutional ( (taxation without representation). Jessen stated that theoretically the bill is good, however, as it stands there are too many problems which must be worked out. • Vk r .. PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEEMIG January 22, 1973 C Page 2 B. Uinter-Spring Recreation Progress Report The commission received an up to date report of the progress of the registration for the winter-spring recreation program. Studley pointed out that it is still quite early to determine the success of the registrations, as the last day to register is not until February 1 , 1973. Commission members also received a brochure for the new Teen Special Trip program. Jessen explained that even though the first scheduled trip (Ski Trip to Afton Alps) had to be post- poned because of the unseasonably warm weather, the high school and middle school students seem to be excited about it. Also, Jessen reported that several parents had called giving their support of the program. C. Development Proposals 1. Basswoods - earl; Jones. Jessen referred the Commission to the drawings of the Basswoods Projects and also to the written report by Jessen to the Commission on this subject. Jessen mentioned that the buildings on the second site, site b, are much smaller than that on site d2, and therefore can be more easily moved around. The placement of these buildings can be done in such a way as to have minimum impact on the virgin maple/basswoods forest. Jessen also stated that they can be moved around to preserve the more valuable trees. Garens questioned the density of these units. Jessen replied that the density is about 14 h units per acre, however, the density in this case is not the problem. The problem is the placement of the buildings. Blacklock questioned whether there are trails going down to the lake planned. Jessen answered that there are not any on this plan. N. Garens, S. Erickson, that the Park and Recreation Commission recommend to the Council and Planning Commission that site b of the Basswoods Project be approved as presented. Carried. II B. Andrew Daniluk Petition (Continued) Putnam presented slides to help familiarize the members of the commission with the area in question. Putnam explained to the members that one of the reasons this problem was referred back to the Park and Recreation Commission ( was that they must consider whether they want the 60 acres on the northern half of the property above the creek to be totally public, quasi-public, or totally private. PARK & RECREATION C01111ISSION MEETING January 22, 1973 Page 3 Putnam pointed out and explained the recommendations of the Planning Commission by using maps of the area. Anderson questioned the extent of the sewer easement in this area. Jessen replied that the easement is undoubtedly just for underground use, -not pedestrian use. Putnam stated that the Shelter Homes Corp. has proven itself to be quite agreeable to any reasonable suggestions. Daniluk presented the petition and explained that the full Presentation would be given to the Village Council Tuesday night, January 23, 1973. Daniluk explained that the residents of the Edenview area are requesting that the land in the northeastern area be used exclusively for park land. Jessen briefly explained the Park System Planning Procedure. Garens suggested that the open recreation area which is now used as a skating area be defined not as quasi public land, but rather as public land. Daniluk also expressed concern about the public access across the cluster area to the high knoll. 11. Qerkland, S. Erickson, that the knoll area and the pond area be recommended to the Council & Planning Commission for designation as public open space rather than quasi-public. Carried. III. Q Creekwood - tabled until next meeting. III. C Development Proposals 3. Anderson Lakes PUD Jessen reviewed a report on the Anderson Lakes Park History, intended uses, planning to date, etc. (copy on file). Wost of the Commissioners vialked this area and the Eren's bloods area on the North Shore of Anderson Lakes on Sunday before the meeting.) M/Anderson, S/Garens that the Commission recommend granting of concept approval for Anderson Lakes PUD and that the Village solicit funding for the 61+ Acres on the North Shore of Anderson Lakes as per the report. Carried. H/Garens, S/Erickson, that the meeting be adjourned. Carried. C