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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 10/18/1972 1972 OCTOBER 18 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE I EDEN PRAIRIE PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING October 18, 1972 7:30 p.m. Eden Prairie Village Hall Present: Marvin Erickson, William Garens, Richard Anderson, Frances Blacklock, Rita Kooiman; Marty Jessen, Dick Putnam, Reed Olson, representatives of Ecklund-Swedlund and The Preserve. Absent: Janet Berkland, John Cosmano, Terry Fields, Dean Holasek, Bob Johnson, Marge O'Ryan I. Minutes Due to a lack of a quorum, the minutes of September 25 were not brought up for approval. II. Petitions, Requests and Communications A. 1972 MRPA Annual Conference Jessen went over highlights of the Conference to be held at the Pick-Nicollet Hotel Nov. 8,9 and 10, explaining that all commission members are members of the MRPA and that fees for attending the Conference will be taken care of by the village. Reservation forms are to be filled out and sent to Jessen. Programs the first two days are especially good for Commission members. Jessen is chairman of the Conference. III. Recommendations and. Reports A. Agency Liaison Reports - None B. Development Proposals C1. Hirsch Development --- The Preserve Putnam described alternatives possible in putting "Urban Pathway" connecting Anderson and Neill lakes trailways:through the developments 1. Underpass, which would mean dropping down almost immediate7,y after a major road underpass. 2. Re-alignment of pathway, but terrain would make it undesirable. 3. Crossing of the pathway with two private "driveway streets" with the following treatment paid by the developer ,ai a two streets would be 150 feet apart. Where they intersected- a path there would be rippling of the road on either side of the path and change in road surface texture on path to slow down cars. On the 4-foot asphalt path there would be plantings6 and posts in path to wsrn cyclists and slow them down. Between the roads would be a plaza type area with fountain, lamps, telephonebooth, benches etc. a possibility. There would be 30 units on one road, 26 on the other, and neither would be "thrull streets. There would be "Stop" or "Yield" signs placed where deemed advisable. Concensus of the Commission was that the .latter idea seemed workable, but that it wants to see the final plan before approval with the plan for how the crosswalk will be handled spelled out speoifioally. Garens said he doesn't Like it but wants to see the final plan. E.P. Pk. and Rea. Ccamn. Mtg. Oct. 18, 1972 Page 2 B. Development proposals contd. 2. Hidden Ponds --- Ecklund - Swedlund This development plan has been referred to the Park and Recreation Commission for comments by the Planning and Zoning Comission. Dick Knutson, site planner for Ecklund-Swedlund presented the proposal. He said they wanted reaction to a private park system. This is not a PUD tqt single family development of 150 acres with a parkway system. They plan seven ponds to be dredged and part of a storm sewer system with continuous flowage (a well to maintain when necessary); series of bridges, tennis court and ballfield and internal parkways privately maintained by homeowners assn. There were several questions: Would tennis courts and ba]lfields be available to organized groups of the village like EPAA7 A. No, not type for heavy use. Could public use walkways? A. They connect to streets so can't keep people off. Couldntt the H.O. Assno put up fence to keep public out? A. That could be one of the conditions of approval by village. Anderson objected to the development of a private park across from an area the developer doesntt own. A. This abuts private day camp park. g Putnam said this is a temporary use; they are asking for other uses of the land. Other concerns of the Commission were with regard to routes of the E W and N-S collector streets in the Guide Plan which would go through the dehlBpmenthich the developer wishes to eliminate); and the preceden royal of such plan would set. The plan was accepted for further study and Jessen and Putnam will do further work on plans for the whole area. (Hwy. 212 plans will come up for approval by the and of November.) i 1 3. Basswoods --- The Preserve J George Carter distributed copies of proposal on the way Scenic Easements will be. handled. The original has been referred to E.P.ts legal counsel. i He introduced James Robin, and Dick Schwartz, representing Mark Z. Jones, and Herb Baldwin, an.independent planner employed by The Preserve, and they presented plans for Basswoods, a 76+ acre area on the west shore of Anderson Lakes just north of the proposed Moorings site. They have now 1 moved their plans from the Moorings to Basswoods, and expressed the hope of disturbing the woods as little as possible. They would like to lay roads and sewer and water lines this fall to allow for settling over the winter. The area would have single family homes, multiple homes and townhouses in it. A greenway system of quasi-public paths would connect with the shore trail on the east, the school-park site on the north and Neil Lake Center. There would be two underpasses at major crossings, otherwise ri�vrble strips where the paths are private and vehicle trips per day very low. M/Garens, S/Anderson that the Park and Recreation Commission express a favorable response to the plan as outlined for Basswoods to the Planning and Zoning Commission, providing the proposal for Scenic Easements meets with approval from the E.P. legal counsel. Carried. E.P. Pk. and Rea. Carom. Mtg. Oct. 18, 1972 Page 3 B. Development Proposal contd. 4. Olympic Hills PUD Putnam went over plat drawings for this development. Several shortcomings in the plans were expressed: pooxccoordination with with the existing golf course; questionable placement of roads considering the terrain; the density of housing and location of some housing on the flood plain; lack of public park dedication; and poor placement of recreational facilities in relationship to the housing. C. Report on presentation to Riley-Purgatory Creek Watershed District Board i of Managers Anderson said he had been called in to go over the entire E.P. trail blare -- that R-P Watershed Dist. Mgrs. needed to know where our trails would go. A few days later a loose presentation to the Mgrs. was drawn up and presented to share thinking and perhaps get their financial help for the mutual benefit of both the village and district. A joint study could cost between $7 and 20 thousand. It was recommended that a proposal be written by the E.P. staff on how E.P. and the R-P Watershed district can work jointly in planning and development of open space, flood plain, erasing control and funding of development plans. It was thought Jessen could coordinate special consultants and possibly intern students from the U. of M. to take inventory and determine priorites. M/Erickson, S/Garens that the Trailway Committee draw up a proposal witri the help of the village staff to present to the Watershed District November 1. Carried. (A meeting was set for Monday, Oct. 23, 3:30) D. 1972 Fall Winter Recreation Report (On file) Reed Olson distributed copies of the report and discussed the regis- tration, personnel and progress of programs. Oct. 27 the Girls and Boys Rea Club will have a Hallowelen party at Forest Hills gym from 7 - 9- Jessen mentioned that a secodnd quarter intern is now working with the Pk. and Rea. Dept., Dan Schmidt. He has been assigned historical sites as background material for a HUD historical grant. Anderson mentioned that he thought it would be a good idea for the Park and Rea. Dept. to have ideas for the use of liquor store Hinds in the eventuality that E.P. has a liquor store in the future, before other uses take priority. E. Minnetonka Schools Community Education Program Jessen said we had been assessed for part of this program which seemed to offer no new service to the community but rather a duplication of what the pk. and rec. dept. was offering in Mtka. and Hopkins. No prior communication had been made with Rea. deptsl of any of the commun- ities. Jessen said he felt the plan was poorly structured and thought out. The consensus was that no money would be sent on the basis of the note. E.P. Pk. and Rae. Comm. Mtg. Oct. 18, 1972 Page 4 It was suggested that future Park and. Recreation meetings be held at 6:30 instead of 7:30, except during the summer. There were no objections expressed and so the recommendation stands. The meeting was ad urned. Frances Hl.acklock, Secretary