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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 10/09/1967 rr _ r i ti 1 1997 T BER®C ® 9 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE i I c= EDEN PRAIRIE PARK AMID RECREATION caon SSION MEETING October 9, 1967 8s00 p.m. Eden Prairie Village Hall I ` Presents Les Wise, Chairman, Chuck Brace, Dave Osterholt, Harry Picha, Frances Blacklock, Secretary. I : Others: Don Dauer and Bruce Platson of Brauer and Associates, Les Blacklock, Howard Peterson, Mrs. Richard Anderson The meeting was called to order by the Chairman. M/Osterholt, S/Brace that the minutes be approved as printed. Carried. i Budget Dave Osterholt reported that the budget as submitted by the Park and Recreation Commission had been accepted by the Village Council for the year 1968. r Recreation Bill Holte will be asked to give a report on the Summer Recreation Report Program at the Nov. 13 meeting. Fuj. , Eb►-Laws M/Brace, S/Osterholt to amend the $br Laws of the Park and Recreation � Commission, Article II, Sect. 1, to read: The Commission shall most on the second Monday evening of every month at 8 o'clock. Carried. M/Picha, S/Osterholt to amend the By-Laws Article I, Section 2 to read: Officers shall be composed of Chairman, Vice Chairman atd Secretary-Treasurer, Carried. f-- M/Picha, S/Osterholt to amend the Py-laws Article I, Sect. 4, Subdivision W3) to read: The Secretary-Treasurer shall hluadle financial information in regard to the Park and Recreation Commission fund, vested with Ga the Village Treasurer. It shall be the Secretary-Treasurer"s duty to o provide the financial information required for the annual budget estimate presented to the Village Council. The Secretary was asked to type up a revised copy of the By--Laws for approval in November. Don Brauer's Mr. Brauer gave a report on the Section of Ordinance .93 concerning Report Public Sites and Open Space, and Drainagesays. He also presented a Concept for a Village Park Plan for parks as they could fit into a future Eden Prairie. He made a distinction between unique natural areas which should be preserved, neighborhood recreational parks, j and play fields. (See notes attached to minutes for more details.) Special mtg. Commission members voted to hold a special meeting Monday. Oct. 30. M/Brace, S/Picha that the meeting be adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Frances Blacklock. Secretary Next meetings: Oct. 30 and Nov. 13 Seminar dates: Thur:zday, Oct. 26, Nov. 2, 9, 16 M Eden Prairie Park and Recreation Commission meeting Oct. 9, 1967 NOTES from DON BRAUER'S REPORT Natural Resource Study Map of Eden Prairie -- Mr. Brauer presented a map showing by color the various elevations, slopes over 10%, under 10%, bogs and swamps, trees, lakes and existing perks. I Mining -- As mining and pressures for mining are reduced. there is a possi- bility that slopes could remain, but the village will have to work on it every time someone canes in for mining permits. Will have to make it easier, or more economical not to flatten the hills. Ordinance 93 - Drainagawkys If intended to be used for parks, 100 feet isn't enough. The Nine Mile Creek Watershed District is a fact. The orhginal storage, as computed, will have to be maintained. Purgatory and Riley Creeks have no legal watershed district. If they did, decisions would already be made; easement would be taken care of. Bat easements are not public land. POC is actually private land. not for public use. Ordinance 93 - Public Sites and Oxen Space -- 54 dedication of land by developers, as now required in the Ordinance, is not enough land to provide all the parks the village will need. School-park combinations, recreation fields etc. will take much more than 5%. There are 22.000 acres in the village. 40% of the land not yet devel- oped, is yet developable. 5% of that would be 440 acres, a bare minimum required for active recreation space, and not enough for elementary, junior and senior high school re o areas and large acreage parks. Brauer suggests that the E=Fdecide right away to take school park sites out of the dedication. The 5% dedication will only provide play space. A 15-acre school site with a 10 acre park would each overlap about 5 acres. Option of Developer -- Brauer recommends that this be changed so that the village will have the right to refuse dedication of land and take cash, if have plan which can stand up in court. Community resources (parks) should be a community obligation. Cash. received in place of land dedication, should be deposited in a fund for that region of the village, and converted to the purchase of land in that region as soon as possible, otherwise money will not buy as much land as values rise. Flood plain -- These should be maintained in their natural condition, and not try to make all of the land into "park.�� (`- Requirements of developers -- The village should require developers to grade, seed and sod park area along with streets. -curbs etc. The facilities such as play squipa,ent should be supplied by the village. Planning -- The village should plan the parks -- not. the developer. i Eden Prairie Park and Recreation Meeting. Oct. 9, 1967 Brauer Report Notes Page 2 CONCEPT CAP' PARK PLAN Mr. Brauer showed a neap of Eden Prairie divided into eleven regions as dictated by natural and highway boundaries. He advised that unique natural features should be preserved, such as the Minnesota River bottoms from Ft. Snelling through the urban area; the Anderson Lakes area; and all of Purgatcirs Creek and its bottomland. © Brauer suggested that the river bottoms and Anderson Lakes is a regional responsibility to acquire. But he recommends that Purgatory Creek is a "village must" to acquire all of it. He feels that Purgatory Creek offers much more in terms of recreation than Nine Mile or Riley Creeks. d j A sports center is another village-wide recreational possibility. Protected development of village -- The map, divided into eleven regions, showed many possibilities of hour F.P. might develop -- not because a planner predicts or chooses. but because demands and pressures from highways, airport and population N density might cause development patterns. Possible park, school, road commercial and industrial locations were shown on the map as an indica- tion of her the village might develop. C:) School-park Recreation areas -- F.P. is committed to a neighbor- hood school concept where the majority can walk to elementary school; so the organised recreation for neighborhoods should take place at school-park recreation areas. Some of the eleven regions did not have a school site indicated, since most of the region was in another school district, or because the region would be industrial with fear or no children. QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS: Q. - What about a man developing now on Riley Creek? A. - Suggest a dedicated easement. Flood plain studs -- Brauer thinks that for about $5.000 a hydrologist could study creeks so could have sufficient information for guidelines to prevent building in flood plains. Drainage easement -.. Brauer suggests a drainage easement to include 100 feet deded land plus drainage easement of arW additional flood plain. Drainage study could indicate what ponding areas are im- portant to preserve. h U Public access on Purgatory Creek -- He suggests that Ord. 93 u could plan for a streambed park for just Purgatory Creek no the public could hike all the way to the river. Do it right, or forget it. Q. - Is there any area like the hub indicated around, the Hwy. 4+94 inter- change in any other community? A. - Yes; as a result of attrition, at Hwy. 35W and 494. with access at Penn, JF2M etc. There is about 500 acres inside of the circle. vy LA Eden Prairie Park and Recreation meeting, Oct. 9, 1967 Brauer Report Notes, Page 3 Q. - What about the man who owns creek land and does not intend to I develop it? A. - The flood plain easement will not be a problem. For the right of the public to go on the land, however, the village will have to buy it. Parkland is for the purpose of access, so have to awn the land. If Just an easement, can't have access to it. An easement zones the land "flood plain" in effect. The land � still has value, but not as valuable. The development possi- bdlities make it valuable. Hi Id Hills -- These could be preserved if, for instance, 40% of an industrial site were allowed to be occupied in exchange for leaving the hills undeveloped. Planned Development -- Plats for these would be zoned for that particular unit only -.. where homes are clustered more closely than our present half-acre -- with open space in a planned area. This would probably give more than 10% open space. Lake Development Funds -- Brauer suggests that the -Mlage write to Hennepin County Board cf Commissioners explaining that we have commun- ity park project of developing lake. Request requirements. We have park needs now on Birch Island, but in future Staring Lake will have need. County has money available; can get Honey for acquisition purposes. Q. - Supposing our Park Board wanted to prepare plan for bond issue. What could we include? A. - Acquisition of park sites at so much per site; where sites are proposed. subject to change; plus money for creek acquisition and to purchase additional land above 5% dedication. I Q. - Is it possible to zone golf courses so that owners can afford sewer assessments? A. - Village could bW development rights for what the lard is worth. This would reduce the value so taxes would be reduced, to encourage owner to continue running it. Q. - When is land or money conveyed by the developer to the Village? A. - Should be conditional on final plat approval. This is not spelled out in ordinance, but it should be. Q. - Is the Planning and Zoning Commiddion referring plats to Brauer for approval? A. - No. Valuation of School District 272 - $6,000.000 Valuation of Village - $4,800,000 i The meeting ended with a discussion of the four citizens planning seminars being arranged bV Brauer and Associates. The Village expects to pay aror fee requirements.