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JANUARY 31
MINUTES
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, JANUARY 31, 1994 7:00 P. M. CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Richard Brown,
Claire Hilgeman, Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, David
Kracum, Diane Popovich Lynch
STUDENT MEMBER: Mark Bremer
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources; Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape
Architect; Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural
Resources; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation
Services
I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF DECEMBER 21 199
IV. PETITIONS. REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. Grant Hussey Memorial Planting_$gquest
B. Request from Pemtom to Help Fund Trail Construction
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Minnesota Methane LLC
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Staff Recommendation of Market Cent er Design Program Chris Enger
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Presentation of Housing Subcommittee on Affordable-Housing Katherine
Kardell
B. Approval of Architect for Senior Center Renova ion
C. Approval of Engineering Consultant for Riley Ike Park DeveloPmen
C D. Tax Forfeited Lands
E. Resolution Pertaining to the Future Use of the Glen Lake Hennepill County
Property
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VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. I�►rt of Director of Parks. Recreation & Natural Resource
1. Katherine Trost Option Agreement
2. Update on Option Negotiation Process on Natural Resource Sites
B. Reports of Manager of Parks and Natural Resources
1. Review Subsidy of.Maintenance Cost & Schedule Limitations for
Tournaments at City Facilities
IX. ADJOURNMENT
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EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, JANUARY 31, 1994 7:00 P.M.
8080 Mitchell Road
Council Chambers
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Richard, Chair; Richard Brown, Joanne
Kube-Harderwijk, Claire Hilgeman, David
Kracum and Diane Popovich Lynch
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COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Bruce Bowman
STUDENT MEMBER: Mark Bremer
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks,
Recreation and Natural Resources; Barbara
Penning Cross, Landscape Architect and
Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and
Natural Resources
1. ROLL CALL
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The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chair, Pat Richard. j
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA I
MOTION: Moved by Hilgeman, seconded by Kracum to approve the agenda as
submitted. Motion passed 7-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - DECEMBER 21, 1994
MOTION: Moved by Richard Brown, seconded by David Kracum to approve the
Minutes for December 21, 1994 meeting as submitted. Motion passed 7-0.
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. Grant Hussey Memorial Planting Request
Tadich: Indicated that her neighborhood would like to do a landscaping project
in memorial for Grant Hussey. They would take a triangular area on the corner
of Flesher Circle and Staring Lake Parkway which is in a scenic easement as it
turns into the development. Vegetation to be planted would be low maintenance
and long range growth.
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Lambert: Indicated that this is a deal between the neighbors and the community
and the commission would have no responsibility for the replacement of plants,
etc. Also, this is a unique request since it involves both public and private
property.
Popovich Lynch: Would the damage of plowing, salting, etc. be a liability of
the City?
Hilgeman: What is the Scenic Easement Agreement? It has always been written
that nothing can be added or subtracted in the past - feel uncomfortable.
Lambert: The location should not cause undue damage by plowing. The major
reason for a scenic easement is to prevent removal of vegetation. They have
committed to adding native plant material.
MOTION: Moved by Diane Popovich Lynch, seconded by Pat Richard to
approve the request of dedicating the triangular area on the corner of Fle.:ief
Circle and Staring Lake Parkway as a memorial to Grant Hussey as per the Item
No. VIII.A. dated January 13, 1994.
B. Request from Pemtom to Help Fund Trail Construction
Penning Cross: Indicated that Pemtom is requesting additional compensation to
offset the high cost of trail construction. The developer was required to build a
trail on the side of a slope with a wooded knoll on top and a wetland below. In
order to save the trees and wetland a 2-1/2 by 500 foot wall was to be built. The
cost exceeded $18,000.
Dan Hertz (Pemtom): Indicated that his total cost for park dedication and trail
construction was$700,000 and that the City should pick up the entire cost of the
wall or $36,000. With the trail behind the houses, this significantly reduces the
value of the property.
Brown: With the costs that are incurred, would these costs be attached to the
owners of the property? Do you see any problems with the retaining wall? Is it
a first-class keystone type of wall and will it do the job?
Richard: We want to keep in mind fairness and compromise for future requests.
Staff and requester went beyond what was required and that a precedent not be
set here.
Kracum: Point of clarification -expense was unforeseen by City and Developer.
MOTION: Moved by Diane Popovich Lynch, seconded by Richard Brown that
the City pay for half of the cost of the retaining wall with the use of the cash
from park fees. However, this should not set a precedent for future projects.
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
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A. Minnesota Methane LLC
Penning Cross: Gave an update on the proposal that it met all City requirements
and that the methane collected from the landfill would be used to generate
electricity.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Staff Recommendation of Market Center Design Program Chris Enger
Chris Enger, Director of Community Development: Presented several design
alternatives for upgrading the Market Center streetscape.
Richard: Is the Metro Transit Building going to happen for sure?
Enger: Quite sure. $3,500,000 alternate source funding (federal) would be
given for the transit depot. The transit hub for park and ride would be used for
transfer buses and express buses from the suburbs. This will be the first in the
country. The two conceptual alternatives are:
1. Emphasis on the east/west streets between the City Center on the West
and Prairie Center on the East.
2. Emphasis on Prairie Center Drive (the southern half of the ring road).
A budget of up to $24 million is available. I recommend Design A and the
construction for Phase 1 could begin early this summer.
Richard: Does this hinge upon Highway 212? Will or can it be built before
Highway 212 is a reality?
Enger: Yes. The goal is to have it up and running by December, 1995. The
construction can take place whether Highway 212 is under construction or not,
and will be built before Highway 212 is completed.
Richard: I don't know enough about it and I don't want to have it redone.
Clarification - you mentioned $2.4 million. What is that of the total piece of the
pie? What is the $2.4 million going to buy us?
Enger: I put together the unit prices which includes street lighting, pavement,
etc., and have an estimate on the total. Of the total, $800,000 is budgeted for
street lighting. How big, over what area and how much -- lower priority and
lower treatment.
Richard: What is the total dollar amount available?
Kracum: Will this change the area significantly? Technology Drive?
Enger: Indicating by the design of the streetscape, it will give the effect of one
main street.
Richard: The sooner the average citizen can use the park facility, the better off
the city is, but it appears we are still five years away.
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Lambert: The estimated time to begin construction is the winter of 1994 and
1995.
Enger: When the hub is physically built the money will be there.
Brown: How many busses go in and out on a daily basis?
Enger: 1,000 cars and a lot of busses.
Lambert: We need direction to proceed with the planning for landscape
improvements.
Kracum: Do you have support for Plan B?
Enger: No support. 20% of the work will be done with consultants to
completion. This includes semblance of order with the street lights and direction
signs. If the commission has any questions, please contact me.
ti MOTION: Moved by Pat Richard, seconded by Joanne Kube-Harderwijk to
approve for the Staff to move forward with Plan A.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Presentation of Housing Subcommittee on Affordable Housing
r` Katherine Kardell
Kardell: In December, 1992, the subcommittee met to review housing
issues. Since some State Legislators suggested that the suburbs are not
doing their share of providing affordable housing, a survey was completed
of persons working in Eden Prairie to indicate their current characteristics i
and preferences with respect to housing. The survey was designed for
workers in lower paying industries in order to examine assumptions about
the City's balance of housing and jobs. Some of the results are:
20% who work in Eden Prairie live in the City
85% of total respondents either live in the suburbs or outside the
metropolitan area
15% commute from Minneapolis or St. Paul
92% are not seeking housing in Eden Prairie
69% live in single family homes
1/4 of the people surveyed found obstacles to find housing and j
these were financial obstacles
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Recommendation: (1) Encourage the City to work with the Governor,
Legislature and the Metropolitan Council for affordable housing; and (2)
combine environmental requirements with housing goals by providing
funding "carrots"for environmental preservation and management to cities
that provide affordable housing,
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Richard: Are these single or multiple family units?
Kardell: Multiple family housing ($80,000 - $125,000). In the: past it
was $150,000 for single family housing and that is not affordable.
Popovich Lynch: Will there be any finance incentives for 4-plexes?
Kardell: There will be some for smaller units (6).
Kracum: Can the developer use MCDA money to develop such a project
in Eden Prairie?
Lambert: In 1970 we received grant money for scoring points in the
grant applications that rewarded communities with low income housing.
This recommendation suggets providing similar incentives to communities
that provide low income housing.
MOTION: Moved by Diane Popovich Lynch, seconded by Claire
Hilgeman to proceed with the Housing Committee's recommendations.
B. Approval of Architect for Senior Center Renovation
Penning Cross: Staff sent out four (4)proposals to architectural firms within the
area. Three (3) proposals were received and reviewed. The Staff recommends
awarding the contract to Cluts O'Brien Strother and that the amount not exceed
$9,500.
Brown: What was the bid spread?
Penning Cross: $13,400, $12,500 and $9,500. The entire cost of the project
will be $110,000.
Lambert: The woodworking shop would be for everyone - not just seniors.
MOTION: Moved by Diane Popovich Lynch, seconded by Joanne Kube-
Harderwijk to accept the Staff's recommendation of awarding the contract to
Cluts O'Brien Strother Architects and that the amount not to exceed $9,500.00.
C. Approval of Engineering Consultant for Riley Lake Park Development
Penning Cross: Several proposals were sent to consulting companies in the area.
Four proposals were received and reviewed. The Staff recommends that Rieke,
Carroll, Muller Associates, Inc. be awarded the contract in the amount of
$42,750 since their proposal best meets the requirements of the project.
Richard: What is the justification of money paid out to outside engineers?
Penning Cross: We do not have staff that can be assigned to this project for the
next few months. Much of the work is surveying, construction and inspection.
MOTION: Moved by Richard Brown, seconded by Diane Popovich Lynch to ,
accept the Staffs recommendation of awarding the contract to Rieke, Carroll,
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Muller Associates, Inc. in the amount of $42,750 for consulting services in the
construction of Riley Lake Park.
D. Tax Forfeited Lands
Fox: Stated that the Staff recommends that the City Council approve the
resolution which releases Eden Prairie Acres, Lot 4 to public auction.
MOTION: Moved by Richard Brown, seconded by Diane Popovich Lynch to
approve the resolution of the Eden Prairie Acres, Lot 4 to public auction.
E. Resolution Pertaining to the Future Use of the Glen Lake Hennepin County
Propgrty
Lambert: Made the recommendation that the Commission endorse the Glen Lake
Task Force concept of a 9 hole or an 18 hole public golf course on the Glen Lake
property, This could be a 9-hole or an 18-hole course with a driving range,
clubhouse and parking lot. The driving range, clubhouse and parking lot could
be located on the Eden Prairie side. There is definitely a need for a golf course
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Popovich Lynch: Since this would definitely affect the
p Y y Equestrian Program, we
need to get a position statement from the Hennepin County Home School
regarding the Equestrian Program.
Joanne Kube-HarderwUk: The horse program is used for a number of
educational programs - caring, responsibility, etc.
Brown: Has Hennepin County or the Task Force heard from the School? Would
we have room to do this without affecting the School?
Kracum: How will this course compare with Braemar?
MOTION: Moved by Diane Popovich Lynch, seconded by Richard Brown to
delay the decision until representation from the Home School comes to speak at
the Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Commission meeting. S
VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Director of Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources
1. Katherine Trost OQtion Agreement j
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Lambert: The 15.89 acres of land along Riley Creek was
appraised at$270,000 by Campbell Appraisal Company, Inc. This
price remains in effect until August 15, 1994. After that date, the
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price increases to $280,000 until December 31, 1995. The 1994
taxes due on this parcel for 1994 totals $2,903. I recommend that
the Staff request the City Council to authorize approving the option
agreement.
MOTION: Moved by Diane Popovich Lynch, seconded by Claire '
Hilgeman to approve the option agreement between the City of
Eden Prairie and Katherine Trost.
2. Ugdate on Option Negotiation Process on Natural Resource Sites
Lambert: Option has been secured from Katherine Trost for the
property on Riley Creek and verbal agreements have been secured
with Mr. Whitehall and Mr. Charlson on the general terms of an
option. Additional meeting will be held with Mr. George.
B. Reports of Manager of Parrs and Natural Resources
1. Review Subsidy of Maintenance Cost & Schedule Limitations
for Tournaments at City Facilities
Lambert: How do we pay for the tournaments? The number one
issue here is overscheduling of Round Lake Park. r
Fox: Working with both the associations and the council is a
difficult position to be in. We provide excellent services and
facilities and therefore we need to increase the current fees
charged for maintenance associated with the tournaments. The
fees would be based on a scale determined by the mode of
maintenance required for that particular tournament.
Lanzi: Works as a liaison with all facilities and the quality of the
facilities and maintenance is "second to none."
Lambert: Should the taxpayer be paying for athletic tournaments? 1
Why are. taxpayers subsidizing the programs? What is park
carrying capacity? What is overuse?
Brown: What is our out-of-pocket cost? How much lower are we
than other facilities? Overall how do we compare to other
facilities?
Fox: We take maintenance from the park facilities and charge
$25/field/day (ail day) if the City provides the labor to maintain.
Richard: How about if we raise the fee from$25 to$50 and send
out a letter to all those affected by this increase?
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Kube-Harderwok: I have a problem with Number 4 listed under
Problems/Concerns Rpla_ed to intense Use of Round Lake Park
Facilities. We should allow each association one (1) free
tournament in-house and for Modes I, II and III we should charge
$50/day.
MOTION: Moved by Diane Popovich Lynch, seconded by
Joanne Kube-Harderwijk to approve the recommendation by the
Staff as per the Memo of 12/2/93 with the following exceptions:
Number 2 - $50/day be charged for Modes I, II and III for
national, regional or state tournaments that is proportionate to the
higher maintenance costs effective 1994; and Number 4 - Each
association will be entitled to one (1) free in-house tournament.
11R. AD OURNMENT
MOTION: Moved by Hilgeman, seconded by Kracum to adjourn the meeting.
Motion passed by 7-0.
The meeting was adjourned at .10:12 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Judith J. Spratt
Recording Secretary
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