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SEPTEMBER
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CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 1993
TiQ0 P M , CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Richard Brown,
Claire Hilgeman, Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, David
Kracum, Diane Popovich Lynch
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources; Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape
Architect; Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural
Resources; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation
Services
I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - AUGUST 16 1993
!� IV. PETITIONS REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. HAEP Request to Operate Communes Center Concessions
B. Rgq„ps+ from Steve Schultz Re: Commemorative Plaques
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Peter Andrea 5th Addition
VI. OLD BUSINESS
None
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. U.S. Fish & Wildlife Proposal
VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSTONERS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Director of Parks and Natural Resources
1, Memo to Eden Prairie Land Trust
f AGENDA - Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission
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B. goorts of Landscape Architect/Park Planner
1. j1pdate on Referendum Projects and Expenditures
C. Rgpnrts of Manager of Recreation Services
1. 1223-4-duf July Celebration
2, June 15, 1993 Bike Social Report
IX. ADJOURNMENT
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APPROVED MINUTES
PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 1993 7:00 p.m., City Hall
7600 Executive Drive
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COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman,
Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, Claire Hilgeman,
Dave Kracum
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Richard Brown, Diane Popovich Lynch
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks,
Recreation and Natural Resources;
Barbara Cross, Landscape Architect
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m. by Chair, Pat Richard.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Added to the Agenda was VII. B. Joint Meeting of Commissions on October 4,
1993.
MOTION: Kube-Harderwijk moved to approve the agenda for the September 20,
1993 meeting as amended. Bowman seconded the motion. Motion passed 5-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES-AUGUST 16, 1993
MOTION: Kracum moved to approve the Minutes of the August 16, 1993 I
meeting. Motion seconded by Kube-Harderwijk. Motion passed 5-0.
IV. PETITIONS REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS j
A. HAEP Request to Operate Community Center Concessions
The Hockey Association of Eden Prairie is requesting the City Council consider a
proposed agreement which would allow them to operate the concession stands
at the Community Center in order to raise funds to purchase additional ice time
and reduce the cost to participants. HAEP would like to operate these
concession stands with volunteer labor. HAEP has proposed paying the City a
monthly fee of $100 for use of the equipment for six months, plus 10% of the ! i
gross revenue. Staff is recommending 25% of the gross revenue or a flat fee of
$10,000 based on the net revenue of operating 2 rinks and scheduled
( tournaments. Staff is also recommending there be a provision requiring the
HAEP to repair and maintain all City equipment used during the period of the
lease. The City Council has always tried to operate the Community Center as a
business with the goal of trying to meet operating costs.
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The staff feels it would not be appropriate to recommend anything that would
reduce the potential profit in the concession stands. While the Community
Center was able to meet expenses for a few years, the cost of repairing the!
equipment and down time over the last several years has required the City to
heavily subsidize this facility. Approving HAEP's proposed agreement would
increase the subsidy.
Greta Wagner, a representative of the HAEP, expressed concern on behalf of
HAEP agreeing to the 25% or $10,000 because the City has never operated
both rinks during the season and have only projections to determine gross
profits. Lambert stated staff has done studies of other Cities operating 2 rinks
and that we are in line with what other Cities in the area are requesting and is
comfortable with the 25% or $10,000 flat fee being able to cover bottom line
costs.
Bowman questioned the provision of repairing and maintaining the equipment
by HAEP. Lambert explained the equipment is very expensive and because we
have no control over the people operating the equipment, the HAEP would take
precautions in training the person or persons operating the equipment. It was
also possible that the person operating the equipment would be less likely to
abuse the equipment if the provision existed.
Kracum asked whether the City would still have to maintain insurance coverage
of the concession stands. Lambert stated the City would still have the coverage
and will request the HAEP apply for a license through the County to operate the
concession stand. As long as the HAEP operates in the same manner and under
the same controls as what is expected of the City, staff does not feel there
would be a problem in this area.
Richard asked who would be keeping track of the records eliminating the
possibility of someone stealing from the HAEP and/or the City. Wagner stated
there would be only 3 people from the HAEP keeping the books thereby
decreasing the chance of someone stealing. She also explained it would be in
the best interest of the HAEP to keep accurate and honest records of the cash
flow so that next year when it comes time to negotiate a new contract they have
the proper documentation to base their profits and losses on.
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MOTION: Kube-Harderwijk moved that the Commission approve the modification
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of the staffs recommendation of 25% for 6 months for the Hockey Association to
operate the concession stand at the Community Center. Bowman seconded the
motion. Motion passed 5-0.
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B. Request from Steve Schultz Re: Commemorative Plagues
Round Lake Park's tennis courts are the home courts of the Boys and Girls
Tennis Teams of Eden Prairie High School. The School District would like to
place a sign that would display the accomplishments of the Boys and Girls
Tennis Teams. Similar signs have been placed in the gymnasiums and at the
football stadium and will be in the soccer fields. The boys and girls on these
teams have expressed their interest in having the same type of recognition.
Because their home courts are City owned, the City Council would have to
authorize the placement of these plaques. It has been suggested that upon
approval, these signs should be placed against the tennis court fence on the
north side of the tennis courts, mainly because the majority of the school buses
bringing other teams enter from the north parking lot; thereby, having to walk
passed and take notice of the plaques.
Staff is recommending the City Council authorize the School District to place
commemorative plaques on the north side of the tennis courts at Round Lake
Park. The high school would be responsible for placing and maintaining the
signs.
MOTION: Richard moved to approve the recommendation of the placement of
plaques according to the Staffs memorandum dated September 13, 1993.
Hilgeman seconded the motion. Motion passed 5-0.
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Peter Andrea 5th Addition
The Peter Andrea project has been working with the Planning staff for
approximately 2 months. The property is a wooded slop southeast of Bryant
Lake near Interstate 494 and Highway 169.
The original proposal had 30 townhouse lots and had tree loss at 51%. Staff
was not comfortable with the percentage of tree loss and told the developer to
submit a new proposal with a lesser percentage of tree loss. A number of items
were changed to reduce the loss of trees. The road alignment had been
changed; the units were decreased by 8 lots and the size of the lots along the
western boundary were increased to 1 acre lots; thus, allowing only a 35% tree
loss and a better transition of the neighborhood.
The developer will grade a 10 foot wide pad concurrent with road construction
for a trail to be installed by the City. This trail will eventually extend to Bryant
Lake Park through the Wooddale Church outlot.
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This project does not need any variances. The developer will be filling a wetland
in the center of the project so that there can be a road and will be mitigating it
by enlarging the wetland along Bryant Lake Drive. The alterations and mitigation
are in accordance with the Wedand Preservation Act and approved by the
Watershed District.
35% Tree loss is on the high side of the average. However, because this a very
difficult site to develop with a 74 foot vertical drop; because the developer
downsized its units from 2.5 units per acre to 1.48 units and the measures the
developer has taken to preserve the 65% remaining trees, Staff is comfortable
with recommending this project.
Richard questioned whether the developer could have 2.5 units per lot if the
project lost more than 35% of the trees. Lambert explained that because Staff
has set a "standard" of 30-35% tree loss, it does not mean that 30% is an
ordinance. The City's tree replacement ordinance does not have a set
percentage of tree loss; however, based on the tree preservation ordinance, the
percentage of trees would have to be replaced. Staff feels that within a wooded
area a developer should be able to develop the land while retaining 65% of the
significant trees.
MOTION: Kracum moved to approve the Peter Andrea 5th Addition proposal per
staff recommendations outlined in the Staff Memorandum dated September 15,
1993, and the Planning Commission Staff Report dated August 20, 1993. Kube-
Harderwijk seconded the motion. Motion passed 4-0 with Hilgeman abstaining.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
None
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. U.S. Fish &Wildlife Proposal- FYI
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Lambert gave a brief outline of the September 15, 1993, public information
meeting regarding the proposal to expand the Minnesota Valley National Wildlife
Refuge. Representatives from the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service were there to answer
questions and to receive input on the proposal. Currently, the Service is evaluating
the feasibility of adding several different areas to the Refuge. Two of the areas in
Eden Prairie include the approximate 160 acres of floodplain that was designated
for City acquisition and the additional acreage along the river bluffs in the same
vicinity. The proposal was well received by the majority of the attendees with some
opposition . The meeting was very informative.
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B. Joint Meeting of Commissions.-October 4 1993
The City Council has asked the Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources
Commission and the Waste Management Commission to look into regulating the
use and application of lawn chemicals in the City of Eden Prairie. This meeting will
be held at 7:00 p.m. prior to the start of the Parks and Recreation meeting at 7:30
p.m. on Monday, October 4, 1993.
VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Director of Parks and Natural Resources
1. !Memo to Eden Prairie Land Trust- FYI
The Land Trust requested Lambert to review the current status of the two
sites that were recommended for acquisition by the Natural Resources Study
Committee and the Land Trust. Lambert further explained that the proposals
have now been completed and the appraisals have been sent to the property
owners. A letter was also included explaining the value of the property and
that the City would like to negotiate with the land owners for an option, up
to 3 years. The letter asked that the land owners just think how much they
would sell their property for now and the concurring 3 years. The anticipates
having all three sites negotiated within 6 months.
B. Reports of Landscape Architect/Park Planner
1. Update on Referendum Projects and Expenditures- FYI
Penning Cross reviewed the park development at Miller Park, Pioneer Park
and Riley Lake Park. Because of the wet weather and saturated soil this year
construction on these parks have been slowed down to a near halt. Staff
hopes to be able to complete Pioneer Park with their own crew and nursery
this year. Staff was trying to seed the berm in between Miller Park and
Western Bay. The crews tried to push the dirt back on the slopes and seed
it, to no avail. Because of the rain, Staff has decided to put the project into a
contract for completion early next year. Richard commented on how
impressive Miller Park will be once completed. ,
Bowman questioned why Pioneer Park was approximately $93,000, over
budget. Penning Cross stated $52,000 was added to the contract before
construction had even begun. The Senior Center still had septic tank that
needed removal which was not included in the park referendum budget.
Because of the steep grade in the park it was recommended to have curb
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and gutter added. The remaining $25,000 is to cover any other unforeseen
costs.
Lambert also explained because of the rerouting of Riley Lake Road around
the Riley Lake Park, the development of the park will now be into phase 3,
which originally was not anticipated until approximately the year 2000. No
estimate was completed for phase 3 of the development. The approximate
cost of the park now is $600-$700,000.
C. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services
1. 1993 4th of luly Celebration-FYI
2. lune 15 1993 Bike Social Report- FYI
IX. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Kracum moved to adjourn the meeting. Kube-Harderwijk seconded the
motion. The motion passed 5-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:47 p.m. by Chair, Richard.
Respectfully submitted,
Theresa M. Pendroy
Recording Secretary
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