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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 08/16/1993 f.f tc:� t b �I �t r•. L+ +L x �! ... .. ....... .....,.. .......1 ..:..... , ...., , { { � F,..Ywt.. I ' 1993 AUGUST 2 16 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE r . A. AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, AUGUST 2, 1993 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Richard Brown, Claire Hilgeman, Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, Adam Harju, David Kracum, Diane Popovich Lynch, Thomas Marcus, COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources; Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape Architect; Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural Resources; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation Services I. ROLL CALL H. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JULY 19, 1993 IV. PETITIONS. REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None , V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. giant Lake Regional Park Development Plan VI. OLD BUSINESS �411� VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Consider Change of Meeting Time from 7:30 p.m. to 7:00 12m VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. Reports of Director of Parks. Recreation & Natural Resources 1. Annual Report Summary- continued from July 19th Meeting B. Reports of Manager of Parks and Natural Resources 1, Riley Purgatory Creek Watershed District Annual Report and Town Meeting Notice 2. Selection Process for the Deer Study Co mmittee IX. ADJOURNMENT APPROVED MINUTES PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, AUGUST 2, 1993 7:30 p.m., City Hall 7600 EXactutiVe Drive COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Claire Hilgeman, Thomas Marcus, Richard Brown, Diane Popovich Lynch, Adam Harju COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, Dave Kracum COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Chair, Pat Richard. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Richard Brown brought up the trail markings at Staring Lake. Painting of arrows on trail is not clear; which direction for walkers path vs. bikers is confusing; currently roller blades can go either direction. Signs are, on order to correct this. MOTION: Brown moved to approve the Agenda for the August 2, 1993 meeting. Motion seconded by Hilgeman. Motion passed 7-0 III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JULY 19 1993 A. Corrections noted were: 1. Page 3, last paragraph - cited misspelled. 2. Page 7, B. second paragraph - Hilgeman misspelled. 3. Page 7, B. fourth paragraph - take out were in first sentence. MOTION: Hilgeman moved to approve the Minutes as Amended above of the July 19, 1993 meeting. Motion seconded by Bowman. Motion passed 7-0. IV. PETITIONS REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Bryant Lake Regional Park Development Plan Donald Uram, Planner, with Suburban Hennepin Regional Park District presented a site plan review. ..approved Minutes Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission Monday, August 2, 1993 The Bryant Lake Regional Park Development is 167 acres plus a small piece (under 2 acres) . The proposed project is the first phase of a three phase project. Construction includes the main park entrance, a maintenance building, picnic pavilion/visitor center with parking for 120 cars plus 6 handicap, a play area, boat rental/changing shelter, a boat ramp with parking for 20 cars, the beach and a retaining wall for the pond. Phase II is for a reservation picnic area on the East side of the park. It will include 4 picnic sites, picnic shelter, restrooms and parking for 25 cars. Phase III will add an additional reservation picnic area and parking for another 120 cars. 1. Would like to start taking bids next month if project is approved. 2. They will build the beach during the winter per the DNR permit. 3. Where is the new access to the park? - Back away from Raspberry Hill Road. - Pulled it 60' into the park to save trees and provide a buffer for traffic. 4. Concern of neighbors regarding the location of the maintenance building. - Provided landscape plan utilizing earth berms and plantings to provide screening. - It will be 450' to the closest home. 5. All park roads will be curbed and guttered. 6. There will be room to double stack cars and trailers off of Rowland Road (not allowed to park at boat launch) . 7. This plan will improve the quality of the lake's water. DISCUSSION: Bowman: - What landscaping is in the area of the maintenance shop now? Box elder trees and some natural vegetation. - Will this limit residents view of the lake? No, none of the neighbors have a clear view of the lake now. C - Is there a limit to the number of boats on the lake and/or that can launch? The park will provide space for 20 boats to launch, once those spaces are 2 r. approved Minutes Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission Monday, August 2, 1993 filled no additional boats can launch from Bryant Lake Regional Park until another space frees up. The parking lots are also gated. However, we can not control launches from other sites on the lake. - This is a 170 acre lake and the formula provides 1 boat for every 20 acres. Historically this has been a 20 stall lake since 1967. - There have been noise complaints on this lake - can we limit the use of 'jet skis? Control would have to come from the city. Perhaps some type of enforcement program to limit. Hennepin County is willing to work with the City on this. Brown: Do we have anything in place to limit noise on any of our other lakes? You could limit speed to 10 m.p.h. but that will prohibit skiing and discourage many fishermen. There is a state law limiting noise. Bowman: Are there any provisions for milfoil inspection or !!! a cleaning station? - When boats come into the park they are inspected. - DNR/Park arranges for spot checks on the weekends. 1 rfect. Spot checks help but they are not pe With unlimited access to the lake there is no way to check or control. Brown: a Have dates been set for Phase I or II? - Phase I - estimated at $1.2 MM - completion in Spring 1995. - Park will be closed during construction - all of 1994. - This will be a three season park spring/summer/fall. - Cost of grooming trails, lighting and snow making equipment ruled out use for Winter activities. Park will be open in the winter for limited use. Doug Bryant indicated that developing parks for cross country skiing is very expensive. The 3 approved Minutes �.. Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission Monday, August 2, 1993 decision the Park District made is to limit the number of parks where cross country skiing is provided. This is similar to the decision many cities have made on outdoor hockey rinks. Many cities once provided for hockey rinks at all park facilities within the city - it became prohibitive to provide staffing, parking, restrooms and maintenance at all locations. Now hockey rinks are maintained at selected locations only in most cities. Popovich Lynch: Will picnic sites be available with the completion of Phase I? - Phase I will provide reservation picnic areas only. 1 MOTION: Popovich Lynch moved to approve the Bryant Lake Regional Park Development Plan per the July 23, 1993 Staff Report. Motion seconded by Brown. Motion passed 6-0. VI. OLD BUSINESS None f VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Consider Change of Meeting Time from 7 30 b m to 7.00 p•m• Hilgeman and Richard are in favor of meeting earlier. Popovich Lynch - if we are going to start 30 minutes, let's plan on leaving 30 minutes earlier. The motivation is to leave earlier and not just expand the length of the meeting. Staff has no objection to changing the meeting time. i MOTION: Hilgeman moved to change the starting time of the August 16, 1993 meeting to 7:00 p.m. Motion seconded by Brown. Motion passed 6-0. NOTE: Richard will make sure that Kube- Harderwijk and Kracum are notified of the time change. 4 • s r approved Minutes Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission Monday, August 2, 1993 VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. geports of Director of Parks Recreation & Natural Resources 1. Annual Report Summary - continued from July 19th Meeting See Financial Section of 1992 Annual Report. B. ge orts of Manager of Parks and Natural Resot3r-sces 1. Riley Purggtory Creek Watershed District Annual Report and Town Meeting Notice For Your Information - see attachment - Bob Lambert. 2. Selection process for the Deer Study Committee For Your Information - see attachment - Bob Lambert. IX. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Hilgeman moved to adjourn the meeting. Popovich Lynch seconded the motion. Motion passed 6-0. The meeting was adjourned at 8:50 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Kathy Hengel Recording Secretary 5 AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMIVIISSION MONDAY, AUGUST 16, 1993 7W P M , CXTY HALT, COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Richard Brown, Claire Hilgeman, Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, Adam Har u, David Kracum, Diane Popovich Lynch, Thomas Marcus COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources; Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape Architect; Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural Resources; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation Services I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - AUGUST 2, 1993 IV. PETITIONS REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS one V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Boulder Pointe 5th Addition VI. OLD BUSINESS NQU VII. NEW BUSINESS None VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. Reports of Community Center Operations Manager 1. Rgquests for Hockey Tournaments IX. ADJO RNMENT parkag/1 APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION A. MONDAY, AUGUST 16, 1993 7:00 P. M., CITY HALL 7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE i COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Bruce Bowman, Richard Brown, Claire Hilgeman, Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, David Kracum, Diane Popovich Lynch COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Pat Richard COMMISSION STAFF: Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape Architect I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:03 p.m. by acting chair Diane Popovich Lynch. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Add: NEW BUSINESS - A. Status Report of Referendum III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 2j 1993 ^I MOTION: Moved by Hilgeman, seconded by Brown. Motion passed 4-0 with Kracum and Kube-Harderwijk abstaining. IV. PETITIONS. REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS j A. Boulder Pointe 5th Addition - Cross state that Randy Travalia of Mason Homes was unable to attend the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission 7 meeting because he had a conflict with a Council meeting in another city. Cross reviewed the 1998 PUD and described the extension of the sidewalk along Boulder Pointe Road, the storm water ponds and the tree loss. The developer has replaced enough trees in previous phases that no additional tree replacement is required by code on this project. Brown asked if there was an ordinance against I '� bicycles riding on a sidewalk. Cross stated that Eden Prairie does not have this kind of ordinance. Kube-Harderwijk asked if the City would erect at fence along the property line of the park to screen the homeowner. Cross answered that the City does not put up a fence. A row of spruce trees are planted within the park property for screening and that the owner could erect a fence if desired. P I vj 1, Approved Minutes Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission August 16, 1993 MOTION: Moved by Kracum, seconded by Kube- Harderwijk, to approve the Boulder Pointe 5th Addition project as per the recommendation of the Planning Staff Report by Michael Fransen dated August 6, 1993. Motion passed 5-0. VI. OLD BUSINESS None VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Status of Referendum - Popovich Lynch inquired what the status of the referendum to acquire the lands selected by the Natural Resource Study Committee. Cross explained that we were in the process of having the three properties appraised. The committee members will be notified when the `r appraisals are completed and negotiations would then begin with property owners. Kracum asked if the City was running out of time to market the bond referendum. Hilgeman stated that the last bond referendum was given a six week time frame i for marketing. a VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF A. Reports of Community Center Operations Manager 1. Request for Hockey Tournament -Cross stated we have two requests for additional hockey tournaments at the Eden Prairie Community Center. One request was from the Hockey Association of Eden Prairie and one 1 from Dictrict 6 Youth State Hockey. The Hockey Association of Eden Prairie usually has two tournaments to serve as fund raisers for their association. They are asking for two additional tournaments. Lesson programs would not be affected, but public skating times would need to be cancelled. Popovich Lynch stated concern that public skating would be cancelled the day after Thanksgiving. Brown stated that this tournament is a fund raiser for the Eden Prairie Hockey association and not only would the City gain revenue for this ice time, but the money that was raised would pay for additional ice time for the Hockey Association. MOTION: Moved by Brown, seconded by Hilgeman, to approve the Hockey Association of Eden Prairie tournaments at the Community Center as laid out in Dave Black's August 10, 1993 memo. Motion approved 5- 0. MOTION: Moved by Brown, seconded by Hilgeman, to approve the 2 ......- . ., ., 1.,. _. ..... ,.. .. .. ..�u...... ._,..,.'. .... .° .. �:.. 1 ....t,. r?'..i,..a,aft,....;eau^ Approved Minutes Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission August 16, 1993 i District 6 Hockey to host the Youth State Hockey Tournaments at the Community Center based on Dave Black's August 10, 1993 memo. Motion approved 5-0. Hilgeman initiated discussion about the future of an outdoor pool in Eden Prairie. She stated that she had been visiting pools of other communities this summer and Oak Point would be a good place to build an indoor swimming pool, but Eden Prairie should strongly consider building an y outdoor swimming pool. Popovich Lynch suggested talking with the Preserve to obtain public use of their pool. Hilgeman stated her desire to contact other community outdoor pools for information. IX. ADJOURNMENT J MOTION: Moved by Kube-Harderwijk, seconded by Bowman, to adjourn the meeting. Motion passed 6-0. The meeting was adjourned at 7:40 p.m. by acting Chair Popovich Lynch. Respectfully Submitted, I Barbara Penning Cross Recording Secretary Augl6min/6 J i P Y ItF i 3