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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COM MSION
MONDAY, MAY 4, 1992 7:30 P. M., CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Clair Hildgeman,
Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, David Kracum, Diane
Popovich Lynch, Del Vanderploeg
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources; Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape
Architect; Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural
Resources; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation
Services
I. ROLL. CALL - Introduce Claire Hild eg man
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - APRIL, 1992
�. IV. PETITIONS. REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Bluffs East 12th Addition
B. G.E. Capital Fleet Services, Inc.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Milfoil Legislation
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Smetana Lake Outlet Modification
B. Proposed Change to Park Use Ordinance
VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. R=rts of Manager of Parks and Natural Resources
1. Report on Park Cleanup
2, Recommendation to Purchase a Skid Steer Loader
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B. E=rts of Manager of Recreation Services
I. Proclamation for Senior Awareness Week
. IX. REPORTS OF CITY COUNCIL
X. ADJOURNMENT
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EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
Monday, May 4, 1992 7:30 p.m. , City Hall
7600 Executive Drive
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Richard, Chair; Claire
Hilgeman, Joanne Kube-Harderwijk,
David Kracum, Diane Popovich
Lynch
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Bruce Bowman, Del Vanderploeg
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Parks,
Recreation and Natural Resources
I. ROLL CALL - Introduce Claire Hilgeman
The meeting was called to order at 7: 30 p.m. by Chair,
Pat Richard.
Lambert introduced Claire Hilgeman as the new member of
the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission.
Hilgeman will serve the remainder of Paul Karpinko' s term.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Lambert said that B. G.E. Capital Fleet Services, Inc.
under V. Development Proposals has been tabled until the
next meeting.
Lynch added B. Trapping Update under VI. Old Business.
The agenda was approved as amended.
III. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Bluffs East 12th Addition
Refer to memo dated April 30, 1992 from Barb Cross,
Landscape Architect and staff reports dated April 10,
1992, April 25, 1986 and April 11, 1986.
Beth Samestad from Hustad Development reviewed the
proposed development which was approved in a 1986 PUD
for 29 single family lots. This has been revised for
28 single family lots on 12. 47 acres south of Lee Drive
and west of Franlo Road.
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Lambert said that the only parks, recreation and natural
resources issue is the continuation of the sidewalk
to Franlo Road. He and Barb Cross will meet with Hustad
Development and the property owners on Tuesday regarding
the asphalt trail connection off Antlers Ridge.
The City has requested the Twin City Tree Trust to
construct the trail connection at Antlers Ridge this
year. The trail will serve residents in this area,
as well as those across the creek.
Lynch asked who the Twin City Tree Trust is. Lambert
explained its role.
Kracum asked if the bridge is for pedestrian traffic
only. Lambert said yes.
MOTION: Lynch moved to approve Bluffs East 12th Addition
per staff recommendation. Kracum seconded the motion
// and it passed 5-0.
l' VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Milfoil Legislation
This is an information item only.
Richard asked for clarification of the bill as it pertains
to the lakes in Eden Prairie.
Lambert said that treatment of affected lakes in Eden
Prairie will depend upon available funding which may
not occur until August. It is unknown which lakes
are considered high priority.
The legislation puts good control on public and private
lake access. Major boat accesses such as Lake Minnetonka
will be manned on a regular basis.
Lynch added that the wording of the bill makes it appear
that the state has already been working on a lake
management plan and the milfoil legislation is only
a continuation of that plan and is to be completed
by 1993.
Lynch noted that the bill also allows lake accesses
{. to be closed for a period of up to seven days while
treatment is occuring.
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B. Trapping Update
Lynch reported that the sub-committee has had three
meetings to date. The sub-committee consists of City
staff including Stu Fox; Mitch Snyder, animal control
officer; Mike Hammer, DNR; representatives from F.A.T. E. ,
a representative from the Minnesota Trappers Association
and the DNR rehabilitator.
The group should have a draft completed after the next
meeting and it should be ready for review by the
Commission by the end of June.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Smetana Lake Outlet Modification
Refer to memo dated April 30, 1992 from Bob Lambert,
Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources
Commission.
Lambert said that several of the property owners are
present at the meeting to comment on the proposed project.
He noted that two of the property owners listed in
the report are incorrect. The parcel listed as Mark
Thune should be Pat Kostecka and the parcel listed
as Claire Heath should be John Kottke.
Lambert said that this is not a "public hearing" , but
the project will be reviewed by the Planning Commission
next week and the City Council in two weeks. He would
like the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources
Commission to provide their recommendation to the City
Council.
The original project was proposed in the Watershed
District in 1961 and updated in 1973. The reason it
has taken so long to proceed is that the project was
low on the priority list. The plan proposes that an
outlet modification take place at Smetana Lake for
flood control, provide environmental protection, improve
water quality, preserve wetlands and enhance the
aesthetics of the surrounding property and provide
recreational facilities.
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Staff feels that the DNR Waters and Fishery sections
will support the project while the Wildlife Section
may oppose it because it involves the loss of wetlands.
Surrounding property owners were in favor of the project
because it would improve the aesthetics of the area.
The public hearing will be held in late June or early
July. At the time, the City of Eden Prairie needs
to comment on its support or opposition to the plan.
If the City decides not to support the project, they
will be responsible for the cost of the study which
is approximately $100,000.
The engineer' s report outlines the following to be
included in the project: construction of a dam 200
feet west of Golden Triangle Drive similar to Normandale `
Lake and raising the water level of the lake from 834
to 838 with a 100 year flood elevation of 841. This
would require a significant amount of floodplain easement
acquisition. The major problem is the cost to acquire
the property. The engineer ' s report assumes that the
easements will be gifted and has proposed $150, 000
for acquisition of the parkland.
Staff' s recommendation is that the City support the
project subject to obtaining necessary easements and
negotiating an agreeable funding schedule. Funds for
the project should be delayed until accurate costs
are obtained. Another consideration would be to wait
until development occurs and to take land in lieu of
cash park fees if the cost to acquire parkland is too
high.
Frank and Mary Smetana of 7722 Smetana Lane said that
833 is the ordinary high water mark for the lake and
it is already at 835. The water level of the lake
was raised artifically in 1986 and the creek bed was
altered in 1976. Frank Smetana said that parts of
the engineer' s report are inaccurate and upsetting.
He wants to see the issue resolved, but does not know
how it can be done.
Richard asked how much property will be affected if
the water level is raised to 838. Mary Smetana said
C that over half of their backyard would be under water.
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Frank Smetana said that there is the possibility they
would have 2 feet of water in their basement if the
lake was raised and there was a heavy rain.
Frank Smetana added that while raising the water level
may protect the property downstream, it will affect
them adversely. They did not have water in the house
during the 1987 flood, but it was within 1 foot.
Mary Smetana said that she is concerned with the
foundation of the house as well.
Franc Smetana said that he has a problem with Bob
Obermeyer at the Watershed District who said that flooding " r
is not his problem and Smetana could build a dike.
Lynch asked if there are other alternatives to meet
the requests to raise the water level and protect the
property owners at the same time.
Frank Smetana said he would like to see a nicer looking
lake, but does not know if it is worth the risk of
flooding and losing half of their backyard. He added
that he will build a dike if necessary, but does not
want to pay for it.
Edward Smetana said that he is not in favor of raising
the lake level.
John Kottke of 7765 Smetana Lane said he has 2.45 acres
of land, but will have only .95 acres left and would
lose two buildings if the level of the lake is raised.
He is not adamantly opposed to the project, but feels
that the Watershed District has pushed it to the limit.
He disagrees that raising the water level will improve
water quality, as there is a great deal of wildlife
there now. He said they have gotten along all right
so far and does not feel it is necessary now. He said
that he was told when purchasing the property that
during a heavy rain the water could come within 1 foot
of the buildings. Kottke added that he would not be
able to replace the buildings if they were lost because
they are in the floodplain area and are grandfathered
in, and he had planned to restore them to their original
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Kracum asked if the yard is landscaped or natural terrain.
Kottke said that the property is not landscaped, but
all of it is kept mowed.
Pat Kostecka commented that this is a beautiful area
for a park, but she feels this project was encouraged
by the commercial users. She feels that estimates
to buy the property are low because they cannot be
sold as residential.
Richard asked if Kostecka's property would be affected
by raising the water level. Kostecka said she lives
on a hill so would not be affected in the same way.
Frank Smetana said that his father owns the property
that is proposed for the park. His father is in a
nursing home, but it would not be his desire to have
his property taken for parkland.
Lambert said that a decision on this project will not
be made quickly. Any loss of property or damage would
have to be compensated by the City. The City should
not make a recommendation on the project until accurate
costs are obtained and residents ' concerns have been
addressed.
Lynch asked if there are alternatives to raising the
water level. Lambert said that the Watershed District
engineer' s indicated that if the water level is not
raised at least 4 feet, it would not be enough of a
change to warrant the project. i
Kottke feels that dredging would serve the same purpose.
Lambert said that dredging would not improve flood
control although it might improve water quality.
Hilgeman asked if it is true that the City is dumping
debris into the lake. Lambert said he is not aware
that this is being done, but he will find out.
Richard asked who pays for the cost of compensating
the property owners. Lambert said the Watershed District
would pay 100% for water management portions and for
land acquisition, the Watershed District would pay I .
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Hilgeman asked if the project can be delayed indefinitely
or is there a deadline for a decision to be made.
Lambert does not believe there is a deadline.
Hilgeman asked if the study has already been paid for.
Lambert said that the Watershed District will pay for
the study if the City decides to support the project.
Lambert added that the City petitioned for the project
and it needs to be resolved relatively soon.
Kostecka commented that she has lost interest in her
property since this project is being considered and
may be willing to sell her parcel for park property.
Lynch said she is confused on what has been spent on
the project so far. Lambert said the City has not
spent anything to date, but would be liable for the
cost of the study if we choose not to proceed with
the project.
Richard said that assuming the project is approved,
what will the total costs be to the City. Lambert
said that the study estimates $313,000; however, he
believes it will be significantly more.
Lambert added that the project could be funded by cash
park fees, the general fund, tax increment financing
for the portion of Valley View Road that would be improved
or assessing the property owners (if we could prove
an increase in value to their property) .
Richard said his feeling is that if the City would
spend a significant amount of money and the residents
are not in favor of the project, he would not support
raising the water level just for the benefit of the
people downsteam or to make the lake look better.
Richard asked if the residents would support the project
if they were compensated at fair market value.
Frank Smetana said that the water level is already
2 feet higher than it should be and something has to
be done.
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Hilgeman is confused about why the City should be held
responsible for the water level being raised 2 feet.
Smetana said that there is a sewer trunk line across
Nine Mile Creek although he said it would be difficult
L•o prove who was actually responsible.
Kostecka said she feels the City is responsible because
they allowed the commercial areas to build in the area
and add fill so there is nowhere for the water to go.
Richard asked if this area is expected to be completely
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commercial in the future. Lambert indicated it would
be office or industrial.
Mary Smetana said that although the project is not
a big surprise to the residents, they are concerned
because it is difficult for them to negotiate against
the commercial users. She does not have much faith
in the City of Eden Prairie's negotiating skills.
MOTION: Richard moved to recommend proceeding with
the Smetana Lake outlet modification providing that
the residents are compensated fairly and that accurate
costs to the City are obtained. Hilgeman seconded
the motion.
On call for discussion, Lynch asked if this would be
a plausible response to the Watershed District or are
they looking for a yes or no answer.
Lambert said the City can recommend whatever they want,
but they will be liable for the cost of the study if
the project does not proceed due to our action.
Lambert added that a decision on this project would
not be as difficult in another suburb of the Twin Cities
since the number of lakes in Eden Prairie is taken
for granted. Although the City has higher priorities
for the money at this time, the project may be appreciated
more in the future. The lake will be healthier and
better for fishing and recreation if the water level
is raised. Providing public access to this type of
resource is more important in the big picture than
building a couple of softball fields.
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If raising the water level is not an affordable option
now, the City could hope that a commercial developer
will purchase all of the land and the City can take
10% as parkland: or it is possible that only a few
homes will be left on the lake surrounded by office
buildings and there will not be enough land left to
develop.
Richard asked if variances or easements can be attached
to the property so development can take place in the
future. Lambert said this is also a possibility.
Kottke said that if the park is developed, will it
be possible for watercraft usage to be restricted to
non-motorized only. Lambert said that this would be
a good possibility and would definitely be addressed.
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Kracum asked about the current zoning in this area.
Lambert said it is zoned as rural, but guided as office
or office/industrial.
�- Hilgeman asked who would pay for the cost of raising '
the electric towers as discussed in the engineer' s
report. Lambert said it would be paid for by the
Watershed District.
Richard withdrew his original motion and Hilgeman withdrew
her second to the motion. y
Kube-Harderwijk agreed with Frank Smetana that the
water level issue needs to be resolved and not dragged
out any longer.
Lambert suggested that the Commission recommend proceeding
with the project after negotiations to acquire property
for the park have been done, including the Kostecka
property, and costs for easements and permits have
been obtained.
MOTION: Richard moved to recommend that the Smetana
Lake outlet modification project proceed subject to
negotiations with the property owners for parkland
and when costs for easements and permits have been
received. Hilgeman seconded the motion and it passed
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B. Proposed Change to Park Use Ordinance
Refer to memo dated April 23, 1992 from Bob Lambert,
Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources.
Lambert said that a complaint was received about a
dog in the playground area. The individual was concerned
about a large dog bothering young children in the
playground area. Pets are not allowed on the swimming
beach, but are not restricted in the parks even if
they are on a leash.
MOTION: Hilgeman moved to recommend changing the existing
park use ordinance to restrict dogs, cats and other
pets from the play areas. Lynch seconded the motion
and it passed 5-0.
VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Manager of Parks and Natural Resources
1. Report on Park Cleanup Day
Refer to memo dated April 30, 1992 from S-u Fox,
Manager of Parks and Natural Resources.
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This is an information item only.
Lambert said that participation was down from last
year because of the weather and proximity to Easter.
Richard suggested that the Cub Scouts be contacted,
as they would be a good project for them.
2. Recommendation to Purchase a Skid Steer Loader
Refer to memo dated April 30, 1992 from Stu Fox,
Manager of Parks and Natural Resources.
This is an information item only.
B. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services
1. Proclamation for Senior Awareness Week
This is an information item only.
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IX. REPORTS OF CITY COUNCIL
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Lambert said that G.E. Capital is changing their plans
to add only one tennis court which would not affect the
shoreland management ordinance and they will not commit
to restoring the prairie.
Hilgeman asked if the large parking area is necessary.
Lambert said it will be needed for future expansion which
includes a five story building.
X. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Lynch moved to adjourn the meeting at 9 :25 p.m.
Kube--Harderwijk seconded the motion and it passed 5--0.
.Respectfully submitted,
Lois Boettcher
Recording Secretary
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, MAY 18, 1992 7:30 P. M., CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Clair Hildgeman,
Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, David Kracum, Diane
Popovich Lynch, Del Vanderploeg
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources; Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape
Architect; Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural
Resources; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation
Services
I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - MAY 4, 1992
IV. P T TI TIS REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. Rye nest from School District to Consider Revisions to Forest Hills School
Park Playground Site Plan
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Eden Lake Townhouses
B. Eden Creek Addition
C. G.E. Capital Fleet Services, Inc. (refer to plan in May 4 packet)
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Trapping Committee Report
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Recommendation to Award Bid for Construction of 2nd Ice Rink at
Community Center
B. Reccommendation Regarding Authorizing Funding and Construction of Entry
at Community Center
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None
IX. REPORTS OF CITY COUNCIL
X. ADJOURNMENT
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EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, MAY 18 , 1992 7 : 30 PM, CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7600 Executive Drive
COMMISSION MEMBERS : Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Clair
Hildgeman, Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, David
Kracum, Diane Popovich Lynch, Del
Vanderploeg
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert , Director of Parks ,
Recreation and Natural Resources ;
Barbara Penning Cross , Landscape
Architect; Stuart A. Fox, Manager of
Parks and Natural Resources ; Laurie
Helling, Manager of Recreation Services
I . ROLL CALL
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The meeting was called to order at 7 :30 PM by Chair, Pat Richard.
Bowman was absent . I
II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The following items were added to the agenda: VII . C._ Dates for
--Q-Ur-a; M I I D Miller Park Landscapina .
MOTION: Vanderploeg moved, seconded by Lynch, to approve the
Agenda as published and amended. Motion carried 6-0 .
III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MAY 4 1992__lEBTING
MOTION: Lynch moved, seconded by Kube-Harderwijk, to approve as
submitted the Minutes of May 4 , 1992 . Motion carried 6-0.
IV. PETITIONS REOLiRSTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. Reauest from School District to Consider Revisions to Forest
Hills School Park Playground Sita Plan
Refer to the memo dated May 15, 1992 , from Bob Lambert ,
Director of Parks , Recreation & Natural Resources .
Lambert said the School District has requested expansion and
relocation of the playground at Forest Hills Elementary
School and that there are concerns regarding potential ,
conflicts with the City' s nearby ballfield. Lambert then
introduced Steve Thompson, representing Cuningham Architects
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Thompson reviewed the various options considered for
locating the playground and then showed the recommended plan
to use the south half of the stock pile mound adjacent to
the ballfield for the playground location. He said they
would like to get started on the project as soon as
possible.
Vanderploeg asked if the height of the backstop is adequate
to stop foul balls from going into the playground. Thompson
said there had been much discussion on this point and that
this would be a potential problem only during scheduled
league games which would not occur during the school day.
Kube-Harderwijk asked if the ramp would provide handicapped
accessibility. Thompson said it would.
Hildgeman asked about use of the mound as a sliding area.
Thompson said he hadn' t seen the City report and he was not
quite sure where they would put it .
Richard asked if staff is comfortable with the plan.
Lambert said they would like to do additional study on the
impact of foul balls and that we might want to install large
poles with cable and netting that would capture about 95% of
Cthe foul balls . He said we would need to monitor the type
of play out there to make a reasonable decision on the
height of such a netting system.
Cross asked if there would be any play equipment there this
summer. Thompson said they intend to provide some as soon
as possible.
MOTION: Vanderploeg moved, seconded by Lynch, to recommend
approval of the Forest Hills Elementary School playground
site plan per staff recommendation in the May 15th memo,
with the condition that there be additional study on the
impact of foul balls and that a netting system be installed
if it is determined that such a precaution is necessary.
Motion carried 6-0.
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Eden Lake Townhouses
Refer to memos dated May 14, 1992 from Bob Lambert, May 8,
1992 from Donald Uram, Planner, and May 7 , 1992 , from Mary
Krause, Project Engineer.
Lambert introduced Jack Brandt , representing Hartford
( Investments , Inc.
Brandt noted that they involved the neighbors in the ?
planning and that many of the neighbors' suggestions and
concerns have been dealt with in this development proposal .
He said they are planning to dedicate approximately 4. 3
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acres in lieu of cash park fees . He displayed a site plan
showing the proposed parkland and the building elevations.
Lambert asked if they are planning to include a loop trail .
Brian Lubben of Hartford Investments, Inc. said they will if
the Commission feels it is necessary.
Lambert said City staff feels this is a great proposal . He
said they have agreed to take land in lieu of cash park fees
because it will be 4 .3 acres of preserved land in the Major
Center Area and will provide connections to Outlot D and to
the Eden Lake School Park.
Vanderploeg asked what is the total acreage of Outlots A and
D and the School Park. Lambert said it is about 45 acres
counting the lake.
Vanderploeg then asked how deep the lake is and if it would
be a place to canoe. Lambert said it is a man-made lake
designed to handle storm water drainage from the M.C.A. He
said the water quality is poor and would not provide high
traffic canoeing possibilities .
Richard asked if the developer would put in the trail .
Lambert said they are asking them to put in the loop trail
in Outlot A whether there is a connection to Outlot D or
not .
On call for comments from the audience, Tom Walters , 12490
Porcupine Court, said he would like to know where the
proposed trails would be located and where the proposed
canoe launch might be. After the general location proposed i
for the trail was pointed out to him, Mr. Walters said that
it would be very close to his property line and he would
prefer to see it located closer to the lake. Lambert
replied that there would be no problem locating it close to
the lake provided that location is dry enough.
Richard asked if staff was going to recommend putting the
entire trail in. Lambert replied that the City does not
even own Outlot D at this time, but we have planned to get
it for park purposes since 1976.
Kracum asked who owns Outlot D. Lambert replied that there
is a bankruptcy situation and that the we may end up getting
it through tax forfeiture.
Hildgeman asked for a clarification of the recommendation.
Lambert said the recommendation is that the developer follow
his commitment to dedicate property in lieu of $33 ,000 in
cash park fees , to construct a loop trail in Outlot A and to
provide a six-car parking lot in Outlot A.
Kube-Harderwijk asked how far into the hill the grading
would occur. Lubben said they intend to put in one
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slope that is there.
Richard asked if staff is comfortable with the tree
replacement. Cross said they are.
MOTION: Richard moved, seconded by Kracum, to recommend
approval of the Eden Lake Townhomes development , subject to
the conditions outlined in the Staff Reports of May 7 , May 8
and May 14 , 1992 , and to accept the dedication of Outlot A
in lieu of cash park fees with the understanding that the
developer will construct a loop trail and a six-car parking
lot in Outlot A. Motion carried 6-0.
B . RdQn Creek Addition
Refer to memo dated May 8 , 1992 from Donald Uram, Planner .
Jeff Schoenwetter, representing J.M.S. Development, Inc. ,
reviewed the single family development proposed for the
site. He said they are concerned about who would maintain
the one-acre dedicated area adjacent to Purgatory Creek.
Lambert said that , because this piece of land is so small
and isolated, staff has recommended that it be considered a 4
scenic easement so that it can be left in its natural
condition.
Richard asked if this would be done in lieu of cash park
fees . Lambert said it would not.
Richard asked why the development didn' t work the first time
around. Schoenwetter said his company decided to forego the
development when they realized that the amount of land
involved was considerably less than originally anticipated.
He said that the property was sold and the new owners will
retain just one lot with the house on it .
A discussion followed regarding the trailway construction on
the property and the upgrading of County Road 4.
Lynch asked what they are doing with the wetland lots.
Schoenwetter said they expect to move the area slightly and
reshape it . Cross said the amount involved is about 1/10 of
an acre.
MOTION: Lynch moved, seconded by Vanderploeg, to recommend
approval of the Eden Creek Addition, subject to the
recommendations of the staff memo of May 8 .
After discussion it was determined that language should be
( added to cover the scenic easement .
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AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION: With the approval of Vanderploeg,
Lynch amended her motion to specify that the area shown as
Outlot A will be a scenic easement granted by the developer
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to the City, with ownership to be divided between the future
owners of lots 5, 6,7 and 8 .
VOTE ON THE MOTION: Motion carried 6-0 .
VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION: Motion carried 6-0.
C. G.E. Capital Fleet Services . Inc.
Refer to the memo of April 24. 1992 from Donald Uram,
Planner and May 14, 1992 from Barbara Cross, Landscape
Architect .
Cross said proponent has revised their plans and introduced
Judy Brinkhouse of G.E. Capital Fleet Services , Inc .
Brinkhouse reviewed the plan revisions and noted that the
200-foot setback will require the granting of variances .
She said they held a meeting with the neighbors to the east
of the property and that they are all in agreement with the
revised plan.
Lynch asked how they plan to maintain the meadow.
Brinkhouse said it will be planted in native prairie grass,
and it will be maintained by a company that specializes in
that .
A discussion followed regarding the conservation easement
recommended for the property. Lambert said that filing an
easement is the only way to ensure continuation of control .
Richard suggested that proponent discuss the project with
the Prairie Restoration Committee at the High School and
possibly get that group involved with this project as a
cooperative effort .
MOTION: Hildgeman moved, seconded by Lynch, to recommend
approval of the request by G.E. Capital for a recreational
facility, subject to the recommendations of the April 24 and
May 14 memos, and subject to the following conditions :
proponent to implement prairie grass restoration of the
grassy meadow; no lighting of the proposed facility; the
receipt of a variance by the Board of Appeals and
Adjustments for shoreland setback; and the filing of a
conservation easement for the property. Motion carried 6-0.
VI . OLD BUSINESS
A. Trgypina Committee Report
Lynch said the committee will review the final draft before
it goes to staff and City Attorney Pauly for suggestions .
She said the committee will then inccrporate staff 's
suggestions into a a final recommendation to the Commission,
with the final version coming back to the Commission by the
end of June.
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Kube-Harderwijk asked if it would have any effect on a
homeowner who wanted to trap moles or gophers on their
property. Lynch said such a situation would be exclud-:d
from the regulations.
Vanderploeg asked if they are talking about trapping in
other parts of the City as well as the Minnesota River
bluffs . Lynch said that, per the Commission's request, they
have looked at the whole City and have designated about 93%
of the land as off limits to trapping .
VII . NEW BUSINESS
A. Recommendation to Award Bid for Construction of 2nd Ice Rink
at Community Center
B. Recommendation Recaardinq Authorizing Funding and
Construction of Entry at Community Center
Refer to the memo dated May 15, 1992 from Bob Lambert,
Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources .
Lambert said the low bidder from the 15 bids received on May
14th was Shingobee Builders . He said City Attorney Pauly ' s
initial review of the bid indicates that we will be able to
use them despite their not including a list of
subcontractors with their bid.
Hildgeman asked whether we would get into trouble with
E.C. I . Lambert said E.C. I . would still not be the low
bidder even if Shingobee was eliminated.
Lambert said the costs for the Community Center addition,
the improvements to the Community Center entry, the costs to
enlarge the parking lot and the costs to sell the bonds will
total $2 ,357 ,244 . He said staff is suggesting using cash
park fees or the $60, 000 budgeted for construction of a
trail along the abandoned railroad that will now be built by
Hennepin Parks in order to stay within the $2 . 3 million
budget .
Lynch asked if the trail that Hennepin Parks is proposing
for the railroad will allow horseback riding. Lambert said
it will be pedestrians and bicyclists only. A discussion
followed regarding Hennepin County's plans for that trail
and the alternative plans for providing horseback-riding
trails .
MOTION: Kube-Harderwijk moved, seconded by Lynch, to
recommend acceptance of the bid from Shingobee Builders for
the construction of the Community Center Addition/Second Ice
Rink. Motion carried 6-0.
MOTION: Kube-Harderwijk moved, seconded by Hildgeman, to
recommend completion of plans and specifications for the
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revised entry and the parking lot at the Community Center
and to recommend that , if additional funds are required,
they come from the funds previously budgeted for the
abandoned railroad trail . Motion carried 6-0 .
C. Dates for Tours
Richard said Councilmember Anderson had discussed a bike
tour in the northern part of Eden Prairie with the
Possibility of a tour to Miller Park and Riley Lake. He
said they would like the bike tour to include the trail in
Minnetonka where they have built a trail within the marsh
and to see how it connects to the Eden Prairie trail system.
After discussion of possible dates and times, the Commission
decided on June 22nd at 6 :00 PM, subject to confirmation
with Councilmember Anderson.
Cross suggested that Commissioners might like to tour the
Purgatory Creek valley where the new trail is going to go.
Lambert said the three parks could be visited in one tour .
The Commission decided on July 6th at 6:00 PM for the park
tour with an 8 :00 PM meeting time after the tour .
D. Miller Park Landscap;na
Richard said he would like to set up a program to allow
people to donate money to buy landscaping. Hildgeman said
she had brought this subject up before and had received a
cold reception from the City regarding private donations
because of some problems with liability and other factors .
Lambert said Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation Services ,
is working on a donations catalogue that will have a list of
procedures and items that can be donated with their cost .
He said donors can designate which park or other location
the item can be put in.
Richard said he would like to see some discussion and input
to the planning of landscaping features during the early
stages of the Miller Park development .
A discussion followed regarding how groups and individuals
could be encouraged to donate landscaping items .
VIII . REPORTS OF CO MISSIONERS; AND STAFF
There were no reports .
IX. REPORTS OF CITY COUN IL
There were no reports .
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MOTION; Lynch moved, seconded by Vanderploeg, to adjourn the
meeting at 9: 25 PM.
9Re ectfully submitted,
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anice C. Nelson
Recording Secretary
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