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EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, JANUARY 6, 1992 7:30 P. M., CITY HALL
7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Paul Karpinko,
Joanne Kube-Harderwijk, David Kuechenmeister, Diane
Popovich Lynch, Del Vanderploeg
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources; Barbara Penning Cross, Landscape
Architect; Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural
Resources; Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation
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I. ROLL CALL
IL APPROVAL OF A ENDA
APPROVAL OF MINUTES DE FMB R 16. 1991
IV. OLD BUSINESS
A. Implementati Wildlife Manage•++pnt
December 16, 19911
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. Tax Forfeited Lands
B. Discussion on pg Hold Traps
C. Review ent Financing Projects
D. Request for S.,Aerial Council Meeting with Parks Recreation and-Natural
Resources Commission
VI. ADJOURNME
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APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
Monday, January 6, 1992 7:30 p.m. , City Hall
7600 Executive Drive
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman,
Paul Karpinko, Joanne
Kube-Haderwijk, Diane Popovich
Lynch, Del Vanderploeg (late)
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: David Kuechenmeister
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Parks,
Recreation and Natural Resources ;
Stu Fox, Manager of Parks and
Natural Resources
I . ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7: 30 p.m. by Chair,
Pat Richard.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Lynch moved to approve the agenda as printed.
Kube-Harderwijk seconded the motion and it passed 5-6.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - DECEMBER 16, 1991
Richard noted that the motion in Paragraph 9 , Page 4 should
include the payment of cash park fees.
MOTION: Lynch moved to approve the minutes as amended.
Kube-Harderwijk seconded the motion and it passed 5-0.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
A. Implementation Procedures for Wildlife Management Plan
(cont. from December 16 , 1991)
Refer to memo dated December 17 , 1991 from Stu Fox,
Manager of Parks and Natural Resources.
This is an information item only.
Corrected copies of the resolution and wildlife management
request form were included in the packets. The plan
has been approved by the City Council.
Lynch suggested that the Environmental Cities Coalition
be made aware of the plan that has been adopted by
the City of Eden Prairie.
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A. Tax Forfeited Lands
Refer to memo dated December 31, 1991 from Stu Fox,
Manager of Parks and Natural Resources.
Lambert said that a list of tax forfeited lands is
received from the County at the end of the year. The
County has the right to distribute the land to the
City, County or State if it is needed for parks, open
space, road right-of-way or conservation purposes.
There are five parcels on this list this year. Staff
recommends that the City acquire three of the parcels.
Fox said that the first two parcels are garage units
at Village Greens Condominiums. Staff is recommending
that these parcels go back for sale to adjacent property
owners only. One parcel is adjacent to the Purgatory
Creek area and the another is located at the corner
of Preserve Blvd. and Anderson Lakes Parkway. This
parcel was planned as a lot, but because of poor soils
it was not developed. This parcel could be used for
road right-of-way or a park in the future. The last
parcel is in the Purgatory Creek area south of County
Road 1. The City understood that this parcel was to
be gifted to the City by the developer, but this has
not occurred. The parcel adjoins other City property.
Richard asked if Hustad Development owns Parcel 5.
Lambert said that the developer acquires land differently
than some other developers and this parcel may have
been purchased under a contract for deed and evidently
went to tax forfeit before it could be gifted to the
City.
Bowman asked if the City will incur any other costs
in acquiring these parcels. Lambert said no. The
only cost involved would be for attorney fees if someone
else wants to claim title to the land.
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MOTION: Kube-Harderwijk moved to recommend approval I
of Resolution 92-12 to acquire Parcels 3, 4 and 5.
Lynch seconded the motion and it passed 5-0.
B. Discussion on Leg Hold Traps
Refer to memo dated January 2, 1992 from Stu Fox, Manager
of Parks and Natural Resources.
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Lambert said that this issue is being discussed since
Dick Anderson read an article which referred to leg
hold traps being used in Eden Prairie. Lambert added
that these traps are not allowed in City parks except
when they are used by staff for pest problems. Other
uses are permitted by permit only as outlined under
state law.
Lambert said he recalls only one complaint about 10
years ago when a dog was caught in a leg hold trap
near Purgatory Creek.
`.4 . Fox said that state law states that a trap can be used
to trap any small fur-bearing animal on your property
if they are causing damage. Live traps have been used
to trap beavers with not much success. Leg hold traps
are used in conservation areas for gophers, beavers
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and muscrats.
Lynch said she was surprised to read the article and
that Eden Prairie is one of the few cities that still js
allows the use of leg hold traps. She contacted the
Humane Society who does not take a position on the
traps. They did mention another trapping option which ,
captures the animal so it cannot escape and drowns
it in 8-12 minutes. The Humane Society feels that
kill traps are more preferable.
Bowman said that there are two issues involved which
are animal rights and what the City is advocating by
being one of the few cities that is allowing the use
' of this type of trap. He asked if private property
owners can use any type of trap at any time. Fox said
yes.
Fox added that he has not had the opportunity to check
with surrounding communities on what their position
is.
Bowman asked what keeps people from trapping deer or
Canadian geese. Lambert said they are protected under
state law.
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Lynch said if an individual traps an animal, are they
required to turn it over to the DNR if it is a protected
species. Fox said yes.
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Fox added that raccoons and muscrats are fairly simple
to live trap and that the animal control officer can
advise people on the procedure to use.
Lambert said that another issue to consider is the
people who depend on trapping muscrats as income.
They would need to be notified if the use of leg hold
traps was eliminated.
Bowman said he would like to see the article that is
being referred to and also to find out what surrounding
communities policies are.
W Lambert suggested contacting a trapper and animal control
officer to come to a meeting and explain the other
side of the issue. He agreed to bring this issue back
to the Commission with additional information.
C. Review List of Tax Increment Financing Projects
Refer to memo dated January 2, 1992 from Bob Lambert,
Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources.
Lambert said that the City Council has been reviewing !'
requests recommended for tax increment funding. They
have asked the Commission to add any areas they feel
should be included on the list so these can also be
reviewed.
Parks and recreation related improvements already on
the list are sidewalk and trail completion in the
southwest quadrant of the ring road along Prairie Center
Drive between Hwy. 169 and S. 78th St. , a trail around
the perimeter of Lake Idlewild and a sidewalk along
the east side of Topview Road between Roberts Drive
and Valley View Road.
Lambert said the Commission may want to consider the
acquisition of 1-2 acres of land along Lake Idlewild
for a public park and providing additional funds for
streetscaping and connections along Technology Drive
from Prairie Center Drive to Mitchell Road. Lambert
feels that this connection will be very important if.
City Hall and the Government Center are located either
at the CPT building or at Technology Drive and Mitchell
Road.
Lambert told the Commission to keep in mind that as
things are added to -the list, others would need to
be removed.
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Richard asked how much money is available and is more
coming in or is interest just added on to the exisiting
amount. Lambert said that there is actually less money
than originally thought because of the lower interest
rates. He said that there is approximately $9 million
in this fund.
Richard asked if some of the money has already been
spent or when will it begin. Lambert said that some
money has already been committed for several projects.
Bowman asked if the list from Gene Dietz included in
the packets has already been earmarked for funding.
Lambert said that this list was compiled by the Tax
Increment Financing Committee along with Gene Dietz.
Richard said he feels that funding for items such as
roads would come out of another fund and that this
money should be used for amenities such as landscaping,
park equipment, etc.
Lambert said that sometimes tax in
crement funding is i
used as an incentive for development. For example,
funding the extension of Columbine Road through the
Wal-Mart property was an incentive for Wal-Mart to
bring their business into Eden Prairie.
Bowman asked how long it will take for Wal-Mart to
pay off the tax increment funds that were used and
why can't the funds be taken back for park related
uses. Lambert said this is a decision that is made
at the City Council level and he wasn 't sure on the
proposed length of time the payback was; however, it
is usually less than the eight years allowed.
MOTION: Richard moved to recommend approval of the
four improvements as included on the list for tax
increment funding with the addition of the two recommended
by staff if there is the ability to do so. Karpinko
seconded the motion and it passed 6-0.
Richard asked if there would be a better location for
the water tower other than in the major center area.
Lambert said that it needs to serve the major center
area and there is not much choice as to another location
although staff is recommending that it be made as
attractive as possible.
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D. Request for Special Council Meeting with Parks, Recreation
and Natural Resources Commission
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Refer to memo dated December 20 , 1991 from Bob Lambert,
Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources t
Commission.
Lambert said that he is requesting a special meeting
with the Commission and City Council on Tuesday, January
14 to discuss a spring park bond referendum. A decision
needs to be made about a referendum in February and
there will not be a regular Commission meeting on January
20 because it is a holiday.
The Parks and Recreation Facility Needs Assessment
Committee will be meeting on Wednesday, January 8.
Lambert has not seen any strong leadership coming from
this group to date and feels that if the Commission
and City Council are not willing to support and lead
a referendum effort, it should be postponed.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
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MOTION: Karpinko moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:55 p.m.
Kube-Harderwijk seconded the motion and it passed 6-0.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lois Boettcher
Recording Secretary
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL
PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
TUESDAY, JANUARY 14, 1992 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE
COUNCILMEMBERS: Mayor Douglas Tenpas, Richard Anderson, Jean Harris,
H. Martin Jessen, Patricia Pidcock
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Richard, Chair; Bruce Bowman, Paul Karpinko,Joanne
Kube-Harderwijk, David Kuechenmeister, Diane Popovich
Lynch, Del Vanderploeg
STAFF: Carl Jullie, City Manager; Craig Dawson, Assistant to City
Manager; Robert Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation
and Natural Resources; Roberta Wick, Recording Secretary
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
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I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. REVIEW OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARK AND RECREATION
FACILITY NEEDS ASo"ESSMENT COMMITTEE
A. Review and Approve Priorities of Proiects and Funding Sources
B. Review Neighborhood Park Options to Serve Southwest Eden Prairie
C. 1992 Park Bond Referendum
1. Timing
2. Leadership Roles
III. DISCUSS TIMING FOR ICE RINK Ar'%r% N
IV. DISCUSS TIMING nF RES]DENTIAL OUALITY OF LIFE SURVEY
V. ADJOURNMENT
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