HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 11/19/1990 1990
NOVEMBER 19
MINUTES
CITY OP EDEN PRAIRIE
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C AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 1990 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL
•' 7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Raiford Baker, Chairperson; Karon Joyer. , Paul
Karpinko, David Kuechenmeis'ter, Pat Richard,
Del Vanderploeg
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks,
Recreation and Natural Resources
7:30 I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - OCTOBER 15, 1990
7:35 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
1. Request from Brian Doten of Wooddale Church
Regarding use of Skating Rinks
2. Request to Flood Skating Rink at Franlo Park
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
None
7:45 VI. OLD BUSINESS
1. Display of Community Center Portraits
VII. NEW BUSINESS
None
8:00 VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Manager of Parks & Natural
Resources
1. Res 90-273 Condemning Trail Easement
East of Larkspur Lane
B. Reports of Landscape Architect
1. Update on Playground Equipment for
Carmel Park
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C. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services
1. Eden Prairie Junior Tennis Program
2. Recommendation for Purchase and
Installation of New Starting Platforms
3. 1990 Eden Prairie Athletic Association
Appreciation Dinner
4. Season Ending,Reports
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a. Adult Tennis Sprina 1990
b. Men's 5-Man Basketball - 1989-90
c. Men's 3-Man Basketball - Suring 1990
d. Co-Rec Volleyball winter 1990
e. Sand Volleyball - Summer 1990
f. Doubles Horseshoe - 1990
g. Senior Men's Hockey-- Spring 1990
h. Senior Men's Hockey - Summer 1990
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8:15 IX. REPORTS OF CITY COUNCIL
1. City Manager's Update - October 19 & 26 1990
2. Council Meeting Update November 13 1990
8:20 X. ADJOURNMENT
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EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION & NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
Monday, November 19, 1990 7:30 p.m. , City Hall
7600 Executive Drive
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Bud Baker, chairperson;
David Kuechenmeister, Pat
Richard, Del Vanderploeg
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Karon Joyer, Paul Karpinko
COt4MISSTON STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of
Parks, Recreation & Natural
Resources, Laurie Helling,
Manager of Recreation Services
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m, bhi
Bud Baker. y chairperson,
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II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Lambert added B. Minnesota Wildlife Refuge and Recreation
Area under VI. Old Business and 1. Status of Jacques Farm
�. Barn at Riley Lake Park under VIII. D. Reports of Director
of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources.
Baker added 2. Chamber of Commerce Developers Forum under
B. Reports of Landscape Architect.
MOTION: Richard moved to approve the agenda as amended.
Vanderploeg seconded the motion and it passed 4-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - OCTOBER 15, 1990
Julia McFadden asked that the last paragraph on Page 5
be corrected to read, " , . .from 7:30-8 : 30 p.m. "
MOTION: Vanderploeg moved to approve the minutes as amended.
Kuechenmeister seconded the motion and it passed 4-0.
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. Request from Brian Doten of Wooddale Church Regardinq
Use of Skatina Rinks
Refer to memo dated November 10, 1990 from Lyndell
Frey, Recreation Supervisor.
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Lambert: said that the City received a request from
Wooddale Church to use two skating rinks at Round Lake
Park on February 8 from 7:00-10:00 p.m, for an adult
broomball tournament. They were told that it has been
the policy to have one rink open for public use.
MOTION: Richard moved to agree with staff 's recommendation
to allow Wooddale Church to use one rink at Round Lake ):
Park and one at Edenvale Park for their broomball
tournament. Kuechenmeister seconded the motion.
On call for discussion, Baker suggested that a sign
be put up at Edenvale Park informing the public where
there are other open rinks in the area.
The motion passed 4-0.
B. Request to Flood Skatinq Rink at Franlo Park
Refer to memo dated November 15, 1990 from Laurie Helling,
C Manager of Recreation Services.
Lambert said that the City received a request to flood
the area outside the left field fence of the baseball
field at Franlo Park. This would not normally be allowed,
as flooding would damage the grass but since this area
won 't be seeded until spring, staff is recommending
approval for a one year period. Lambert added that
Stu Fox will meet with the resident explaining the
area which can be flooded and what is involved.
Richard asked if the City could flood an area for skating
at Franlo Park. Lambert said there has been only one
request to do this.
Kuechenmeister asked about using storm water retention
ponds. Lambert said there were 23 skating rinks in
the City at one time which saw very little usage because
of the lack of warming house facilities. The City
received many complaints about the quality of ice on
these skating rinks.
This is an information item only.
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
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VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Display of Community Center Portraits
Helling said this item was continued from the last
meeting, as some of the commission members expressed
concerns that the photos would be shot .in a studio
and not on location, the portraits would be passive
vs. active and how the .individuals would be selected
to represent each athletic association. Michael
Moschogianis is a portrait photographer and after checking
with several other photographers in the area, Helling
said his offer is the best she could find.
Richard commented that most photographers are interested
in studio photography and he suggested that the athletic
associations could sponsor a contest and fund it
themselves.
Baker said he feels we should take advantage of the
offer and said it might be a starting point for action
shots in the future.
Vanderploeg asked if the Community Center allows other
teams to display banners, trophies, etc. Helling said
that the Foxjets and the Hockey Association are allowed
to display their banners because they use the Community
Center facilities.
Lambert said he feels that if any kind of display is
done, it should be on a white background and action
photos. He added that portraits would not promote
the activity, but rather an individual. He also cautioned
Commission members to give careful thought prior to
approving any request for covering walls at the Community
Center.
MOTION: Kuechenmeister moved to recommend that portraits
not be displayed at the Community Center. Richard
seconded the motion and it passed 4-0.
B. Minnesota Wildlife Refuge and Recreation Area
Baker said that Dick Anderson asked for a written plan
for this area similar to the one that was done for
the Purgatory Creek Recreation Area.
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Lambert said that he has been looking for a decision
on the trail connection. This is a low priority item
for the City at this time. Both the DNR and the• Fish
and Wildlife Association were contacted regarding their
interest. The DNR was not interested. The area is
currently being used by Sever Peterson to move farm
equipment on his property and is also used by the Gun
Club on the access road. A trail easement is being
discussed and' construction of a trail is being encouraged.
Lambert added that this is also the only area in Eden
Prairie where shooting is still allowed. Hunting deer
with shotgun slugs adjacent to a bike and pedestrian
trail would be a cause for concern. Lambert said that
the issue of protection .of the Minnesota River bluffs was given to the Planning staff. They are reviewing
the ordinance and will develop a proposal.
Baker asked about the possibility of getting the state
to construct the trail on Eden Prairie' s side of the
river. Lambert said this will not happen. The trail
connection through Valleyfair, Murphy' s Landing and
in Savage will be approved. Construction should be
completed by the end of next year.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
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VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Manager of Parks & Natural Resources
1. Res. 90-273 Condemning Trail Easement East of Larkspur
Lane
Refer to memo dated October 30, 1990 from Stu Fox,
Manager of Parks and Natural Resources.
The resolution was approved by the City Council.
This is an information item only.
B. Reports of Landscape Architect
1. Update on Playground Equipment at Carmel Park
Refer to memo dated November 14, 1990 from Barb
Cross, Landscape Architect.
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Lambert said that Cross met with the residents
to discuss different types of playground equipment
that was available. The residents chose a smaller
play area with a traditional structure, additional
swing set and picnic area.
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2. Chamber of Commerce Developers Forum
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Baker said that an urban design director was present
at the Chamber of Commerce Developers Forum. He
asked for Lambert's comments.
Lambert felt that, in his opinion, the speaker
had no valuable information to share.
C. Reports of Manager of Recreation Services
1. Eden Prairie Junior Tennis Program
An article appeared in the November issue of Tennis
USIA. This is an information item only.
2. Recommendation for Purchase and Installation of
New Starting Platforms
Refer -to memo dated November 14, 1990 from Julia
McFadden, Recreation Supervisor for Aquatics and
Fitness.
Lambert said that the starting platforms at the
Community Center do not conform with two new rulings
which are that the platforms must be removable
and are not to be raised more than 18 inches above
the water surface. The present platforms are
permanently mounted and are too high.
Baker asked how many people have been injured because
of starting platforms. McFadden said she knows
of three severe accidents in the last school year
in the United States.
MOTION: Richard moved to recommend approval to
purchase new starting platforms at the Community
Center from Valley View Associates at a cost of
$10,290 per staff recommendation Vanderploeg seconded
the motion and it passed 4-0.
McFadden added that there should be money left
in the 1990 budget to purchase the platforms.
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3. 1990 Eden Prairie Athletic Associations Appreciation
Dinner
Helling reported that 163 people were invited to
the dinner and 66 attended. Various businesses
in the community donated door prizes for the event.
Cost was approximately $1500 or $152 for each
association. This was the second year the dinner
was held.
4 . Season Ending Reports
a. Adult Tennis - Spring 1990
b. Men' s 5 Man Basketball - 1989-90
C. Men' s 3 Man Basketball 1989-90
d. Co-Rec Volleyball - Winter 1990
e. Sand Volleyball - Summer 1990
f. Doubles Horseshoe - 1990
g. Senior Men' s Hockey - Spring 1990
h. Senior Men' s' Hockey - Summer 1990
These are information items only.
D. Reports of Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural
Resources
1. Status of Jacques Farm Barn at Riley Lake Park
Lambert said the old Riley homestead which was
acquired by the City includes a barn. The upper
walls and roof of the barn are in very poor condition.
The Building Inspection Department looked at the
barn and felt that an architect and structural
engineer would charge over $100,000 to correct
the problems. Staff is trying to locate someone
who is interested in doing this type of work and
will bring a quote back to the commission at a
future meeting.
Baker asked why the City wants to preserve the
barn. Lambert said it is considered a historic
site and is the only historic "farm site" the City
intends to acquire and preserve.
Kuechenmeister asked if federal or state funding
is available to assist with repair costs. Lambert
( said it is unlikely.
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ix. REPORTS OF CITY COUNCIL
A. CitV Mana er' s Update - October 19 & 26 , 1990
These are information items only.
B. Council Meeting Update - November 13 , 1990
Lambert reported that the City Council approved the .,f
trail connection, revised pool schedule, figure skating
open patch proposal and the petition from residents
of the Ridge. The developer will accept $13,000 for
an easement to provide a concrete sidewalk between
two lots. This sidewalk will provide more direct access
to the trail from this neighborhood.
X. ADJOURNMENT �
MOTION: Richerd moved secondedothe adjourn
motionthe
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passed94-0 .p.m•
Kuechenmel.st ,
Respectfully submitted,
Lois Boettcher
Recording Secretary
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