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AGENDA
C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 1988 8:00 P. M. CITY HALL
7600 EXECUTIVE DRIVE
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson ; Raiford
Baker, Moe Cook , Karon Joyer , Brian
Mikkelson, Pat Richard, Charles Shaw
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Parks, Recreation & Natural
Resources
6:30 P. N. SPECIAL MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION RE: SOUTHWEST AREA STUDY
8:00 I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - AUGUST 15, 1988
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS & COMMUNICATIONS
8:05 Letter From Duane Janikula Re: Staring Lake Park Plan
V. DEVELOPMENT PLANS
8:10 A. Chestnut Place Neighborhood Commercial Center s
8:25 B. Fairfield Phase 2-6
VI. OLD BUSINESS
8:40 Acquisition of Access Site for Purgatory Creek Recreation
Area
VII. NEW BUSINESS
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VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Environmental Services Manager
8:45 Rules & Regulations on Pleasant Hills Cemetery
B. Reports of Recreation Supervisors
8:50 1. Community Center Monthly Report
8:55 2. Review of Riley Lake Park Usage_ - Summer 1988_
C. Reports of Athletic Coordinator
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9:05 Sand Volleyball - Summer 1988
9:10 IX. REPORT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 6, 1988
9:15 X. ADJOURNMENT
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APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
Monday, September 19, 1988 8:00 p.m., City Hall
7600 Executive Drive
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Bud Baker, acting chairperson;
Moe Cook, Pat Richard,
Charles Shaw
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Pat Breitenstein, Brian Mikkelson,
Karon Joyer
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Parks,
Recreation and Natural Resources,
Barb Cross, Landscape Architect
I. ROLL CALL
• The meeting was called to order at 8:00 p.m. by acting chairperson,
Bud Baker. .
11. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
There were no additions to the agenda.
Ill. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 15, 1988 r
MOTION: Cook moved to approve the minutes as printed. Richard
seconded the motion and it passed 4-0.
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. Letter from Duane Janikula Re: Staring Lake Park Plan
Refer to memo dated August 31, 1988 from Bob Lambert,
Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources.
Lambert said this property is directly west of the fly-out
zone of the north runway at Flying Cloud Airport. The
City discussed with Mr. Janikula his Illegal storage of property.
At that time, Mr. Janikula asked the City about development
potential and was told this area would be used for parks
in the future. The property is now for sale and the City
is interested in purchasing it. An appraiser has been hired
and his report will be brought to this commission at the
October 4 meeting. No action is required at this point.
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Shaw asked if there is a risk that someone else will purchase
this property and use if for another purpose. Lambert
said yes.
V. DEVELOPMENT PLANS
A. Chestnut Place Neighborhood Commercial Center
Refer to planning staff report dated August 19, 1988 and
memo dated September 15, 1988 from Barbara Cross, Landscape
Architect.
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Brian Cluts was at the meeting representing Chestnut Place
Partners. The site is located at the intersection of Chestnut
Drive and Anderson Lakes Parkway. This is mainly a multi-family
neighborhood and It is expected that one-half the traffic
into this center will be pedestrian. The plan Is for a convenience
stores with gas pumps, a Vietnamese restaurant and perhaps
a video store and dry cleaners. Several revisions have
been made to the plan in the past week.
Cross said the plan was approved by the Planning Commission.
The pedestrian system is already in place. A concern the
Planning Commission had was that vehicle traffic and pedestrian
traffic would conflict. The developer has added a sidewalk
in the south parking lot and two sidewalks off Anderson
Lakes Parkway trail. Since the site is flat, minimal grading
will be necessary and there are no significant trees on the
site although the developer will be providing 126 caliper
inches of plant material as required.
MOTION: Cook moved to approve Chestnut Place Neighborhood
o�ercial Center per staff recommendation. Shaw seconded
the motion and it passed 4-0.
B. Fairfield Phases 2-6
Refer to planning staff report dated August 19, 1988.
Phase 1 of this project was reviewed at the July 18 meeting.
The developer is now asking for approval on Phases 2-6.
They are asking for concept plan approval and guide plan
change.
Richard asked if it will be difficult to change our minds
later if the concept plan is approved. Lambert said that
if there are any problems or concerns with the request,
now is the time to discuss it.
MOTION: Richard moved to recommend approval of Fairfield
Phase 2-6 per staff recommendation. Shaw seconded the
motion and It passed 4-0.
V1. OLD BUSINESS
A. Acquisition of Access Site for Purgatory Creek Recreation
Area
Refer to memo dated September 1, 1988 from Bob Lambert,
Director of Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources.
Lambert suggests that the north site consisting of 5.5 acres
would be the preferred site. The cost is $2.50 per square
foot or approximately $630,000.
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MOTION: Cook moved that after studying the Purgatory Creek
Recreation Area since 1982, the commission supports acquisition
of this property and development of this park in the future.
Richard seconded the motion and it passed 4-0.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
None
Vlll. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Environmental Services Manager
1 . Rules & Regulations on Pleasant Hills Cemetery
MOTION: A motion was made by Shaw to adopt the
Rules and Regulations on Pleasant Hills Cemetery. Cook
seconded the motion and it passed 4-0.
B. Reports of Recreation Supervisor
1 . Community Center Monthly Report
Refer to memo dated September 12, 1988 from Tom Eastman,
Supervisor of Operations.
This is an information item only.
Baker referred to several numbers listed under Operating
Expenses which do not agree. Lambert said he would
have them checked.
Tom's suggestions for reducing the deficit at the Community
Center include going to an on call basis for part time
staff whenenver possible and discontinuing turning
over the net profits from concessions during the holiday
hockey tournament to the Hockey Association.
2. Review of Riley Lake Park Usage - Summer 1988
Refer to memo dated September 2, 1988 from Jennifer
Dressen, Recreation Supervisor. This is an information
item only.
C. Reports of Athletic Coordinator
1 . Sand Volleyball - Summer 1988
This is an Information item only.
IX. REPORT OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 6, 1988
There was no report.
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X. ADJOURNMENT
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MOTION: Cook moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:25 p.m. Shaw i.
seconded the motion and it passed 4-0.
Respectfully submitted,
Lois Boettcher
Recording Secretary
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SPECIAL MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION
RE: SOUTHWEST AREA STUDY
Monday, September 19, 1988
6:30 p.m.
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The meeting began at 6:40 p.m. A presentation was made by
Don Brauer who is the coordinator for the Southwest Area Study
project. He is being assisted by Jim Benshoof and Steve Pellinen.
Mr. Brauer showed the location of subject area on an area map.
He said the area is almost all undeveloped at this time and Is
under the influence of several road systems. The area begins
within the City limits near Dell Road on Hwy. 5, down County
Roads 1 & 4, to the edge of Flying Cloud Airport to the west
portion of the City and back again and lies within the MUSA
(Metropolitan Urban Services Area). The MUSA line is determined
by the Metropolitan Council. The circles on the map represent
areas programmed for development and the squares represent
existing development. The map also showed projected sewer
and water lines and traffic projections. Brauer showed figures
both if the Hwy. 212-Dell Road interchange takes place or if
it does not. Before any development can be started in this
area, a water main loop needs to be connected and the intersection
at Heritage Road needs to be improved in addition to improvements
at Scenic Heights Road and Co. Rd 4 and an upgrade on three
intersections along Co. Rd. 1 and an upgrade of Co. Rd. 4.
For each section of the project, Brauer showed roadways, water
main location and drainage and sanitary sewer lines.
The following are questions from the group in attendance at
the meeting and Mr. Brauer's answers.
Q: Are there improvements planned for the intersection of Hwy.
5 & Co. Rd. 4? A: This upgrade is scheduled for completion
in 1990.
Q: Nothing south of Hwy. 5 was mentioned. Why? A: This
area is outside the MUSA line and not included in this study.
Q: Where does Hwy. 212 go from Eden Prairie? A: Hwy. 212
goes west of Chaska and connects with Hwy. 41 and Co. Rd.
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Q: When will it be determined where Hwy. 212 will be built?
A: It is in the final stages of the EIS (environmental impact
statement) .
Q: When will official mapping be approved by the City of Eden
Prairie? A: It should be done this fall.
Q: In the 2B area, the road shown coming off Pioneer Trail
does not exist. A: This Is only a platted street.
Q: You stated that the Dell Road and Hwy. 5 intersection upgrade
Is a pre-requisite to any development although the report states
that a maximum of 100 units can be built before this upgrade
needs to be done. A: I was referring to Improvements to the
Co. Rd 4 and Hwy. 5 intersection.
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CQ: Has any thought been given to upgrading the intersection
of Co. Rds. 4 & 1 earlier because of the school being built in this area? A: The City has officially asked the county to upgrade
Co. Rd. 4 at Co. Rd. 1 and Scenic Heights Road.
Q: When will the alignment of Dell Road be established? A:
It will be decided by the City and the developer.
Q: How were the number of units established in each area?
A: The guidelines are 2.14 units per acre inside the MUSA line
and 1 .5 units per acre outside the MUSA line.
Q: When Co. Rds. 1 & 4 are improved, are signals being considered,
as well as turn lanes? A: Yes.
Q: Who controls the decision on traffic lights? A: The county
makes the final decision.
Q: Is Chanhassen also holding back on development because of
the traffic problems on Hwy. 5? A: I do not believe so.
Brauer said the next phase of the study is discussing the assessment
of street costs. This will most likely be discussed at a City
Council meeting, but no date has been set.
Lambert asked if much thought has been given to extending
Riley Lake Road. Brauer said he feels this would be important,
but not essential.
Q: Has any decision been made for improving Hwy. 169 from
the airport to Co. Rd. 1? A: This project will go out for bids
in March of 1989.
Q: Is there any specific time when these areas will be developed?
A: We are only suggesting the order of development.
Q: Does the Williams Pipeline affect any of these plans? A:
There will not be as much density in those areas through which
the pipeline runs.
Q: Will there be any changes in the MUSA line? A: The study
did not take any changes into effect. The water main will be
constructed concurrent with developing Area 1A.
Brauer commented that there should be two outlets in Area IA
after there are 250 residents for safety reasons.
Q: Will the building of Cedar Ridge School depend on the construction
of the water line? A: Yes.
Q: Where will the lift station in 2B be built and when? A:
The lift will be constructed near the stream and up to Valley
Road.
Q: Does the area north of Valley Road require a lift station and
how deep is the sewer line? A: The sewer will be 60 feet deep
at Co. R d. 1 .
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Q: What is the status of athletic fields at Co. Rd. 1 and Eden
Prairie Road? A: (Lambert) This issue will be before the Parks
and Recreation Commission and Planning Commission in mid October.
Q: Would development at Flying Cloud Aiport have any effect
on this plan? A: The airport is looking at expanding the east-west:
runway and expanding to 300 hangars. There will be an open
forum in mid October to discuss this issue.
Bob Hallett said the following meetings will be held. November
2: Airports Commission Forum; November 7: Parks & Recreation
Commission; November 14: Planning Commission and November
15: City Council.
Q: Why would a runway be extended? A: For safety reasons.
Q: What is the next phase of the study? A: It will be reviewed
by the commissions, City Council and City staff and should be
before the Planning Commission at the October meeting. There
has already been action taken on the water mains on Co. Rds.
1 & 4, upgrading of Co. Rd. 4 at Hwy. 5 and upgrading of
Co. Rd. 1 .
Q: When sewer and water is added, who is assessed for this?
A: Those that benefit from it will be assessed.
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The meeting concluded at 7:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Lois Boettcher
Recording Secretary
Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Commission