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1986
OCTOBER 20
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CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, OCTOBER 20, 1986 7:30 P.M. SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION
BUILDING - BOARD ROOM
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Moe
Cook, Gary Gonyea, Karon Joyer, Brian Mikkelson,
Charles Shaw
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services
7:30 I. ROLL CALL
II. A?PROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 15, 1986
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
7:35 A. Research Farm 3rd Addition
7:45 B. Shady Oak Ridge 2nd Addition
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7:55 C. Super America
VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Commission Members
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B. Reports of Director of Community Services
8:00 Bond Referendum Committee Meeting of Sept. 23 and Oct. 9, 1986
8:05 C. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report
VII. OLD BUSINESS
Edenvale Trail Update
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
Outdoor Ice Use by Hockey Association of Eden Prairie
IX. ADJOURNMENT
APPROVED MINUTES
C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
Monday, October 20, 1986 7:30 p.m. , School Board Room
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson;
Bud Baker (late), Moe Cook,
Gary Gonyea, Karon Joyer
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Brian Mikkelson, Charles Shaw
COMMISSION STAFF: Stu Fox, City Forester;
Sandra Werts, Recreation
Supervisor; Lyndell Frye,
Recreation Supervisor
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by chairperson,
Pat Breitenstein.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
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MOTION: Joyer moved to approve the agenda as mailed. Cook seconded
the motion and it passed 4-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 1986 j
MOTION: Cook moved to approve the minutes as mailed. Joyer seconded
the motion and it passed 3-0. Gonyea abstained.
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None r
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Research Farm 3rd Addition i
Refer to memo dated October 14, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of ,
Community Services and staff report dated September 19, 1986. 1
Fox reviewed the proposal which is part of the old Northrup King a
site. The developer is requesting platting of 116 acres into one
lot and three outlots. The major reason is that the school has
purchased one lot.
Arlyn Grussing of the Douglas Corporation was present at the s
meeting. The school has purchased three acres as the site for a
new middle school and the Douglas Corporation's corporate
headquarters and factory will be located on the rest of the site.
The Douglas Corporation is the main supplier of name plates for
Ford and General Motors.
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Grussing indicated there would be office buildings along Hwy. 169
with the manufacturing facility and corporate headquarters located
in between. He added that there will be a substantial amount of
open space. Only 30 of the 65 acres will be developed. Grussing
said that the Douglas Corporation headquarters is currently located
at Washington and Valley View with other facilities in St. Louis
Park, Minneapolis and Bloomington.
Fox said that there have been no changes or additional grading
since the 2nd Addition was approved. The City is asking for
dedication of Outlot A for park purposes and a scenic easement on
the east side of the creek.
Grussing added that the school has reservations about the
dedication to the City, but they will agree to it. He also said
that Douglas prefers to delay the scenic easement unti). they begin
development.
Cook asked if there was a reference in the staff report to the
ownership of the Purgatory Creek area. Fox said it is yet to be
determined; however, there will be ownership west of the creek and
a scenic easement east of the creek.
CMOTION: Cook moved to recommend approval of Research Farm 3rd
A tion per staff report based on the establishment of a scenic
easement. Gonyea seconded the motion and it passed 4-0.
B. Shady Oak Ridge 2nd Addition
Refer to memo dated October 14, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of
Community Services and staff report dated September 19, 1986.
Fox said that this is an extension of Shady Oak Ridge 1st Addition
and is located south of that area. The main consideration is the
extensive amount of tree inventory. The developer will be required
to replace a substantial amount of caliper inches of trees and to
extend the sidewalk that is proposed along Shady Oak Road southward
to Rowland Road.
Cook asked if there are any alternatives to removing the large
amount of trees. Fox said that if any additional trees are lost,
they will have to be replaced by the developer.
Joyer asked if a snow fence is effective in marking grading limits.
Fox said it is better than putting ribbon on the trees and added
that grading will be closely supervised.
Cook said that erosion control during construction will be a
problem. Fox said that this is a condition of the staff
recommendation. ,j
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MOTION: Gonyea moved to .recommend approval of Shady Oak 2nd
AdUlto-n per staff report adding that special attention be paid
during the grading process that no major erosion occurs. Joyer
seconded the motion and it passed 5-0.
C. Super America
Refer to memo dated October 14, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of
Community Services and staff report dated October 3, 1986.
Fox reviewed the request for a comprehensive guide plan change from
fire station to commercial. The area is located on the old Prairie
Dairy site. The only parks, recreation and natural resources
concern is the loss of the current 81 trail. Part of the staff
recommendation is that the 8' asphalt trail be replaced.
Cook asked if there would be any problems with the bike path in
this location. Fox said there should not be a problem although the
developer will have to rework some of their berms to accommodate
it.
Cook asked if there would be an entrance to Super America off Hwy.
169. Fox said all entrances will be off Pioneer Trail.
Baker asked if kids will be able to cross Hwy. 169 easily on their
bikes. Fox said the trail is along the south side and they will
have to cross with the lights on both Co. Rd. 1 and Hwy. 169.
Baker said he feels the City Council should be able to see a
diagram of the trail with the new landscape plan. Fox said that
part of the staff recommendation states that the landscape plan
will be modified to indicate these changes.
MOTION: Baker moved to recommend approval of Super America per
staff report contingent upon the developer submitting a modified
landscape plan showing the location of an 81 asphalt trail. Gonyea
seconded the motion and it passed 5-0.
VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF
A. Reports of Commission Members
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None
B. Reports of Director of Community Services
1. Board Referendum Committee Meetings of Sept. 23 and Oct. 9
1986
This is an information item only.
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Fox said that the minutes of the Bond Referendum Committee
Meetings of both September 23 and October 9 were included in
the packets.
The main purpose of these meetings was to look at alternatives
and finalize costs. The original figure was $10 million.
Lambert recommended cutting back to a realistic figure. He
suggested trying to reduce the Community Center expansion from
$5 million to $3 million and Miller Park from $4.7 million to
$2.5 million for a total bond referendum of $6.5 million.
Cook said it should be noted that certain projects can be done
with park money instead of a bond referendum.
C. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report
This information was included in the packets and is for information
only.
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
A. Edenvale Trail Update
Refer to memo dated October 15, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of
Community Services.
Fox reported that there was an October 7 meeting with the City
Council. Five steps of action were taken: (1) It was recommended
that the City begin mowing along the top of the interceptor line
along the east side of the creek; (2) It was agreed that when the
City develops the open water marsh area as mitigation for Valley
View Road, a nature blind and access trail will be constructed.
Breitenstein asked if this rerouting would have an effect on the
golf course. Fox said no. (3) City staff will work with a
naturalist to study the marsh area on the west side of Purgatory
Creek and to develop a written program; (4) A decision on the
installation of a bridge at the end of Hillcrest Court was delayed;
(5) Continued the decision for the EAW request.
Cook asked for an update on the railroad crossing at Valley View.
Fox said that construction east of the railroad can be considered
Phase I and should be completed this fall or early next spring.
There is also an underpass for the golf course scheduled for
completion.
Baker asked about the impact on the Purgatory Creek marsh. Fox
said that the DNR and Watershed District are monitoring this
closely.
Baker requested that the Commission be updated on this at future
meetings.
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VIII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Outdoor Ice Use by Hockey Association of Eden Prairie
Refer to memo dated October 14, 1986 from Sandy Werts, Recreation
Supervisor.
Sandy Werts was present at the meeting to review the percent of ice
time reserved and used by the Hockey Association during the 1985-86
season. Attendance was based on an average of 66 days open along
with total hours open, ages of players, total and average daily
attendance. Werts said the attendance fluctuates. The season this
year was longer and the rinks had to be closed fewer times because
of weather. It was the first time Staring Lake was open on a daily
basis and the attendance here varied. Werts recommended that the
Staring Lake rink be closed Monday-Thursday and be open on Fridays
from 4-10, Saturdays from 10-10 and Sundays from 1-9.
Nine to 11 hours per week were reserved by the Hockey Association.
Hours reserved but not used ranged from 5 to 14%. About half of
the coaches called in to cancel. Werts said she received less
comments from the public this year.
The Preserve Rink is still a problem since the pond is not good for
skating. Werts added that there will be a rink at Homeward Hills
next season.
Baker commented on behalf of the Hockey Association. Since the
younger kids are scheduled early and the older kids later, it is
always the same ones that have to clear off the rink after a
snowfall. He asked if there is any mechanical equipment the Hockey
Association could purchase to clear off the rinks. Fox suggested
that a two stage snowblower would work well.
Baker asked what the schedule is for flooding and sweeping the
rinks. Werts said they usually start at Round Lake and The
Preserve is usually at the end of the line. Baker asked if it
could be done on a daily basis. Werts said they generally flood
every day.
Baker asked if they have considered doing it during the night.
Werts said it is done during the night on weekends. !
MOTION: Baker moved to recommend approval of the report. Joyer
seconded the motion.
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On call for discussion, Cook asked if the days the rinks are open
could be published. Werts said the rink attendant ;has the i
schedule. Cook felt that since there are so many new residents in
the area, it would be helpful to have it listed in the Eden Prairie
Happenings. The motion passed 5-0.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Baker moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:30 p.m. Joyer
se— coed the motion and it passed 5-0.
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Respectful`ly�submitted,
Lois Boettcher
Recording Secretary
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