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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 05/19/1986 1 t' I ` - - ,. . •.:r, � r� } { �) , w J t,+ r.{ !'t1L...e%.f4 ,. ,.'i ,.,iJ. F:A.7, .'}_i•:.i�,k�h'a+rineh,ynf�•r+rW e I 'I. 1986 ,r MAY S 19 MINUTES `1 CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE 'S,, n i{.•_ ;i-1.... � ., .. �.�:• .,t,r. �.,.ra,4 ?u' �...> ��,,11.y ,.a ..� i- •v: , , ,.. . is 4:. •i ( AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, MAY 5, 1986 7:30 P.M. SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION BUILDING - BOARD ROOM COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Moe Cook, Gary Gonyea, Karon Joyer, Brian Mikkelson, Charles Shaw COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - APRIL 7, 1986 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS 7:35 Sterling Field Association Request V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS 7:40 A. Hidden Glen 4th Addition C 8:00 B. Bluff Country PUD VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF 8:45 A. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report 1. Minnetonka Community Services Annual Report 8:50 B. City Council Meeting Report - April 13, 1986 V. OLD BUSINESS 8:55 Staring Lake Equestrian Trail VI. NEW BUSINESS 9:00 1985 Annual Report 9:15 VII. ADJOURNMENT APPROVED MINUTES C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, May 5, 1986 7:30 p.m. , School Board Room COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson; Bud Baker (late), Moe Cook, Gary Gonyea, Karon Joyer, Brian Mikkelson, Charles Shaw COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: None COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services OTHERS PRESENT: None I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by chairperson, Pat Breitenstein. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Cook moved to approve the agenda as mailed. Gonyea seconded Motion and it passed 6-0. III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - APRIL 7, 1986 C_. MOTION: Cook moved to approve the minutes as mailed. Mikkelson seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. Shaw and Joyer abstained. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Sterling Fields Association Request Refer to memo dated April 29, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and letter dated April 24, 1986 from Ron Stetter, President, Sterling Fields Association. Lambert referred to a letter he received from Ron Stetter, President of Sterling Fields Association. Lambert said that Sterling Park is the oldest park in the area and was started by the association itself. The City was asked to take over the park about two years ago and noticed that the playground equipment was deteriorating. The equipment was removed and the association was given equipment catalogs from which to choose new playground equipment. The City usually spends between $5,000 and $6,000 on equipment for this type of park. The association has picked out similar equipment to what they had. Staff recommends approval of the request. i APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION May 5, 1986 -2- Shaw asked how long it will take to install the new equipment. Lambert said the City must get two additional quotes which will take about two weeks and to order and install the equipment would take an additional ,six to eight weeks. Shaw said he feels the residents should be given an opportunity to look at the quotes before a decision is made so they are aware of what they will be getting. Lambert said this would not be a problem. Breitenstein commended the association for the many years they maintained the park. MOTION: Shaw moved to recommend approval of the Sterling Fields Association request that the City purchase new playground equipment for Sterling Park at a cost of $5,000 to $6,000. Cook seconded the motion and it passed 7-0. Cook asked if there are any signs showing that this is a community park. Lambert said there are no signs near any of the mini parks and he would hesitate to put up signs since the park is so small. CCook asked if there is room in this park for a ballfield. Lambert said there is a small field that could be used for T-ball only. However, there is no off street parking. V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Hidden Glen 4th Addition Refer to memo dated May 1, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and staff reports dated March 7, 1986 and April 11, 1986. Lambert reviewed the three parks, recreation and natural resources issues on this site. They are neighborhood park acquisition, Purgatory Creek conservation area acquisition, and trails and sidewalks. j Lambert said the Hidden Glen proposal first came before the commission in 1984 for the original PUD. At this time, the City agreed to purchase the neighborhood park on a contract for deed at a cost of $80,000 for eight acres. The developer also agreed to grade the park and finish grade the topsoil. This agreement has been held up because of the alignment of Dell Road and a decision on which assessments would be paid by the City or the developer. Staff recommends that the purchase agreement and contract for deed be completed before any further final platting is done. Lambert also said that in the original PUD, staff recommended the City require dedication of the four acre outlot in the Hidden Glen 2nd Addition, Phase II which abuts the Purgatory Creek Conservation Area. Staff recommends that the acquisition of this outlot be a condition of the revised PUD. APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION May 5, 1986 -3- The third issue involves trails and sidewalks. Staff recommends a 5' concrete sidewalk be continued along the east side of Dell Road its entire length and that an 81 asphalt bikeway be installed from Street "C" in Hidden Glen 2nd Addition Phase II to the neighborhood commercial center. Staff also recommends a revision to the pedestrian plan in the April 11 Planning Staff report and suggests eliminating the sidewalk along Street 'IF" and continuing along Barrington Drive north and east to Dell Road. MOTION: Gonyea moved to recommend approval of Hidden Glen North per staff report with the revisions as noted. Cook seconded the motion. Cook asked the location of the neighborhood park on the map. Lambert said the park is not shown on the map, but gave its approximate location. The motion passed 7-0. B. Bluff Country PUD Refer to memos dated May 1, 1986 and May 5, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and staff reports dated January 24, 1986, February 21, 1986, April 11, 1986 and April 25, 1986. Lambert said that the parks, recreation and natural resources issues are the preservation of the creek valley, park dedication, trails and sidewalks. Lambert met with the developer on Monday morning and after walking through the area, changed some earlier staff recommendations. He introduced Mr. Bob Smith of Hedlund Engineering who was present at the meeting to review the Bluff Country PUD proposal. Smith showed the commission a phased diagram and proposed zoning map. The site is located on 196 acres south of Pioneer Trail, west of County Road 18 and northeast of Purgatory Creek. The plan shows low density residential land uses of 2.1 units per acre with a neighborhood park to the north, low density residential to the east and south with open space and low density and open space to the west. There was a 1977 PUD which divided the site into eastern and western sections. The western section was approved and is currently being developed, but the eastern section was not approved at that time. Smith said the key issue of this proposal is the preservation of Purgatory Creek. Smith also reviewed maps showing vegetation, road alignments, utility plans and grading plans. Mr. Hustad of Hustad Development, Inc. was also present at the meeting to review the proposed plan. The development will include both high range ($300,000 to $1/2 million) and moderately priced ($100,000 to $125,000) housing. The average lot size is 12,000 square feet. There are 245 single family and 140 multi-family lots included in the plan. APPROVED MINUTES C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION May 5, 1986 -4- Lambert asked about park dedication. Hustad said they had met with their attorney and the developer intends to dedicate open space to the City. Lambert said that the Purgatory Creek Study is the guide that is being used for this development. It suggests being very careful about putting any trails in this section of the creek valley although plans are to make allowances for trails in the future. Lambert said he feels there should be a rim trail and that permanent knolls should be acquired for public use. A 15 year restrictive convenant would insure that no trails would be built along the creek for that amount of time. Lambert again reviewed the major issues which are the preservation of the creek valley with close monitoring both during construction and later; park dedication - the developer will pay cash park fees and the City will require a trail easement; trails and sidewalks - an 8' asphalt trail will be constructed on the west side of Franlo Road, 5' concrete sidewalks will be added on one side of the east/west road opposite the Franlo Park entryway, along the south side of Bluff Road from County Road 18 west the entire length of Bluff Road, along the south side of the extension of Meade Lane to Franlo Road, along the west side of the north/south road that connects the southern most cul-de-sac in the Creek Knolls Development to Franlo Road and along the short cul-de-sacs leading ; to the scenic overlooks. Joyer asked how the 15 year restrictive covenant was decided upon and is it long enough. Lambert said that the maximum amount of time for a restrictive covenant is 25 to 30 years, but he feels 15 years should be long enough to monitor the site. Gonyea asked who will police or monitor the area both during construction and afterwards. Lambert said the City has a full-time inspection department who will closely monitor development on the site. Baker asked how changes will be monitored after the grading has been done. Lambert said it will have to be the initiative of the Community Services staff and the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission to develop some type of monitoring system for different types of wildlife, etc. Cook asked if a scenic easement would affect the gift by the property owners. Hustad said that it would not. Hustad commented on the gift of land to the City. He said this is the second time Brown's have done this and he feels that a precedent has been established. He added that some type of trust must exist between the City and the property owners involved. i i APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION May 5, 1986 -5- Lambert recommended that the plan be approved with the following conditions: changes on the trail and sidewalk system - trail L easement between Lots 3 and 4 off Bluff Road and west from the Brown site and construction of a trail to Lot 8. The trail can be either 61 asphalt or 51 concrete, but it should be hard surface. A scenic easement should be required on steep slopes along with a trail easement and a 15 year restrictive covenant which would require the City to wait before any trail along the creek could be constructed. The impact of a trail should be reviewed at regular intervals and the appropriate cash park fees will be paid by the developer. MOTION: Baker recommended approval of the Bluff Country PUD per staff recommendation and additional conditions above. Joyer seconded the motion. Cook said that his major concern is the water drainage on the site. Lambert said that this will be reviewed by the Watershed District along with the City planning and engineering departments. Shaw asked if there is a similar drainage system in the area. Hustad said there are several, but they are not on as large a scale �,. as this. The motion passed 7-0. VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF A. Community Education Advisory Council Monthly Report 1. Minnetonka Community Services Annual Report Lambert said he receives these reports from time to time since a small portion of northwest Eden Prairie is in the Minnetonka school district and Eden Prairie pays the Minnetonka school district $100 per year for community education, etc. This is an information item only. B. City Council Meeting Report - April 15, 1986 The Parks and Recreation Commission suggested that the road at Donnay's Round Lake Estates be realigned. After an aerial photo was taken and the Council saw what a beautiful area it was, they approved the realignment of the road at their April 15 meeting. The development also has nine or ten townhouses which are to be built on the west side of the pond. Since the east side of the pond is to be saved, Lambert feels the developer should not be allowed to build the townhomes in this location. 1 APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION May 5, 1986 -6- High school athletic field use was also discussed. The Council decided there will be no use of these fields by adult teams and a:a little use by youth teams as possible on the two northern most fields. At the April 29 meeting, the Council discussed the water level at Round Lake and approved the rental of a pump at a cost of between $5,000 and $7,000 to pump water into the storm water system past the Lutheran church along Prairie Village Mall to Hvy. 5 and County Road 4. V. OLD BUSINESS A. Staring Lake Equestrian Trail Refer to letter dated April 16, 1986 from the Eden Prairie Horsemen. This item was discussed at the April 7 meeting. The club had complaints about trails not being well marked and in poor riding condition. Lambert agrees that trails in certain areas can be realigned, but adding woodchips to others is all that can be done. Lambert supports the program, but feels there are a limited number of people in the club and the City should not spend a lot of money at the expense of other trails which serve the general public. He recommends improvements on the trails where possible, an additional entry at the Grill ballfields, sharing cross country ski trails and additional signage. Baker referred to Item #6 of the letter which requests additional trails from Staring Lake Park to the west. Lambert said he is not in favor of adding trails across private property. Mikkelson asked if there have been any complaints received from property owners. Lambert said no. MOTION: Gonyea moved to recommend approval of the Eden Prairie Horsemen's requests per staff recommendation. Cook seconded the motion and it passed 7-0. VI. NEW BUSINESS A. 1985 Annual Report Commission members received the report with their packets. Lambert said the report is used mainly to determine future program needs. C I i ..I i APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION May 5, 1986 -7- Cook asked how long it takes between committed dollars and collected dollars. Lambert said it depends upon the economy and that there are no guarantees. Cook referred to Page 6 and asked if the figures weren't on the conservative side. Lambert said that they are kept conservative on purpose. Cook requested that the commission receive a map showing the location of Eden Prairie parks. MOTION: Gonyea moved to recommend approval of the 1985 Annual Report. Baker seconded the motion and it passed 7-0. VII. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Gonyea moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:15 p.m. Mikkelson sec�ed the motion and it passed 7-0. Respectfully submitted, Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary i i i i4 AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, MAY 19, 1986 7:30 P.M. SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION ROOM A COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Moe Cook, Gary Gonyea , Karon Joyer, Brian Mikkelson, Charles Shaw COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services 7:30 1. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - MAY 5, 1986 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS 7:35 None V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS 7:40 A. Westover Woods e 8:00 B. Anderson Lakes Center (� 8:10 C. Emma Cove VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF None V. OLD BUSINESS 8:20 Edenvale Park Trail System Preliminary Discussion VI. NEW BUSINESS 8:45 VII. ADJOURNMENT oi APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, May 19, 1986 7:30 p.m. , School Admin.' Bldg. Room A COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Breitenstein, chairperson; Bud Baker (late), Moe Cook, Charles Shaw COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Gary Gonyea, Karon Joyer, Brian Mikkelson COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services OTHERS PRESENT: Rick Bolinske, Superintendent of Recreation I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:45 p.m. by chairperson, Pat Breitenstein. s II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA f MOTION: Shaw moved to approve the agenda as mailed. Cook seconded the moron and it passed 4-0. 9 III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES -• MAY 5, 1986 MOTION: Cook moved to approve the minutes as mailed. Shaw seconded Me motion and it passed 4-0. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. Westover Woods Refer to memo dated May 15, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and staff reports dated May 9, 1986 and March 25, 1986. Lambert reviewed the three parks, recreation and natural resources issues on this site. They are sidewalks, preservation of significant vegetation and acquisition of the Purgatory Creek Valley. APPROVED MINUTES C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION May 19, 1986 _2- j Dick Putnam of Tandem Corporation was at the meeting to give a presentation on the proposed plan which is located on the Northrup' . King site south of Anderson Lakes Parkway and the Cumberland Road - intersection. The developer is proposing a single family project with 33 lots and the replatting of the Centex cluster section which includes homes in a price range of $130,000 to $180,000. Putnam reviewed the preliminary grading plan which showed trees to be retained in dark green, trees to be removed in light green, current limits of excavation in red and proposed limits of excavation in blue. The width of the lots has been widened and three lots have been removed to maintain the minimum setback that is required. Lambert asked if Outlot B would be dedicated to the City. Putnam said it would be if the City wished to have it. Lambert said the City is negotiating to purchase the area on the western half of the creek valley from the Tipton Corporation and will make an offer after obtaining an appraisal. He said staff recommends approval of the proposal. Cook asked the location of Northrup King's buildings. Lambert showed their location. Cook commented that there seems to be a lot of big trees on the site. Putnam said there are five or six oak trees at least 25 inches in diameter. Cook asked how the trees to be retained would be marked prior to grading. Putnam said they would put snow fences around them. Baker asked about sidewalks on the site. Lambert said 5' concrete sidewalks will be constructed on both sides of Cumberland Road. MOTION: Baker moved to recommend approval of Westover Woods per sta report. Cook seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. B. Anderson Lakes Center Refer to staff reports dated April 25, 1986 and May 9. 1986. Lambert said the only issue to discuss regarding this proposal is sidewalks. Shaw asked about the developer's intention to construct a temporary driveway off Hwy. 169. Lambert said that the Community Services Department has no authority over this, but it is up to the state to decide whether it would be allowed. (� APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION May 19, 1986 -3- MOTION: Shaw moved to recommend approval of the Anderson Lakes Center adding that the Commission has a serious concern over the stark character of this site and wants to insure that the full weight of the landscape ordinance is carried out due to the location of the development. Cook seconded the motion. On call for discussion, Cook asked where the bike paths and trails are located in relation to the shopping center. Lambert said there will be an 8' asphalt trail to the south, 51 concrete sidewalks on the north side from Hwy. 169 to the first street and an 81 asphalt trail on the west side of Hwy. 169. Baker asked who will pay for the trails on Hwy. 169. Lambert said that it is a state project since they will be located on the ro ' highway right-of-way; however, the City will most likely be charged the cost of the trail. The motion passed 4-0. C. Emma Cove Refer to staff report dated May 9, 1986. Lambert reported that this is a rather simple development consisting of eight lots and one outlot on 5.7 acres east of County Road 4 and south of Baywood Lane. The development meets the guidelines of the Shoreland Management Ordinance. Cook asked what the future potential is of Duck Lane since the lots are located on the lake. Lambert said no proposals have been made up to this point although he feels the lake would have fishing potential if it were aerated. He has been told that crappies, sunfish and bass were taken from the lake prior to the severe winter kill last year. Cook asked about public access to the lake. Lambert said access to the lake is off Duck Lake Road. MOTION: Cook moved to recommend approval of Emma Cove per staff recommendation. Shaw seconded the motion and it passed 4-0. VI. REPORTS OF COMMISIONERS, BOARDS AND STAFF None VII. OLD BUSINESS i A. Edenvale Park Trail System Preliminary Discussion Refer to memo dated May 15, 1986 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services. APPROVED MINUTES C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION May 19, 1986 I -4- Lambert reported that the park consists of 110-120 acres of marsh area with significant amounts of wildlife. Both perimeter trails and wildlife trails are proposed within the park area whereby the public could enjoy the wildlife without disturbing the wildlife system. A trail connection is made at Hillcrest Court. It was suggested by the City Council that staff develop a trail plan for the Edenvale Park area and to review it with the neighborhood prior to submitting it to the Council for final review. Lambert reviewed the steps for construction. The city would brush out a 10, wide trail which would be invisible from most homes due to heavy vegetation and elevations of homes. A 15' wide construction fabric would be placed on the frozen ground without disturbing the soil and an 8' wide trail base of 4" deep, crushed limestone would be placed over the mat. The base would be graded and rolled prior to adding a final layer of aglime which would again be graded and rolled. The soft surface trail could then be used for both cross country skiing and biking and hiking. Maintenance of the trail would begin in spring when the entire trail would be graded and at least once a month during the summer it would be rolled. CLambert said there will probably be some opposition from " surrounding residents, particularly concerns about security. He added that this is City property and should be used by the public. Lambert estimated that at least 500 homes would be notified regarding this trail system. 1 Baker asked how the security concerns of the residents should be j addressed. Lambert said no guarantees can be given, but the trails will definitely make the park more accessible to the public. Shaw suggested that staff obtain figures from the Public Safety Department on the number of incidents that have occured in areas I similar to this within the City so the Commission has backup to '! provide the residents. Lambert said he will get this information. a Shaw asked if there were other options except the extreme p P perimeter trail. Lambert said no, since the trails come within 40, of the property line. Shaw asked about the possibility of floating paths similar to ones located in Richfield. Lambert said this type of trail has been considered; however, these trails are very expensive. i Baker asked if security would be part of the park ranger's duties. Lambert said he thinks there will be very little traffic in this area, but if there are any problems a park ranger would be Cassigned. ,. ,.fir. ._ :, ...: w. .. .,. .�•..-.._,._ r APPROVED MINUTES " 1 EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION May 19, 1986 -5- Lambert reviewed the costs for the proposed trails. Phase 1 of construction for 9000, of aglime trail including the middle bridge would be approximately $40,000. Phase 2 would be to place asphalt on the trail system that follows the interceptor sewer (about 1/2 mile long) at a cost of $7,000. Phase 3 is the northern most creek crossing and connection from the creek trail system to Center Drive at an estimated cost of $18,000. Phase 4 of the project is the construction of two spurs and wildlife blinds at a total estimated cost of $5,500. Cook said he feels the third phase which is the northern most creek crossing and the connection from the creek trail system to Center Drive should be a higher priority and included in Phase 1. Lambert said there is no action required on the proposed plan before the residents are invited to a future meeting. After some discussion, it was decided to present the plan to neighborhood residents at the July 7 Commission meeting. VIII. NEW BUSINESS 3 Baker requested a report on outdoor ice rink participation last winter. Lambert reviewed changes within the City staff including the hiring of Natalie Swaggert as Human Resources Manager. Sandy Werts is now in charge of the senior center and historical society and a new recreation supervisor will be hired to take over the youth programs for Sandy Werts. Rick Bolinske will be present at the next Commission meeting to review current programs. Cook asked about the problems at the Community Center. Bolinske said that there is deterioration of brick. Lambert added that it will probably be mid-winter before anything definite is done about these problems. IX. ADJOURNMENT 1 MOTION: Shaw moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:00 p.m. Baker seconded tip a motion and it passed 4-0. Respectfully submitted, I Lois Boettcher Recording Secretary I