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SEPTEMBER 20, 1999
MINUTES
PARKS RECREATION & NATURAL
RESOURCES COMMISSION
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AGENDA I
PARKS,RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY,SEPTEMBER 20,1999 7:00 P.M.CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Richard Brown,Chair,Frantz Corneille,Claire Hilgcman,Don
Jacobson,Vicki Koenig,John Wilson
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COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A.Lambert,Director of Parks,Recreation and Natural
Resources, Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural
Resources:Laurie Helling,Manager of Recreation Services
I. ROLL CALL ?
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 3
111. APPROVAL OF MINUTES-June 21 and August 2. 1999
IV. PETITIONS REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS l�
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1. Brown Addition i
VI. OLD BUSINESS
1. Three Year Outdoor Center Comnarisons
2 Riley Lake Park Shelter Bids
3. Richard T. Anderson Conservation Area Retaining Wall Bids
V11. NEW BUSINESS
VI11. Reports of Director Parke and Recreation Services
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1. Board and Commission Rcoruanization
Vill, ADJOURNMENT
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APPROVED MINUTES
PARKS,RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 20,1999 7:00 PM CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
COMMISSION: Richard Brown,Chair;Claire Hilgeman,Frantz Corneille,
Don Jacobson,Vicki Koenig,John Wilson
COMMISSION STAFF:
Robert A. Lambert, Director Parks and Recreation
Services: Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural
Resources, Laurie Helling, Manager of Recreation
Services;Rita Maiser,Recorder
1. ROLL CALL
Chair Richard Brown called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Hilgeman was not present.
11. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Koenig moved to add an item to the agenda regarding the landscaping plan on the
development at the intersection of Mitchell Road and Valley View Road. Lambert asked to
make an addition to the agenda to give an update on the Park Plan City Survey.
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MOTION: Koenig moved to approve the agenda with the added amendments. Corneille
seconded.Approved 5-0.
Ill. APPROVAL OF MINUTES— June 21,1999 1
MOTION: Due to lack of a quorum at the August 2, 1999 meeting, the June 21 minutes I
were not approved. Jacobson moved to approve the June 21 minutes. Wilson seconded.
Approved 4-0,with Koenig abstaining.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES—August 2,1999
Corneille questioned the wording of his motion under the Bluff Country Village
development proposal on page three, in the sixth paragraph, which reads: "...including the
landing point..." Fox said that the "landing point" refers to a safe zone area in the trail
system.
Koenig questioned the language under the Shady Oak Estates development proposal in the
first paragraph on Page 4: "2.7 acres will be filled." Fox will check on this figure,as the fill
pertains to the entire project,not just the entrance drive.
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Brown asked about the motion by which the commission asked to have input into the
landscaping plan on Shady Oak Estates,and if the plan was alreudy approved. Fox said that
the plan has not been finally approved.
MOTION: Brown moved to approved the August 2 minutes with clarification to follow
regarding the amount of acreage filled on Shady Oak Estates. Wilson seconded the motion.
Approved 4-0. Jacobson abstained.
IV. P ETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. None
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. Brown Addition
The proposal consists subdividing 23.87 acres cast of Settler's Ridge and south of Riley
Creek into single-family lots. Phase one would consist of 12 lots, with an outlot on
Riley reck. A second phase would consist of four lots with an outlot along Highway
212. The site has 57 significant trees, and the development will result in 17%tree loss.
Mitigation calls for 125 caliper inches of landscape material.
Ed Hosck of Westwood Engineering explained the proposal on behalf of Dan Herbst and
the Brown family. Access will be through Settler's Ridge and will be by private drive
with a turn-around. Grading will be reduced as much as possible. The Indian Mounds
and the Riley Creek bluffs will have setbacks. Phase one will have 2.66 acres dedicated
to the City. Phase two will have 7.01 acres dedicated, totaling 46% of the land
dedicated as park and open space. Out the 23 acres involved,grading for the homes will
occur on 3.78 of these acres.
Fox said that the developer is asking a variance that would allow setbacks of 25 feet
instead of 30 feet. Another variance would allow the street to be private. The street in
the Brown Addition would have a 24-foot roadtop, with a 30-foot casement, leaving the �r
remaining six feet for utility casements. 28 feet is the standard roadtop to allow for
passing and street parking, and the width recommended by the city engineers. A full
cul-de-sac or hammerhead is needed for turnaround for large vehicles. Five-foot
sidewalks could be placed five foot off the curb,and one foot off the property line.
One issue to be resolved is trail constriction and accessibility to Crestwood Park..When
Settler's Ridge was proposed,the staffplanned for an eight-foot trail that would continue
through the Brown property and connect with Dell Road. Lambert said the city policy is
to provide that each development have a neighborhood park within one-half mile walking
distance. Without a trail through the Brown addition,this goal cou!d not be met. The
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staff is recommending that a five-foot sidewalk be put through the Brown addition,which
will require steps be built and a bridge be installed to traverse the steepest slope. The city
would accept a path along Riley Creek if it were constructed by the developer. One
problem is that such a path and stairs would not be cleared of snow in the winter. The
city's position is that the developer needs to work out a plan that will accommodate
sidewalks for access to Crestwood Park.
Koenig asked what the cost of stairs or a bridge would be. Lambert said the city doesn't
have an estimate, but $30,000-$50,000 for a bridge is a possibility. Sidewalks with
stairs could be $50,000-$70,000. Sidewalks would be paid by the developer, except
those that are on city-dedicated land.
Koenig said it is not clear how the Indian Burial Mounds will be marked. Fox said the
state archeologist will recommend marking as needed, and that the area will be
permanently recorded.
Koenig asked where the bluff setback lies. Fox said is starts 20 feet from the top of the
bluff. There is a 10-foot setback from the Indian Mounds and any structure.All setbacks
and conservation casements arc recorded on the property title.
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MOTION: Wilson moved to accept the proposal for the Brown Addition as t
recommended in the Staff Report of September 1, 1999. Jacobson seconded. r'
Koenig moved to amend the motion to state that: the developer work with city staff to
develop an acceptable trail plan. Jacobson seconded the amendment. The amended j
motion was approved 5-0. j
V1. OLD BUSINESS
A. Three Year Outdoor Center Comnarlson
Laurie Helling presented a three-year summary of the Staring Lake Outdoor Center
programs and building rentals.She presented a series of charts showing comparisons in
program offerings, program participation, and revenue and expenditures. The study
showed less participation in 1998 winter programs due to lack of cold and snow to
support scheduled activities. In regard to revenue and expenditures,net loss is down for
for 1999.
D. Riley Lake Park Shelter Bids
Bids for the Riley Lake Park Shelter were opened September 9, 1999. Four contractors
submitted bids. The low bidder was C M Construction, at $219,219. The staff is
recommending two alternates to the plan. Alternate one would include a concrete plaza
with u brick border. Alternate two includes heavier shingles with a scalloped edge.
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With alternates, the new cost would be $224,194. The city received a matching grant
from the state of$100,000.
MOTION: Cornielle moved to approve the bid for the Riley Lake Park Shelter. Wilson 1
seconded. Approved 5-0.
C. Richard T.Anderson Conservation Area Retaining Wall Bids
Bids for the retaining wall were opened on September 14, 1999. One bid was submitted,
which was by Terranova, for$104,950. The city projected the cost at$60.000,therefore
the bid was rejected.
MOTION: Wilson moved to support the staffs rejection of this bid. Koenig seconded.
The motion was approved 5-0.
D. Landscaping at Valley View and Mitchell Roads
Brown is concerned about the condition of the landscaping that surrounds the 1
development on the southeast side of the intersection. Fox said that the developer has
followed the landscape plan, but the trees are not leafing out well. So far nothing is f
dying, and it takes about a year for landscaping to establish itself. Due to road spray
and salt, it was proposed that mulch be used here instead of grass.
E. Undate of Guide Plan i
Lambert said the city is working to update its guide plan as required by the e
Metropolitan Council.The city needs to get citizen input and to assess the adequacy of
its parks and preservation of its resources. The city will use the 1988 survey as a basis,
and will have Bill Morris restructure the questions. The new survey will be ready by
November, 1999.
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A. None
Vill. REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION SERVICES
1. Board and G'olnmission Rcorga i a lan
Lambert presented copies of the new organizational chart showing proposed changes to
the Boards and Commissions. The new Community Planning Board will consist of nine
members composed of the old planning and park commissions. Park commission
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members whose terms arc up in April 2000 will be on the new board. The new Park&
Recreation Commission will have five to seven members. It will work mainly with
budgets, park and trail use, and recreational services. The Planning Board will have a
more significant role than it has now.
One of the reasons for the reorganization is to require special interest groups to take
other city needs into consideration prior to going to the city council. Lambert said the
city needs to set its vision and it's priorities. City growth is leveling off,and the city has
to maintain its projects into the future. The council is looking for people to serve with
different backgrounds and interests to achieve balance on the commissions.
The new Parks Commission will end in December,and start up again under the new plan
in April 2000. The commission will meet four to twelve times per year, and will act as
an advisory to the Council through the Leisure and Communication Board. The
commission will have more training. Terms will be three years, staggered. Brown,
Hilgcman and Wilson's terms will end in December, 1999. Koenig and Corneille will
go over to the newly organized Planning Board until April 2000.
IX, ADJOURNMENT,
MOTION: Jacobson moved to adjourn at 9:00 p.m.Wilson seconded.Approved 5-0.
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