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CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
AGENDA
PARKS,RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY,APRIL 15, 1996 7:00 P.M.CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Claire Hilgcman, Chair, Bruce Bowman, Richard Brown,
Don Jacobson,Vicki Kocning, David Kracum,John Wilson
STUDENT MEMBERS: Mark Bremer, Emily Flanka
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COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks, Recreation and
Natural Rcsourccs: Stuart A. Fox, Manager of Parks and
Natural Resources: Laurie Flelling, Manager of Recreation
Services
1. ROLL CALL
IL APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES-April 1 1996
IV. PETITIONS,REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS !
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V. DEVELOPMENT PROP SA 1.
A. Eden Prairic Presbyterian Church 3'
B. Lil'etouch Corporate Headquarters $
V1. OLD BURIN FSS jtt
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A. 1996 Work Plan(continued form April 1. 19961
VI1. NEW BUSINESS
A. Policy on IlanL' L,Banners in Community Center
B. Policy on Smoking,on Community Center Proncrtv
C. Policy on Donatioas
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VI11. Reports of ManaLcr of Parks and Natural Resources
A. Arbor Day Proclamation
B. Arbor Day Walk
C. Spring Park Clcan-up-un
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APPROVED MINUTES
PARKS,RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAV,APRIL 15,1996 7:00 P.M.CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Claire Flilgeman,Chair: Bruce Bowman,Richard
Brown,Don Jacobson,Vicki Koenig, David
Kracum,John Wilson
STUDENT MEMBERS: Mark Bremer, Emily Flanka
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Parks,Recreation
and Facilities:Stuart Fox,City Foiester. Elinda
Bahley,Recording Secretary
1. ROL],CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m.by Chair Hilgeman. All members
were present.
Il. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Bowman moved,seconded by Koenig to approve the agenda as
published. Motion carried 7-0.
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Ill. APPROVAL OF MINUTES-APRIL 1.1996
Koenig stated on Page 3,under Old Business,the last sentence should read,
Lambert responded that the City was not ready to install any improvements in this
park until it was determined...
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MOTION: Wilson moved,seconded by Brown to approve the Minutes of the
April I, 1996 Parks,Recreation and Natural Resources Commission as amended.
Motion carried 6-0-1 with one abstention by Bowman.
IV. PETITIONS.REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. None.
V. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL
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A. Eden Prairie Presbyterian Church
Becky Lennon,representing Eden Prairie Presbyterian Church,reviewed the
proposal for the relocation of the church from the current site on Lcona Road
and Flying Cloud Drive to Eden Prairie Road and Pioneer Trail. The grading
plan,site plan,elevation plan,and landscaping plan were reviewed. I
The site plan shows a 21,050 square foot building with a walk-out on two
sides. The proposal is to surround the parking area to screen it with six foot
berms topped with a variety of flowering crab and blue spruce,and a variety j
of bushes and trees on the property.
Fox reviewed the Staff Report with the Commission. It was noted there is j
only one large cottonwood that will be impacted with the grading. That's
100 percent tree loss and ends up being mitigated with the landscaping and
the screening. A variety of coniferous material as well as some of the more
common deciduous trees will be planted.
The NURP pond that's scheduled to be constructed will be along Eden Prairie
Road which will be north of the low area of the wetlands which is currently
on the corner of Eden Prairie Road and Pioneer Trail. It will have to be
approved suitable to handle the runoff from this site. The Engineering
Department is investigating it now. The NURP pond will handle the runoff
from the parking lot and the driveway areas. It has to be sized appropriately
to handle the entire site.
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Originally,when this site was proposed to be single family homes,an eight
foot wide trail was proposed on the north side of Azalea Trail. The road is
not being built as part of this plan and will probably never be extended.
I Iowevcr, the Staff are recommending that a six foot wide sidewalk be
constructed concurrent with the project to accommodate pedestrian traffic
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The project was reviewed by the Planning Commission at the April 8, 1996
meeting and received a unanimous vote of approval. In addition,the project
would be exempt from paying cash park fees as per the City code because
this is a church,
Wilson asked what will happen to the existing church site on Lcona Road.
Lennon replied the site will become commercial property with 30,000 square
feet of retail.
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Brown was concerned about recommending cash park fees in case the
property is sold in the future for residential. Fox replied it would be for a
subdivision,and they would take up the issue at that time.
Koenig was concerned about the configurations of the NURP pond. Fox
replied the NURP pond is sized for the entire acreage on the site. It's
planned to take off the runoff on the whole site. The only runoff at this time
will be the parking lot.
Brown expressed concern that there was no variance request for the building
height of 38 feet when the maximum height is 30 feet on public zoning. Fox
stated that more than likely it will be addressed as a variance request
MOTION: Brown moved,seconded by Koenig to accept the plan as per the
Staff recommendations for the Eden Prairie Presbyterian Church's new
building. Motion carried 7-0.
B. I irctouch Corporate Headquarters
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Marshall Levin, representing Pope Association Inc., reviewed the
development proposal for the new corporate headquarters of Lifetouch. This
is a four story building from the lakeside elevation. It's primarily a brick and
glass building with the upper story being made out of an exterior insulation
system to give a different texture at the top.
Lifetouch is a photography company that employs 4000 employees,and I 1
percent of them live in Eden Prairie. They have chosen Eden Prairie as their
world headquarters.
The project is a three phase plan in terms of a site plan. Phase I is the 32.800
square foot building. Phase I I will take place in about four or five years !
which will need an additional 167,000 square feet of building. The third t:
parcel will be Phase III of the project.The building is being viewed as a
fornial structure with a formal entrance. There are significant reformations s
of the slope down to the water in the back.
Fox reviewed the Staff Report with the Commission. Currently,the site does
not require the removal of tiny significant trees as defined by City ordinance.
The site has been used for several years for ctoragc of excess fill that was
excavated from other parts of the original PUD. Therefore,no mitigation is
required for removal of significant trees.
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Fox explained the background as to why the project has a rather extensive
amount of landscaping proposed. The plant schedule shows a total of 460
caliper inches oftrces being planted on the site. Coniferous material include
Black Hills spruce and Colorado spruce. Deciduous trees to be planted
include green ash,basswood,swamp white oak,redmond linden,river birch,
black ash and silver maple. There is an extensive amount of foundation and
landscape decorative planting that includes flowering shrubs, Staff believes
the landscaping plan submitted is suitable for the site and will accomplish the i
desired effect.
The NURP pond is to the cast and is a two stage pond that was created. All
the drainage from this particular site would be channeled into that NURP
pond and would make its way into Smetana Lake.
There is an eight-foot bituminous trail that was originally built by Vantage
and for some reason there was not an casement given to the site. The
developer has come up with the appropriate documentation and the City will
give the site a permanent trail casement for people to walk as well as for the
site to be maintained as a public casement point. Staff recommended that at
the time of Phase 11 a five foot wide concrete sidewalk be constructed along
Viking Drive to handle pedestrian traffic. It would also have to meander
around some of the existing light poles in order to be installed.
This project was reviewed by the Planning Commission on April 8, 1996 and
received unanimous approval. Staff does recommend approval of this
project.
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Brown was concerned about the DNR accepting the plan based on Phase I
and II. Fox responded that part of it is because the parking deck and the site j
from Smetana Lake would have to be modified. Levin noted that this has to
do with how much or any of the parking ramp should be visible from the
lake. The original plan was approved for two buildings,one being a 10 story
and the other one a 14 story building. They didn't need that extensive
development for this site and that's why they want three buildings. f
Kracum expressed concern about the DNR being comfortable with a 100 foot
setback instead of the required 200 foot setback. Fox stated that Staff is
comfortable with the 100 foot setback and explained wily.
Koenig asked if the Smetana Lake improvement project fits in the CIP with
Mile Creek Centennial Lake. Lambert noted the DNR has denied the
requests for the improvement project on Smetana Lake as requested. The
DNR decided that the value of the wetland being created is not a valuable as i
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the wetland being lost. Staff is still supporting the Watershed District to put
in an outlet control structure to control the elevation for the lake and manage
it more for flood control. That is still in the review process.
Bowman was concerned about the setback,and the comment in the Staff
Report indicating that the seven story parking deck is not consistent with any j
plans, He commented that there is reason here not to consider the setback i
waiver. This means the parking lot is taller than the adjoining office
building. He wants to make sure that if they accept the lesser setback in lieu
of tightening up the parking structure,the Commission remembers it later on
during the next phase.
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Koenig expressed concern about the two-tier NURP pond by the billboard j
having a lot of sedimentation in it already, Fox replied that the NURP ponds
need to be cleaned out based on how much sedimentation takes place in
them. It depends on how much solid comes out of the adjacent street and
parking lot, hie noted that the original NURP ponds were sized for the entire
project and the entire site was not developed.
Discussion ensued regarding the condition in the Staff Report stating that the
proposed setback is 100 feet,and the setback waiver should only be granted
if this site plan is changed to reduce the height of the parking dcek on Phase i
11 and 111. It was noted that the Commission basically will not be responsible
for the height of the parking deck in Phase 11 and 111.
I-lilgeman commented she's not happy with all the waivers but understands
that these decisions were made a long time ago and the tradeoffs were
substantial on both sides. She supported the project.
MOTION: Brown moved,seconded by Jacobson to approve the Lifctouch
Corporate Headquarters as per the Staff recommendations. Motion carried
7-0.
V1. OLD BUSINESS
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A. 1996 Work Plan(continued from April 1. 1996)
The Commission was referred to a memo dated April 4, 1996,from Robert
A.Lambert,Director of Parks,Recreation and Facilities.
Lambert noted that this Work Plan can be either modified or approved as per
the way it's written. Some things have already been initiated. There is a
Council Workshop in the next couple of months that's going to be addressing
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Work Plans that they request from Commissions. The Commission should
select a member to represent them and report on the Work Plan at a regular
Council meeting.
Discussion ensued regarding the different projects in the Work Plan,as well
as target dates for each one. The Commission also discussed the inability to I
interpret the City Survey and how to avoid this for other future City Surveys. {
Lambert indicated they would set up a committee with two or three
Commissioners and two Staff members. Then they would bring in the I
consultant and ask him to interpret the results. Discussion continued
regarding the recreational programs needed in Eden Prairie during the
summer months or after school when both parents arc working.Items#1,#3,
and #6 require interaction sub-committees between the Staff and the
Commission.
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Brown indicated that the Senior Task Force is setting up a training session
on May 4 and seeking volunteers to do phone surveys. lie recommended
that the City participate.
MOTION: Jacobson moved, seconded by Koenig to accept the 1996
Commission Work Plan dated April 4, 1996. Motion carried 7-0.
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Hilgcman asked for volunteers to serve on a committee to meet with the
survey consultant that did the recent survey to talk about the results of it.
Jacobson and Wilson volunteered, and Hilgcman volunteered to be an x
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Lambert asked for a volunteer to work with Stu Fox on helping to develop 1
a Management Plan for the conservation areas. Koenig and Flilgeman
volunteered. Fox noted this would be for about six or seven months and
meet every other week to start.
VI1. NEW BUSINESS
A. Policy on lianging Banners in Community Center
Staffrefened the Commission to a memo dated April 1, 1996.from Robert
A. Lambert, Director of Parks,Recreation and Facilities.and a letter from
Pete Rose,Team Manager 1995/1996 Pec Wee"A".
Lambert indicated the Eden Prairie Pee Wee"A"hockey team won the State
Tournament this year and brought home a "Championship Banner". The
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at the Community Center. Staff believes the City should display the banner
and has considered other Eden Prairie users of the Community Center who
have potential to obtain championship banners. The main groups include
Eden Prairie High School Hockey and Swim Teams, Hockey Association,
Figure Skating Club,and Foxjct Swim Club.
Discussion ensued regarding the guidelines required in order to display the
banners. Hilgeman asked if a limit could be put on the amount of years a
banner can be displayed. Lambert indicated that when the wall fills up the
oldest banner will most likely be removed. Jacobson was concerned about
where the Little League would display aâ–ºbanner if they won a championship.
Lambert suggested in a future building that would serve that sport in Miller
Park.
MOTION: Wilson moved, seconded by Brown to accept the Staff
recommendations for banners at the Community Center. Motion carried 7-
0-0.
B. Policy on Smoking on Community Center Property
Staff referred the Commission to a memo dated April 9, 1996 from Robert
A.Lambert,Director of Parks,Recreation and Facilities;and a memo dated
March 21, 1995 from Jennifer Inz and Ric Rosow.
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Lambert indicated this is a request to both the Parks Commission and the fi
City Council to review the question on whether or not the City wants to
initiate action to restrict smoking on the property adjacent to the Community
Center. Staff has received many call from people suggesting the City is not
presenting the right image. The people do not like entering the Community
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Center through it haze of smoke, and feel it's not a healthful image for
children. There arc also many people who would be offended if smoking a
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Hilgcmaan commented that a policy to prohibit smoking would not be
possible because there would be problems trying to enforce it. Children arc
very educated about the dangers of smoking and are not going to feel any
different by seeing a bunch of people smoking.
Wilson suggested a designated area for smoking toward the back entrance.
Lambert stated he does not want to put up signs that they can't enforce,and
make up rules that they don't intend to enforce.
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Hilgeman was concerned about how many people would be respectful
enough to go to the back and smoke. She suggested one small sign to refrain
from smoking at the front door and smoke at the back door. Jacobson
suggested using large ashtrays because the ones presently there get full too
quickly.
MOTION: Brown moved,seconded by Koenig to attempt no smoking by
the Community Center entrance by posting a sign that Staff will develop that
asks people to smoke at a designated smoking area at the back entrance.
Motion curried 6-0-1 with one abstention by Kracum.
C. Policy on Donations
Staff referred the Commission to a memo dated April 16, 1996,from Robert
A.Lambert,Director of Parks,Recreation and Facilities.
Lambert reviewed the guidelines as outlined in the memo indicating that it
makes sense to have a policy that Staff can tell the donors what the process
is. The City has to get things in writing when given gifts and be aware of
any strings attached. Staff believes there should be more of a process to
follow.
Hilgeman asked if any substantial gifts have been given to the City as a result
of the"Excellence Through Giving'gift book. Lambert indicated there were
several groups that requested the book and used it, but believes the City
would have received the gifts without the book.
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Staff recommended the City have a written policy regarding donations that
the Parks Commission review. This would then be sent to the City Council.
MOTION: Bowman moved. seconded by Brown for approval of the
recommendations per the Staff Report for a written policy on donations.
Motion curried 7-0.
V111. Reports of Manager of Parks and Natural Resources
A. Arbor Day.Proclamation
Fox indicated this was an FYI item.
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B. Arbor Day Walk
Fox indicated this was an FYI item.
C. Spring Park Clean-uu
Fox indicated this was an FYI item.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Jacobson moved,seconded by Brown to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 7-0. The meeting adjourned at 9:09 p.m.
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