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EDEN PRAIRIE BOARD OF APPEAL AND EQUALIZATION
THURSDAY,APRIL 10, 2008 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: Patricia Pidcock, Chair; Mike Best, Vice-Chair;
Brian Duoos and Annette O'Connor
BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT: Jim Johnson
CITY STAFF PRESENT: City Assessor Steve Sinell; Staff Appraisers: Dave
Buswell, Jody Carlson, Barb Cook, John Sams and
Colin Schmidt; Assessing Technician Lisa Ramsey
and Recording Secretary Carol Pelzel
I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chair Pidcock at 7:05 p.m. The Board members introduced
themselves presenting a brief background of their experience.
II. PROCEDURAL INFORMATION BY STEVE SINELL
City Assessor Sinell presented an overview of the process and explained that the Board is
appointed by the City Council. The Board is to hear appeals regarding the current year market
value and sales information should be leading up to January 2, 2008. Sinell explained that there
have been some downturns in the market and there is more happening right now. He reminded
the Board that the date of assessment is January 2 not April 10. He also reminded the Board that
they are bound by the Open Meeting Law and cannot meet as a group outside of this meeting to
discuss these appeals. Sinell reported that value notices were mailed to 22,000 taxpayers on
March 5 and since that time they have talked to approximately 400 people with corrections being
made on 85 properties. Tonight they have approximately 40 appeals.
III. ORDER OF BUSINESS
A. Review Appeals#1 through#42 as Appear on April 10, 2008 BOAE List and Status of
Appeals
Appeal No. 1 —Sreng & Ching Ing, 17997 Strawberry
Ching Ing said she would like to discuss her market value and how the Assessor determined
the value. She asked if the value is based on the purchase price, market value or on square
footage. Sinell responded that all of those factors are taken into consideration. Ing pointed
out that according to the Minnesota Realtors Magazine Resource, market values are down. In
2007 her value was at$619,000 and remained the same for 2008. Ing presented comparables
and based on those comparables, she felt the value placed on her home is not accurate.
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Pidcock pointed out that the information contained in the magazine article does not affect her
area. She explained that members of this Board appraise homes for a living and square
footage is only one aspect for determining the value of a home. They also look at lot size,
location and amenities. Ing explained that their home is pretty basic and they do not have any
amenities. Pidcock said a four-car garage is an amenity.
Sinell said they found that they had to lower the value of 80 percent of the condominiums,
67 percent of the townhouses and only 38 percent of single-family homes. He indicated that
staff has begun the review of Ing's property and would like to finish that review. Staff is
recommending that this property be referred to the Assessor to complete the review.
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 1 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 2 —Michael & Christine Secora, 12426 Chesholm Lane
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 2 to refer this item
to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 4 —James Hunter, 9279 Dartmouth Avenue
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 4 to refer this item
to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 5 —Jeffrey Harris, 18654 Vogel Farm Trail
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 5 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 6 —Kathleen Adams, 18844 Chennault Way
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 6 to refer this item
to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 7 —Brian & Melissa Wilson, 12393 Chesholm Lane
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 7 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 8 —Tom& Jackie Rabiola, 17579 Toft Cove
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 8 to refer this item
to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
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Appeal No. 9 —Shravan Pargal, 16997 New Market Drive
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 9 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 10—William Gooding, 17406 Ada Court
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 10 to refer
this item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 11 —Greg Murphy, 12324 Chesholm Lane
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 11 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 12 —John & Cynthia Veire, 17207 Trenton Lane
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 12 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 13 —Dipak Shah, 7993 Lismore Circle
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 13 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 14 —Paul Mangiamele, 11311 Entrevaux Drive
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 14 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 15 —Stephen & Mary Ann Chicoine, 11530 Landing Road
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 15 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 16 —Steve & Kathy Sather, 10432 Purdey Road
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 16 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 18 —Jeffrey Sloan, 9494 Riley Lake Road
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 18 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 19 —Mark& Elaine Tauatz, 6920 Ticonderoiza Trail
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MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 19 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 20—Emily Khieu, 17846 Fruitwood Lane
Emily Khieu explained that she purchased this property in 2004 for $530,000. The estimated
market value is now set at$650,800. She stated that the house next door to hers sold for
$555,000 in January, 2008. Khieu asked why her value continues to go up when the market is
going down. She said she questioned why her property value has been increased when the
neighborhing property sold for$555,000 and she also asked what her home's value is based
on. Khieu presented comparables and said she feels her house is appraised incorrectly. She
has not made any improvements to her home.
Sinell explained that an inspection of this property has not been made and they would like
the opportunity to view the home. He also pointed out that the Board cannot lower the value
of the home until an inspection has been made.
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 20 to refer this
item to the Assessor to inspect and complete review. The motion carried, 4-0.
Appeal No. 21 —Don Ramler& Susan Orton, 16760 South Shore Lane
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 21 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 22 —Deane & Joan Conklin, 15529 Junegrass Lane
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 22 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 23 —Chester Swietkowski, 6610 Countryside Drive
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 23 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 25 —Philip & Catherine Dien, 10444 Purdey Road
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 25 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 26 —Stefan Peterson & Shanti Shah, 6311 Country
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 26 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
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Appeal No. 27 —David & Nancy Westby, 6734 Boyd Avenue
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 27 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 28 —Gary Radel, 18141 Overland Trail
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 28 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 29 —Martin Wheeler, 6399 Ginger Drive
Martin Wheeler explained that he purchased the home in May of 2004 for $770,000. At the
time they had a purchase agreement on another home in Eden Prairie but his wife wanted this
house. Against his better judgment, they purchased the house. When they purchased the
house in 2004 he felt they overpaid for it. A home two doors down from theirs sold in
October, 2004 for$559,355. That homeowner tastefully remodeled the home and in October,
2006 that same house sold for$550,000, a 2 percent loss. During this time, the value of his
home was set at$800,000. Wheeler said he has done some comparisons of home sales in
Eden Prairie for a 12-month period. There were 16 homes sold for an average price of
$500,000. The assessor did inspect his home and provided him with three comparisons
valued at$198 per square foot. The assessor did offer to reduce the value to $790,000.
Wheeler presented some comparisons of homes that were sold in 2006 and 2007.
O'Connor said she is familiar with this area and that there was a huge swing on lot prices
when it was initially developed. Wheeler said he is not asking to not pay taxes but he wants
his home valued fairly.
Sinell pointed out that this is a preliminary estimate and he recommended that the Assessor
be allowed to complete the work on this property.
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 29 to refer
this item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 30—Adel Hashw, 12238 Jasper Lane
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 30 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 31 —Doug Stansbury, 9439 Olympia Drive
Doug Stansbury explained that an assessor did go through his home last year and they agreed
on a value of$750,000 and this year it was valued at the same price. There are multiple
issues with the home including the need for a new roof, windows and deck. Stansbury said he
is asking that the value be reduced to $700,000.
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Sams said it would be a good idea for him to go out to Stansbury's house again and take
pictures of the issues discussed. He would then work up another appraisal.
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 31 to refer
this item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 32 —Peter & Cynthia Decesare, 10599 Parker Drive
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 32 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 33 —Bruce & Kathy Riemer, 10570 Prairie Lakes Dr.
Kathy Riemer explained that she had talked to the assessor last year and they did review her
home at that time. At that time the value of her house had been increased from$614,000 to
$663,000, an 8 percent increase in a declining market. Riemer said she did not appeal the
value last year. She further explained that she had contacted the realtor they purchased their
home from and asked him for an analysis. The realtor gave them a sale price between
$566,000 and $590,000. They live in a small neighborhood so it was hard to find
comparables. Their home is one of the smaller homes in the neighborhood and they do not
have many of the amenities that others do. They have a very basic home for that
neighborhood. There was one home in the neighborhood that is much larger but with the
same floor plan that sold for$830,000 a couple of years ago. Riemer reviewed the
comparables prepared by her realtor and her home is valued much higher than any of the
comparables. Riemer said she believes her house is overvalued.
Duoos pointed out that Riemer's house was built in 1997 while the comparables used were
built in 1991 and 1994. Those homes would sell for less. Sinell mentioned that the
comparables listed are spread out all over town. This neighborhood has not seen a lot of
turnover.
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 33 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 34 —Donald & Ruth Tate, 9411 Libber
Donald Tate said he believes his property is assessed well above the market value. He
explained that there are two very equivalent townhomes in the same development and are
currently on the market for$434,000 and $439,000. They have been listed at or above this
price for a significant time and have not been sold. Tate said he has had two realtors look at
his property within the last couple of weeks and they recommended that he not attempt to sell
his property for more than $400,000. They indicated that a more reasonable market price
would be $390,000. He also indicated that the market analysis he had done indicated three
possible selling prices; $379,000, $389,000 and $399,000 being the top price. Tate said his
property is currently assessed at$476,000. He said he believes that to be unreasonable given
today's market. There have been very few sales in his area. There were four other units listed
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and withdrawn because they could not sell them. Tate stated that the assessor has looked at
his property but has not had time to prepare an assessment.
Duoos indicated that certain properties have taken a bigger hit than some other types of
properties. He also pointed out that some of the comparables were from 2003 that sold for
$396,000 and the petitioner paid $396,000.
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 34 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 35 —Stew Stender, 12221 Chadwick Lane
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 35 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 36 —Richard Musser, 16100 Baywood Lane
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 36 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 37 —ALS West, Inc., 7513 Mitchell Road
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 37 if income
and expense information is received, this item is to be referred to the Assessor to complete
review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 38 —LaJaun & Cheryl Willis, 12455 Cockspur Court
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 38 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 39 —Glenn & Marcia Ehorn, 17529 Hackberry Court
Tim Ehorn stated that his home is one of five homes that have a three-car garage and his
home was the last one to be completed in the development. The developer is still in the
process of finishing the homes. Ehorn explained that after his home was completed, the
developer sold off the ten remaining lots to another builder. From 2006 to the present time,
ten units have been foreclosed. The ten units were built in the development and each of the
ten units was unfinished. Just last week they did put garage doors on five of the units. Ehorn
said that people have expressed an interest in building and living in the development but
because of the vacant units they don't want to move into the development. The two active
homes on the market are middle units and have been on the market for almost one year. They
were relisted with the same agent but at a different pricing. Ehorn stated that one of the units
was purchased for $465,000 in 2004 and is now on the market for$439,000 while the other
unit is listed at$434,000 and had been purchased in 2004 for$515,035.
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O'Connor indicated that the biggest impact on this development is the open units without
garage doors. Sinell said staff would like the opportunity to finish their appraisal on this
property. Ehorn said he believes the main cause of concern for this development is the
foreclosure units in the development.
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 39 to refer
this item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 40—Michael & Corrine Fritz, 17531 Hackberry Court
Michael Fritz explained that he lives in the same townhouse development as the previous
speaker. He indicated that he does not have a three-car garage. The previous speaker pretty
much summed up the problems in their development. A unit did sell in November 2007 for
$398,000 and had an estimated market value of$442,000. Another unit sold in April 2007
for$475,000 and had an estimated market value of$480,000. Fritz presented other examples
of units sold in the development.
Pidcock said she believes this Board has a good outline of what is happening in this
neighborhood.
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 40 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 41 —Eric Kang, 8163 Antrim Cove
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 41 if an
inspection of the property is allowed, to refer this item to the Assessor to complete review.
The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 42 —Thomas Kuenzli, 16450 Valle
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 42 if an inspection
of the property is allowed, to refer this item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion
carried 4-0.
Recess
A short recess was called after which the meeting was reconvened at 8:25 p.m.
B. Hear Other Personal and Written Appeals
Appeal No. 43 —Jennifer Karner, 10284 Meade Lane
Jennifer Karner stated that she probably should have appealed her value in 2007. At that time
it was set at$636,800 and after talking to the appraiser it was dropped by $10,000 for 2008.
Karner said she did look at some comparables and presented them to the Board. She
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explained that the value of the homes are not going up but are dropping. The house directly
behind her has been on the market for a year and is listed at$570,000. In looking at the 2007
value for homes in her neighborhood, she found the value assigned to those homes all under
$600,000 and many of those homes have better updates than hers. Her value was reduced to
$626,900 from$636,800. The home located at 10348 Meade Lane sold for $624,000. Karner
said it is unlikely that they could sell their home for$609,000.
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 43 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 44 —Ullas Kamath, 7017 Beacon Circle
Ullas Kamath explained that his home is valued at$353,400 for 2008, the same as last year.
Like some of the other people that spoke this evening, he should have appeared before the
Board last year. The home at 7005 Beacon Circle sold in September 2007 for$373,000 and
he believes it is in foreclosure at this time. House prices have gone down in 2007 while his
estimated market value for 2008 has remained the same. Kamath stated that his backyard
abuts Dell Road which is a busy road and he has water logging in his backyard during March
through May. He also stated that his home has not been renovated and the conditions of the
floors, walls, windows, etc. have a downward effect on the value. Kamath said his property
has not been reviewed for the last eight or nine years.
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 44 to refer
this item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 45 —Avis Larson, 6284 Cranberry Lane
Avis Larson said she is concerned that if she decides to sell her home the price would not
compare to the estimated market value. She presented comparables.
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by O'Connor, in Appeal No. 45 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
Appeal No. 46 —Paul Drach, 17061 New Market Drive
Paul Drach said he feels his home's market value has been set too high. When the highway
was constructed, it was bermed up and not taken down. His view is of the walls. Drach said
his backyard backs up to the light rail corridor and for resale in a high inventory market this
may be seen as a negative. He also explained that there is work that needs to be done on the
home including a new roof. The home was built in 1994 and they have not made any
improvements to it. This is a very barebones home with an unfinished basement. Drach said
he feels an estimated market value of$450,000 is too high.
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Best, in Appeal No. 46 to refer this
item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion carried 4-0.
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Appeal No. 47 —Atia Ibrahim, 11230 Lanewood Circle
MOTION: Motion was made by Best, seconded by Duoos, in Appeal No. 47 if an inspection
of the property is allowed, to refer this item to the Assessor to complete review. The motion
carried 4-0.
C. Schedule Next Meeting
MOTION: Motion was made by O'Connor, seconded by Duoos, to schedule the next
meeting of the Board of Appeal and Equalization for Tuesday, April 29, 2008, at 7:00 p.m.
The motion carried 4-0.
D. Close the Board of Appeal and Equalization Meeting to Additional Appeals
MOTION: Motion O'Connor, seconded by Best, to close the Board of Appeal and
Equalization meeting to additional appeals. The motion carried 4-0.
IV. CONTINUE THE BOARD OF APPEAL AND EQUALIZATION MEETING
MOTION: Motion was made by Duoos, seconded by O'Connor, to continue the Board of
Appeal and Equalization meeting to April 29, 2008. The motion carried 4-0 and the meeting was
continued at 8:50 p.m.