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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 2008 7:00 P.M.
Prairie Rooms A & B
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS Betsy Adams, Chairperson; Ann Higgins,
Vice Chairperson; Richard Akerlund,
Nina Mackay, Mark McPherson,Ed Muehlberg,
Jane Plaza
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Claire Lukens, Mark Muston,Alexandra Shea
COMMISSION STAFF John Gertz, Historic Preservation Specialist
Peggy Rasmussen, Recorder
I. ROLL CALL
Adams called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m. All Commissioners were present.
Student Representative Lukens was absent. Seven high school students were in
attendance as part of a student government class.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Plaza moved, seconded by Akerlund, to approve the agenda as published.
Motion carried 7-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —JANUARY 28, 2008
Adams made a correction on page 5, the third paragraph, which should read "Adams said
the free banners for light poles at two City locations came as a result of an Eden Prairie
News article written by Karla Wennerstrom about the sesquicentennial. She and Gertz
received an e-mail from a woman saying she would like to donate banners."
MOTION: Mackay moved, seconded by Muehlberg, to approve the minutes of the
Heritage Preservation Commission meeting held on January 28, 2008 as corrected.
Motion carried 7-0.
IV. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. BOARD AND COMMISSION INTERVIEWS
Gertz reported that Muehlberg and Mackay reapplied for the HPC and were
interviewed by members of the City Council. Plaza is not continuing beyond the
March meeting, so another person is needed to complete the Commission. Gertz
said it would be better to fill the vacancy now, although the HPC can operate with
six members. Adams urged the Commissioners to ask people they know if they
would be interested in serving on the HPC.
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V. OLD BUSINESS
A. SESQUICENTENNIAL PLANNING
Higgins reported that Akerlund, Mackay and herself, the HPC's subcommittee on
the sesquicentennial, met with City staff members in February to talk about plans.
Joyce Lorenz, communications manager, will contact a graphic designer about
designing a logo representing the Eden Prairie sesquicentennial. Gertz will work
with Sandy Werts to prepare a budget request based on funding needs and
forward it to Scott Neal. Funds are needed to mail a packet of information to
community businesses, non-profits and organizations inviting them to plan and
participate in the sesquicentennial, and to supply buses for tours of Eden Prairie
historic sites and to the State Capitol. Higgins said Werts has an interest in
expanding the sesquicentennial celebration into events the City already has
planned for the year.
With regard to involving the School District, Adams said students at the high
school are interviewing some older members of the Historical Society to obtain
their oral histories. Higgins said Ron Case did an oral history project with his
students some time ago. The tapes from that project are in the possession of the
Historical Society. Higgins said there may be an opportunity to take up that
project on a smaller scale now and use the Council Chambers to make a video of
older citizens giving their oral histories.
Higgins said there would be an attempt to reach out to organizations and churches
to tell them what the City is planning to do and ask them what they can help with.
Adams provided a list of groups that she believes should participate in the
sesquicentennial planning. Adams said it is hoped there will be a representative
from each of these groups to get together and discuss their plans. The goal is
widespread awareness of the sesquicentennial. Adams said the City's Web site
can be used to get out the word, and probably the school's Web site could also be
used. Other groups might be interested in letting the community know they are
participating.
Adams reported that the Historical Society said they would like to include
information in the packet the City is sending out. They have chosen May 10 for
tours of the historic sites, and will dress in costume to man all of the locations.
They would like to have the City provide a brochure with a map that shows where
to go on the tour and place them at different locations in the City, perhaps at local
businesses. The packet being sent to businesses could include a card to return to
the City if they want some of the brochures. There will be buses that pick people
up and take them to various historic sites. Gertz said the sites would include the
J.R. Cummins Homestead, the Riley-Jacques Farmstead, the Dorenkemper House,
Central School gym, Staring Lake Outdoor Center, the Dunn Bros. Coffee/Smith-
Douglas-More House and one of the cemeteries. Plaza suggested including a
stop on the bluffs overlooking the river valley, with a discussion of its history and
the history of Flying Cloud Airport. Gertz agreed those were good suggestions
and should be incorporated in the tour.
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Gertz said the schedule of various events around May 11 would have to be
coordinated with the Historical Society. City staff is thinking about taking a bus
tour to the Capitol on May 11, and also on May 17 and 18 for the Statehood
Festival& Expo.
Gertz reported that printing the book, Eden Prairie: The First 100 Years, is on
track for reprinting, but he did not know whether or not it would be printed in-
house. With regard to the design of the logo, the communications manager is
getting three different logos drawn up, and the Commissioners can select the one
they prefer. The logo will be put on the Web site for anyone to use and it will be
printed on banners to be put out at the City parks. The Web page will be set up
with the schedule of events; they would include all the programs and events to
download. It will also include some historic photos. Adams said the Web site of
the late Ernie Schultz, called "Eden Prairie History", is still available to look at,
and it contains about 500 photos owned by the Historical Society.
Higgins said they had talked about the need to take note of the beginning of
organized governance in this area 150 years ago. Adams said the HPC would be
working with the School District and local newspaper prior to May 11. That is
when they have to start educating the public about the structure of the
government. It might be possible to have one of the theater groups use the
Council Chambers to portray the first town meeting. It could be filmed and
shown on the City's Web site and Channel 17. Adams suggested that it could also
be performed at the Riley-Jacques barn for the general public.
Akerlund said he has found out that the Mdewakanton Sioux are planning their
own celebration at the Mall of America; however, they are also willing to do
something with the City.
Gertz reported that Jessica Broveak, an intern working in the Parks and
Recreation Department, would be focusing on the sesquicentennial. There is a
meeting scheduled for the end of this week for further discussion of the plans.
Gertz received a phone call from Eden Prairie Magazine. They wanted to know
about programs and other information on the sesquicentennial that could be
published in the May issue. The deadline for that issue is March 10.
B. CUMMINS PROPERTY 106 REVIEW UPDATE
On February 12 Gertz met with City staff to discuss the parking plan for the
Cummins property. The Parks and Recreation Department staff agreed to prepare
plans that removed the lower row of stalls from the current "Concept F" plan.
Gertz said because the overall project is coming up to a deadline, the final
approval for parking has been added to the 106 Memorandum of Agreement
(MOA). The MOA is to document the mitigation steps agreed upon by all the
participants in the agreement with regard to the widening of Pioneer Trail.
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Gertz said the Parks and Recreation Department is required to mitigate the
parking area's effect on the property. It is expected that their revised plan will be
done within two-three weeks. Eliminating the lower row of parking would
remove one driveway, so there will be one drive lane serving two rows of parking.
Gertz said that would be a significant reduction in the size of the parking area.
The rest of the parking stalls would be moved west into the area of the ball fields.
Gertz explained that the HPC would be a signatory to the agreement because
approval of the parking plan will be included in the MOA. That means everybody
who is participating in the agreement has to sign off on the plan. If there is one
party that doesn't agree to it, the MOA becomes void, and it would be necessary
to start negotiations again on a new agreement. The HPC will need to look at the
MOA in terms of a site alteration permit for the Cummins property. That would
include the parking plan as well as the County's road-widening project.
Gertz said if he gets a revised parking plan from the Parks and Recreation
Department in the next month, he will send it to the Commissioners to look over.
It will also be sent to the SHPO for approval; then it would come back to the HPC
for a site alteration permit.
MnDOT has approved a contract for the landscape study. The City's Landscape
Architect, Bill Sawyer, the person who has been looking after the peony garden
for the past few years, told Gertz he would like to work with the HPC and the
people involved in the site study.
C. CLG GRANT UPDATE
Gertz received comments from the SHPO office on the CLG grant application
about how to strengthen the application by addressing how the grant works into
the statewide programs. He completed the changes to the final application, which
was signed by Scott Neal, and was delivered to the SHPO on February 20. Gertz
said he expected to hear from them in March about a Board review meeting where
he will make a presentation on the grant request. He should hear in March or
April whether or not the City will receive the grant.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. CITY COUNCIL/HPC WORKSHOP—APRIL 15
Gertz said the HPC has an opportunity to talk to the City Council on April 15,
beginning at 5:30 p.m., for about 45 minutes, about the reuse plan for the
Cummins House and the first draft of the updated preservation code. There would
not be another similar opportunity until next year. Gertz asked all Commissioners
to be present, if possible. Robert Vogel is planning to attend and will take the
lead on the Adaptive Use Study. Gertz would also like his input on the
preservation code. A certain amount of time can be set for each item.
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Gertz recommended that the March HPC meeting focus on the workshop. The
Commissioners will have a complete draft of the code then. Prior to the
workshop the City Council will get a draft of the updated code, the Adaptive Use
Study, and a memo about what the Commission wants to present. The Council
might give the HPC feedback on the reuse study at the meeting,but will not make
a decision at that time.
B. PARKING PLANS FOR DUNN BROS. COFFEE STORE
Gertz said Dunn Bros. is in need of additional parking at the coffee store. The site
plan shows 27 parking spaces. Gertz pointed out that the only practical way to
add more spaces would be on the north end of the property. A shed is there now,
which would be removed, but he would like to salvage some items, especially the
cupola on the shed. He asked the Commissioners to let him know if they have
some ideas about what items to salvage. A demolition permit would be required.
The Commissioners reviewed three possible proposals to add more parking
spaces. Gertz said whichever proposal is selected will require a site alteration
permit. Because the work might be done in-house, and cost would be a factor,
they may not be able to use green pavers, as previously discussed. Also, the hard
surface of the parking area has to be dealt with. The rain garden has been able to
handle the water runoff, but may not be able to handle the additional runoff from
a larger parking area, requiring them to find a new area to handle it. Muehlberg
asked if the depth of the existing rain garden could be modified. Gertz replied
that he would check into it. He pointed out that there will be a loss of some
existing parking when they construct the drive through the lot toward the new
parking area.
Gertz said the other issue is handicapped parking. Concept 3 addresses that.
There are two existing handicapped parking spaces. The cost for Concept 3 is
estimated to cost $25,500-$30,000 and would give 8 additional spaces, for a total
of 35 spaces. For $5,000 more, as shown in Concept 1, they could get 17
additional spaces. Concept 2 would add 9 spaces, at an estimated cost of$27,500.
Gertz said Dunn Bros. has not studied how often they have lost customers because
of the lack of parking. They would like to have a drive-through window, but that
cannot be done because of the added expense. There could be ten-minute parking
spaces. Mackay pointed out there is a learning center operating in the upper level,
so those spaces could be used when children are dropped off at the door.
Muehlberg suggested combining Concept 1 with Concept 3 so that more green
space could be captured. Gertz replied that providing a buffer between the
parking and the house is important for a historic site. Akerlund said the right type
of vegetation should be considered to soften the green space. Gertz replied he
would talk to the architect about that.
Higgins said her experience using handicapped parking showed her that it is best
to keep it close together. She also thought it would be a good idea to have space
available for ten-minute parking.
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Gertz said he received the CAD drawings of the site plan prepared by MacDonald
& Mack Architects and got permission to do the parking study and plans. The
CAD drawings were sent to Adam Feidt, the City's GIS coordinator, to
incorporate these ideas. He will lay these plans on top of the site plan. Gertz said
he would talk to engineering staff about runoff and come up with an idea on how
to handle it.
The HPC will be able to look at parking plan options again next month. Gertz
said he would see if the rain garden could be dug deeper. The shed will be
replaced by an enclosure for a garbage container. He told the Commissioners he
would appreciate knowing if they have any thoughts about additional ways to run
the traffic through. They can let him know by e-mail.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Akerlund moved, seconded by Mackay, to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 7-0. Adams adjourned the meeting at 8:25 p.m.