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PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 2007 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: John Brill, Chair; Geri Napuck, Vice Chair;
Rob Barrett, Tom Bierman, Lee Elliott-
Stoering, Jeffrey Gerst, Randy Jacobus, Ian
Mackay and Joan Oko
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT:
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Margaret Krause, John Ostendorf and
Steven Shouts
COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Jay Lotthammer, Parks and Recreation
Director; Laurie Obiazor, Recreation
Manager;
Stu Fox, Parks and Natural Resources
Manager; Wendy Sevenich, Community
Center Manager and Carol Pelzel,
Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order by Chair Brill at 7:00 p.m.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Lotthammer asked that an item be added under VIIL A. New Business —Verizon Cell
Tower Location.
Motion: Barrett moved, seconded by Jacobus, to approve the agenda as amended. The
motion carried, 9-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —OCTOBER 1, 2007
Napuck asked that the word "substantive" in the fifth paragraph on Page 3 and in the
second paragraph of Page 4 be changed to read "substantial".
Motion: Napuck moved, Mackay seconded, to approve the October 1, 2007, Parks,
Recreation and Natural Resources Commission minutes as corrected. The motion
carried, 7-0-2 with Elliott-Stoering and Gerst abstaining because of absence from
that meeting.
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IV. REPORT OF CITY COUNCIL ACTION— OCTOBER 2 AND OCTOBER 16, 2007
Lotthammer reported that at the October 2 City Council meeting, the Council approved
the scoreboard agreement with the Eden Prairie Baseball Association for a signature
scoreboard. The Council also conducted the first reading of the sidewalk and trails snow
removal ordinance. The second reading of the ordinance occurred on October 16 and the
City Council adopted the ordinance. Lotthammer further reported that at the October 16
Council meeting the Council authorized the purchase of a GPS unit that the Parks
Department will have the opportunity to use. This will assist the Parks Department in
laying out soccer fields and football fields in a more efficient manner. It will also help
them locate certain items in the parks such as utility lines. Lotthammer said the Council
also discussed the City's budget and additional information will be provided to the
Commission on that item later in the evening.
V. REPORT OF PLANNING COMMISSION
Fox reported that the Planning Commission reviewed a request from Presbyterian Homes
for a project to be located at the corner of Prairie Center Drive and Highway 212. They
are proposing to raze a 35 year old building and putting in its place a complex that will
include retail, senior housing and some open market housing. This project will be done in
phases and will include the sale of a parcel of City owned land on the corner of
Columbine and Prairie Center Drive. This item is scheduled to go to the City Council
within the next couple of weeks for the first reading. Fox said that there will be some
cash park dedication fees generated from this project. Fees were collected when the first
units were built and additional fees will be collected for the increased units in that area.
Bierman asked how this project would affect traffic and the City's Fire Department. Fox
explained that the buildings will have to meet fire code and no additional fire equipment
will be required. With regards to traffic, Fox explained that there will be some new street
patterns developed as a result of this development.
VI. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATION
A. DOG PARK UPDATES
Oko wanted to publicly thank Fox and his staff for taking care of the trees at the
dog park in Staring Lake. The work done was greatly appreciated by all of the
park users. They also appreciate the efforts made in removing the fence so that
they have access to the park. Oko reported that for the last two years they have
had an unofficial Halloween party at the park and this year they had 65 costumed
dogs in attendance for a two-hour event. Oko said it is nice to have full use and
safe use of the park.
Oko gave a brief report on the Bryant Lake dog park reporting that the gates
should be up this week with the opening occurring some time next week. There is
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no official open date. Bierman reported that 1,500 doggie bags have been secured
at this time for the dog park and dispensers are yet to be obtained.
VII. OLD BUSINESS
A. BUDGET UPDATE
Lotthammer reported that last week staff met with the City Council at a budget
work session and the City Manager presented Budget Version 1.8 to the City
Council. Essentially, Version 1.8 cuts are not as drastic as earlier versions. For
example, in Version 3.0 the Parks Department was required to make some drastic
changes to programming and park maintenance. Version 1.8 is very similar to
Version 2.0 which was shared with this Commission and resulted in
approximately $70,000 in cuts or revenue enhancements. Lotthammer further
reported that discussion at the City Council meeting did not revolve around
impacts to the various programs. Much of the time was spent on discussing the
Capital Improvement Program(CIP) funding. Another item discussed was wages
and how increases are given to City employees. Lotthammer said staff anticipates
further Council discussion but they are not sure if the Council will go to the level
of reviewing specific cuts to programs. Lotthammer said he believes the next step
is for the Council to make a decision on the final budget at their December 13
meeting.
Barrett asked if there was discussion by the City Council regarding this
Commission's recommendation to not make any cuts. Lotthammer said the
Council did not discuss the recommendation. He explained that staff also met
with the Arts and Cultural Commission and they made a similar motion.
Lotthammer said the Council was provided with a memo explaining both this
Commission's and the Arts Commission's recommendation along with copies of
their minutes.
Elliott-S toering said there had been some discussion about not acquiring some
land for trails. She asked where this is in the budget process. Lotthammer said
those items were included in the Budget Advisory Commission's
recommendation. He said he was not sure if those recommendations were
included in the version where some of the capital projects were cut. The City
Council has not specifically discussed capital projects. The Council suggested
that there are sufficient funds in the CIP to currently fund everything for the next
several years. The Council has not yet discussed cutting individual projects. This
may come up for debate when those projects are brought to the Council in 2008.
Brill asked what their flexibility is for adding new programming. He said if there
are opportunities or a need for a new program, how much flexibility do they have
over and above the $70,000 budget reduction to be able to make changes to their
programming. Lotthammer explained that in order to do a new program they
would have to look at other programs to see if they could reduce those programs
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in order to free up money for another area. Staff will have to be careful in other
areas so they don't overspend to allow them to react to new initiatives.
Napuck pointed out that somewhere in one of the budget versions funding for
maintenance of trails was eliminated. She asked where trail maintenance stands.
Fox explained that what they had asked for was additional funding in 2008 to
contractually take care of trail maintenance and to free up City staff to do other
things. Lotthammer said that with the new facilities they wanted staff to work in
those areas instead of being used on the trails. That funding was cut and they will
now maintain the trails in-house.
Bierman asked that when they put the Community Center referendum together,
should they have taken into account the additional on-going maintenance costs.
Fox said that at several meetings they were asked how much it would cost to
maintain the new facility. Staff was honest and open about the additional cost,
although we did not have exact dollar amount, we did have some accurate
estimates. Fox further explained that in this last budget cycle, there was a
combination of things that occurred including the appointment of the Budget
Advisory Commission who basically looked at the budget from their perspective.
The Budget Advisory Commission centered in on the operating costs and
questioned how much it would cost to operate the renovated Community Center.
Bierman asked that as a Commission, what should they have done differently.
Lotthammer pointed out that they also need to take into consideration the
revenues that will be coming in with the Community Center. One of the lessons
always learned is that no matter how many times you communicate costs not
everyone is on board. Members of the Budget Advisory Commission were not
included on the Community Center project from day one and when they got on
board they wanted to go back and look at what was said. In order to get this done,
there was a lot of discussion on the building side and capital side. If staff had
known what the capital side looked like, there would have been more dialogue on
what it would cost to operate and not assume people knew what staff was talking
about but understand that costs will increase. Revenues in 2009 will be greater
than in 2008 because of the timing of the opening of the Community Center.
Lotthammer said he believes the next conversation they will have regarding this
will be how close the operating margins should be for the Community Center.
Barrett said that as a Commission they need to do a better job. Any time they
bring major projects forward there is a variety of interest involved. They can't
always predict accurately the revenue side. They need to reflect long-term capital
improvement costs in the picture. This Commission has never approved a project
like the Community Center before. It's not that they didn't do a good job but there
are lessons to be learned. The downside to this is the term of the Commission
members. The next time another project like this comes forward there will
probably be another whole new Commission. Barrett said he believes they need to
be more deliberate in pointing out what the numbers are projected.
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Bierman said he thought the revenue would manage the maintenance costs.
Lotthammer said the analysis and budget was evolving. As the project got
smaller, revenues and expenses were impacted and while all of that was
occurring, the budget was being prepared. It wasn't that information wasn't
there,but probably wasn't widely publicized or looked at publicly. Lotthammer
stated that staff is comfortable that they have a good opportunity to meet the
revenue numbers and will continue to build the business. They are very excited to
get the Community Center up and running. Staff will be working hard on
marketing and selling this program.
Fox pointed out that the dollar amounts for the ice arenas are on-going expenses
at the Community Center. They have to take into consideration the age of the
building and know that there will be an on-going preventive maintenance
program. Barrett said this is something they will have to plan for in the future.
In response to a question from Brill, Lotthammer explained that there are a few
budget items specific to the Parks and Recreation Department that staff will
review with this Commission in 2008 for feedback and recommendations. The
Commission's recommendations will go directly to the City Council and not to
the Budget Advisory Commission.
B. CITIZEN SURVEY— COMMUNITY COMPARISON INFORMATION
Obiazor explained that at the last Commission meeting, the Commission asked for
a report on how Eden Prairie ranked in comparison to other communities. She
stated that this information is not available in a written form but is more of a
perceived judgment from Decision Resources that Eden Prairie rates higher in
satisfaction in certain areas.
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
A. VERIZON CELL TOWER LOCATION
Lotthammer explained that the City does have a policy regarding cell towers
being located in a public place. In this particular request, the request for locating a
cell tower on public land happens to be park land. The City has a lease
arrangement with the cell tower owner who pays the City for using the site and
for having access. Verizon has asked to install a tower on park property at Lake
Riley. Originally, they had looked at placing the tower at the entrance to the park.
Staff felt this would be difficult to screen since there are not a lot of trees at this
location. Staff is now recommending that the tower be placed between the tennis
court and basketball court. This is a large antenna and this site will allow it to be
surrounded by some fairly large trees. Should the Commission approve this
request, it would then be forwarded to the City Council for their consideration of
a lease agreement at their December 13 meeting.
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Peter Campbell, Verizon representative, explained that their landscape design is
an extensive design to mitigate the impact of this tower to the park. Because of
time limitations, the plans do not show the full extent of the landscape design.
The shelter at the base of the tower would be more difficult to see because of
screening. City ordinance does allow them to build a tower up to 65 feet and the
tower they are proposing will be 65 feet in height.
Oko asked what the distance of this tower would be from the lakeshore.
Lotthammer said it would be approximately 650 feet. Oko said she is concerned
that the tower would be used like a lightening rod to the beach area during a
storm. Campbell explained that the tower has a lightening rod on it and a
grounding system at the base. Oko asked if there is any chance of stray voltage
being an issue. Tate from Design One responded that there have been some
studies done on sites regarding stray voltage and it has been proven that this is not
the case. Verizon has a very extensive grounding system to protect their
equipment located in the shelter valued at$500,000. Oko asked if it would be
possible to have the tower painted a different color to look more like a tree as
opposed to what is proposed. Campbell said they can paint it a different color,
however, when they try to make it look like a tree they draw the people's eye to
it. They do paint the towers depending on a municipality's request and depending
on the vegetation in the area. Verizon uses galvanized towers in other
municipalities and some of them are painted white when there is no other
vegetation nearby. He further explained that a white tower at this location would
probably not look right because of the vegetation and he would suggest that if
they are to paint it, it be painted brown.
Bierman questioned the precedent that would be set by allowing Verizon to place
this tower in Riley Park. Campbell explained that the City's ordinance requires
that it be shown that no other towers or buildings in the area would accommodate
their equipment. It also allows carriers to co-locate on other towers within one-
half mile. This tower proposed at this location will be co-locatable by other
carriers allowing them to attach their antenna to Verizon's structure. Bierman
asked if it would become common in the future to allow these towers in City
parks. Fox explained that there is a tower located at the Senior Center that has
three different cell phone vendors on it. Throughout the City, there are several
street light poles that have antennas on them and there are other cell phone
locations all over the City. Fox further explained that this is a unique situation. In
the last five years staff has had conversations about putting cell towers in certain
parks. In this instance, there is sufficient coverage but the Commission must
decide if they want a 65 foot that is difficult to hide. The light poles at Miller Park
are 60 feet high on the soccer field and 70 feet to 80 feet high on the baseball
fields. The 65 foot tower is the same height as the poles they use for athletic
lighting. Bierman asked if there are any homes that are close to this site and
would they be able to see the tower. Fox responded that the tower is located about
650 feet from the beach area and the nearest homes are located on the south side
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of the golf course. The tower will be tucked back so it can't be seen from the
entrance to the park.
Elliott-S toering asked about the terms of the lease between the City and Verizon.
Campbell said it would be a 25-year lease. When Verizon leaves the site, they
will bring it back to its original state as required by the lease.
Oko said that Verizon leases the land from the City and in turn, Verizon can lease
space on the tower to other providers. She asked if the City generates any
additional revenue when Verizon leases space on their tower. Campbell
responded that in order for another carrier to attach to the tower, that carrier
would have to lease ground space from the City.
Elliott-S toering asked if there would be tree loss as a result of the excavation and
grading for the equipment facility. Campbell said there would be one tree lost but
they are planting a significant number of additional trees in that area. Elliott-
Stoering asked if the revenue generated from this lease goes into the Parks and
Recreation fund since it is in a City park. Lotthammer responded that those funds
go into the City's General Fund and it is not the Parks Department's
responsibility to negotiate the lease amount.
Mackay asked if there would be any digging for placing fiber underground to the
towers. Campbell explained that they would not be running fiber. They will be
using the nearest telephone or power lines from Riley Lake Road. Mackay also
asked if their proposed natural gas generator is common for these types of towers.
Campbell said it is very common. The generator will be tested once a month
during the day and it typically runs for an hour at full load for testing. In response
to a question from Mackay, Campbell explained that the generator sounds like a
vacuum cleaner when it is at 100 percent. The generator is also located in a sound
enclosure. Mackay asked if the tower needs a light on the top of it. Campbell said
the FAA regulates this and he does not believe the FAA would require one.
Elliott-S toering questioned if notification has been sent to the surrounding
neighbors informing them of the proposed tower. She also asked about access to
the tower and if it could be climbed. Tate responded that they would remove the
climbing pegs from the tower. There will be a fence around the shelter area.
Campbell explained that they have to go through the full Conditional Use Permit
process which will include notification to the community. Fox said he anticipates
that the notification area would be expanded to make sure that the people adjacent
to this site are notified.
Jacobus expressed concern for the noise generated by this facility because of its
placement to the tennis courts. Tate explained that there would be an air
conditioning unit on the side of the shelter and the noise level would be the same
as a home air conditioner. Jacobus said if the units are noisy, people would not
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want to use the park. Campbell said the design is to try and help with the noise so
that it is seamless in the park.
Motion: Bierman moved, seconded by Barrett, to recommend that the City
negotiate a 25-year lease with Verizon wireless for the installation of one painted
brown cell phone tower at Riley Lake not to exceed 65 feet in height and
supporting ground structures that will be landscaped to minimize visual ground
effects and said tower to be located as proposed on the Riley Park site plan dated
October 31, 2007. The Commission further recommends that because this tower is
being installed on park land rather than traditional City locations, all annual lease
fees be placed into the Park Reserve Fund. The motion carried, 9-0.
IX. REPORTS OF STAFF
A. DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION
1. PRNR Meeting Work Plan
Lotthammer asked the Commission to start thinking about items they
would like addressed in 2008. Those items will then be added to the
Commission's work plan and will allow staff to structure the
Commission's 2008 agendas.
The following items were presented to the Commission as informational
items:
■ Veterans' Day Flag Raising —November 11, 11 a.m. at Purgatory
Creek Park
■ City offices and Senior Center closed November 12, 22 and 23;
Community Center closed November 22
■ Town Meeting —November 27, 7 p.m., Fire Station 4
Brill suggested that there be a naming ceremony for the Lambert Pavilion.
Lotthammer said they have not yet talked about any naming ceremony.
Brill said he felt that would be appropriate.
Mackay asked what would be covered at the scheduled town meeting.
Obiazor explained that the Council wanted to hold two town meetings per
year. There are no specific topics but gives residents the opportunity to
come forward with any City related issues.
B. MANAGER OF RECREATION SERVICES
1. Sprinp,/Summer Recreation Program Review
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Obiazor presented an overview of the 2007 spring/summer recreation
programs. She shared with the Commission the highlights of the programs
offered this spring and summer. This was the first year that the
Communication Division worked with the Parks and Recreation
Department and improvements were made to the program brochures.
Obiazor reviewed the participation in each of the programs with a total of
81,313 participants for 2007. In response to a question from Elliott-
Stoering, Obiazor explained the Passport to Fun Scholarship Program and
indicated that this item would be brought back to the Commission at their
next meeting for further discussion.
The following items were presented to the Commission as information
items only:
■ Winter 2008 Program brochure—mail to all residents on
November 17
■ Cummins House Christmas —December 2
C. MANAGER OF PARKS AND NATURAL RESOURCES
1. Park Projects Update
Fox presented the Commission with a 2007 Park Construction Summary
and Update. Fox reviewed with the Commission the various projects
relating to the 2005 Referendum. He also reviewed general park
construction projects and provided the Commission with a park
construction summary for 2007.
2. Sidewalks & Trails Snow Removal
Fox pointed out that this item had been discussed earlier in the evening
under City Council action. The City Council adopted an ordinance that
specified the various responsibilities for snow and ice removal from trails
and sidewalks within the City. The result of this ordinance is that the City
will be responsible for nearly the same amount of miles of trails and
sidewalks that the City previously plowed under the old policy. The
difference is that the trails and sidewalks that are cleared by the City are
located adjacent to streets and roads that are classified as major collector
routes and will not be taking care of sidewalks in residential street areas.
A copy of the ordinance was included in the Commission's agenda
material.
D. COMMUNITY CENTER MANAGER
1. Community Center Renovation Update
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Sevenich presented an overview of the Eden Prairie renovation and
expansion project. She reported that the targeted completion date for the
renovation is March 1, 2008. They anticipate the Fitness Center and
Group Fitness Studio opening January 2, 2008 with the expanded men's
and women' locker rooms available January 2. The front entrance will be
available on or before March 1 and the childcare facilities and play
structure are planned to open on or before May 1. Sevenich further
reported that the third ice arena is scheduled to open in September.
Membership enrollment began November 1, 2007. Sevenich reviewed
with the Commission the membership rates and perks and explained the
preparation they are doing for the opening of the Community Center.
2. Community Center Policies
Sevenich reported that the Community Center management team reviewed
and updated the policies and guidelines that will be used to maintain the
Community Center and use of the amenities. A copy of those policies was
included in the Commission's agenda material.
X. NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Commission is scheduled for Monday, December 3, 2007
at 7:00 p.m. in Heritage Rooms 1 and 2.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Mackay moved, Barrett seconded, to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried
9-0. The meeting was adjourned at10:00 p.m.