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Board of Adiustments & Appeals
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 3, 2002 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
BOARD: Cliff Dunham, Chairperson; Louis Giglio, Ismail
Ismail, Michael O'Leary, Greg Olson Anthony
Ramunno and Randy Stroot
STAFF: Jean Johnson, Zoning Administrator
Carol Pelzel,Recorder
GUESTS: Brian Duggan, 9928 Lawson Lane
Sever Peterson, 15900 Flying Cloud Drive
Mark and Sarah Halvorson, 11818 Thornhill
Road
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Dunham called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL—PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Cliff Dunham, Louis Giglio, Ismail Ismail, Michael O'Leary(arrived at 7:08'
p.m.) and Anthony Ramunno
Absent: Greg Olson, and Randy Stroot
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Motion/Second: Ismail/Giglio, to approve the agenda as published. Motion carried 4-0.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of September 19, 2002
Giglio asked that the minutes reflect that he was absent from that meeting and that he did not
arrive at 7:08 p.m. Also,his name should be deleted from Page 4 of the minutes.
Motion/Second: Ismail/Ramunno, to approve the September 19, 2002, minutes as corrected.
Motion carried 3-0-1 with Giglio abstaining because of absence from that meeting.
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III: VARIANCES
A. Request#2002-08 by Maud and Brian Duggan of 9928 Lawson Lane for approval of
an 8 foot variance from a 20 foot rear lot line setback requirement for a house
addition 12 feet from the rear lot line. (The variance for the deck 14 feet from the
rear lot line was approved at the September 19, 2002 meeting).
Brian Duggan presented a brief summary of the September 19 last meeting and at
that time they were requesting a variance for a deck as well as for an addition. The
Board did approve the request for the deck but continued the variance for the
addition at that meeting. Duggan explained that they have now modified their
request by reducing the width of the addition by 5 feet and the depth by 1 foot. This
would result in the addition being 2.5 feet away from the property line. Duggan said
he did present the new proposal to Harold Johnson, the adjoining property owner.
Johnson did prefer this proposal because the removal of one tree is preferable to
removing a grove of trees. Duggan said they have also modified the inside of the
house to reduce the overall space of the mudroom.
Ismail asked what the effect of this request would be on the neighbor whose property
adjoins this parcel. Duggan explained that they did stake out the original request and
two other options. Of the three options presented, the adjoining neighbor liked the
proposal presented this evening the best. He is concerned about the preservation of
the trees and felt that this was the best option.
Johnson reported that she has no additional information to add to her staff report.
Staff has received no other calls on this proposal.
Dunham opened the public hearing. Having no one appear, Dunham closed the
public hearing.
Ismail said he is comfortable with the solution presented this evening since it does
reduce the size of the request. O'Leary asked the applicant to explain exactly what
he is requesting this evening. Duggan stated that they took 5 feet off of the width and
1 foot from the depth resulting in an addition 14.5 feet from the rear lot line rather
than 12 feet as originally requested. This is a request for a 5.5-foot variance from a
20-foot rear lot line setback requirement. In response to a question from Ramunno,
Duggan displayed a plan showing the configuration of the addition. The adjustments
resulted in an addition going from 22 feet wide to 17 feet and from 10 feet long to 9
feet.
Dunham said he feels the plan is certainly better than originally submitted, however,
he still has reservations about the need to add another bedroom and the need to go
closer to the rear lot line in that fairly crowded area when there are other areas the
house could be expanded. Duggan responded that they only had one neighbor who
objected to the size of the addition. In talking with the other neighbors, they didn't
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necessarily have a problem with the addition but did indicate they would object to
the addition if it were built to the south because of the necessity of removing trees.
Duggan said that under City guidelines they would be allowed to build within the
trees to the south,however,the neighbors are opposed to this. Duggan said they
want to preserve the beauty of the neighborhood and would like to stay in this area.
The addition allows them to have their au pair on the same level as their children.
Any other option would disturb the natural habitat of the neighborhood.
O'Leary pointed out that it doesn't necessarily matter what the current neighbors
say, however,they do take that into consideration when considering the request.
O'Leary said his primary concern is with the neighbor that is directly affected by this
addition and the applicant has indicated that he is okay with the revised plan. It
appears that the hardship would be the odd shape of the lot and the preservation of
the trees.
Motion/Second: O'Leary/Ismail, to approve Request#2002-08 for approval of a 5.5
foot variance from a 20 foot rear lot line setback requirement for a house addition
14.5 feet from the rear lot line with the hardship being the odd shape of the lot which
includes trees. The motion carried, 4-1 with Dunham voting nay.
Request#2002-09 for the Sever Peterson Family for 18700 Flying Cloud Drive for a
building moving from 18700 Flying Cloud Drive to 15190 Riverview Road.
Peterson explained that he is asking permission to move a house from Anderson
Park to his property. He explained that the house would be completely functional as
a home for their farm manager and his family. One of the issues they were faced
with was that the location where they were moving the house to was just under two
acres. They did combine this parcel with other adjacent property to make it a ten-
acre parcel, which is the minimum lot size required. The City has also asked that
there be land dedicated for a road on the south side. Peterson said they would
certainly be willing to do whatever necessary to dedicate the necessary land for the
road. Peterson indicated that another issue brought to his attention is a row of trees
immediately to the northwest that are 35 feet tall and do provide some shielding. It is
his intention to plant additional trees between the house and the highway. They
would plant fast growing and longer lasting trees to the east and south of the
property.
Ismail questioned the orientation of the house. Peterson said it is their intent to orient
the house exactly as it currently sits. The sun porch on the south side would be
oriented toward the river valley. Ismail asked if the petitioner has reviewed the
conditions of approval prepared by staff and if he is in agreement with them.
Peterson said he has reviewed them. It is their intent to move this house as soon as
possible. With regard to condition"c",they have combined the 2-acre parcel with
adjacent properties to make it 10 acres and he is asking that condition"c"be
removed. Peterson stated that the billboards referred to in condition"e" are not on
the reconfigured property where the house is being moved, therefore, this condition
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is no longer relevant. Giglio asked if the asbestos has been removed from this
building. Peterson explained that they have completed an asbestos survey of the
house and have arranged to have it removed. Dunham questioned if there was any
lead paint in the house. Peterson responded that it is his understanding that lead paint
is not an issue. Ismail asked if the City Engineer needs to inspect this property.
Johnson explained that electrical permits and inspections will be done by the State
and City once the house is moved.
With regard to the conditions, Dunham asked if the applicant will be able to move
the house by October 25 and if they would be able to obtain an occupancy permit by
the end of the year. Peterson said he was not sure how long it will take since he has
never moved a house. They have talked to all of the people involved to coordinate
the move and are very eager to get started.
Johnson presented the staff report explaining that the proposed location for the house
is Rural, a 10 acre minimum lot size required. The house location meets all of the
setbacks for the Rural District and the septic system plan has been submitted to the
City and will have to meet all State and local requirements. Staff has received no
calls in opposition for the moving of the house. The billboards will have to be
addressed when a proposal comes before the City for that property or when the Fish
and Wildlife acquires it. In response to a question from O'Leary, Johnson explained
that the dates in the conditions are necessary to provide deadlines for the removal of
the house. Dunham said he agrees that there should be deadline dates,however,he
questioned if two months is sufficient. Johnson said the October 25 date is the same
date that is in the agreement between Peterson and the City to have the house moved
off of the City property.
Dunham opened the public hearing. Having no one appear,Dunham closed the
public hearing.
Motion/Second: Giglio/O'Leary, to approve the moving of a building from 18700
Flying Cloud Drive to 15190 Riverview Road with the following conditions:
a. The building move to the new location be completed by October 25, 2002.
b. That all necessary permits and inspections be completed and an occupancy
permit be obtained by January 31, 2003.
C. That the 2-acre remnant be retained with the parcel on the north side of US
212 (Parcel 331162222001).
d. Road dedication, as deemed necessary by the City Engineering
Department,be provided by November 25, 2002.
e. If any of the conditions are not met, the applicant must return to the Board
for review of a requested extension or possible removal of the building.
End of Motion.
f. The applicant will discuss with City staff the planting of trees to shield the
house.
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The motion carried, 5-0.
B. Request#2002-010 for Mark and Sarah Halvorson for 11818 Thornhill Road for
approval for a two-foot variance from the 30 feet required front lot line setback,
for a garage addition, to a 28 feet front lot line setback.
Sarah Halvorson explained that they have outgrown their garage and they would
like to stay in the neighborhood and house. They would like to expand the garage
as well as the mudroom. Halvorson stated that they have not yet finalized the
mudroom configuration. Their family has grown from two to five people. With
three young children they need more space in both the garage and
mudroom/entryway. The purpose of the addition is twofold. They need additional
space in their garage and with the area they use to get into their house 90 percent
of the time. The existing mudroom and entryway is extremely small. Halvorson
said they had initially thought about expanding their garage westward. An
addition to the west would further decrease the space between their house and the
neighbor's house. Halvorson pointed out that the west side is also the only access
to their back yard and they would rather not lose the space that they currently
have. Halvorson explained that they did talk to their neighbors and explained
what they are proposing. None of the neighbors had any objections to the
proposal. The neighbor to the west preferred this proposal rather than expansion
towards his property.
Ismail asked if the applicant intends to add a third car stall. Halvorson responded
that they are not intending to add a third stall. They are looking for more storage
space in their garage. Ramunno said he is trying to determine what the impact of
the addition will have on the home. Giglio asked if this only a one-story addition.
Halvorson said it is. Giglio said he feels the house will look nicer because of the
grade and will eliminate the box like effect.
Dunham pointed out that the house is on the curve and does start to stick out to
the view line around the corner. He asked if the applicant has given any thought to
adding just five feet and not requiring a variance. The inside of the garage would
be 21.5 feet with a six-foot mudroom. Dunham said he feels this would be
adequate and he questioned what the additional two-feet would be needed for.
Halvorson responded that they have five bikes, garbage cans and all of the other
things that come with three children. They do have a shed to alleviate some of the
storage in the garage on a seasonal basis,however,they still do not have adequate
storage. They do keep one car in the garage. Dunham said the additional two-feet
would not alleviate that much storage and they could leave their car out.
Halvorson said they do not like to leave a car parked outside.
Johnson presented her staff report stating that the zoning on this property is Rl-
13.5 and is a planned unit development. Variances were granted when this area
was developed permitting a setback of ten-feet from the side property lines. The
applicant's garage presently sits back 35 feet from the front and the requirement is
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30 feet. Johnson reviewed the applicant's options. Staff received no calls or letters
in opposition to this request.
Dunham opened the public hearing. Having no one appear,he closed the public
hearing.
O'Leary said he feels that what the applicant is asking is reasonable. Giglio said
since the applicant is not proposing to build up,the addition will look nicer than
what currently exists. He does understand concerns for the house getting closer to
the street,however,this should not be a problem as long as the applicant builds to
the plans presented this evening. Ramunno said he is struggling with the hardship.
O'Leary pointed out that part of the problem is the way the homes were set out
when this area was developed. They could have been set back further to create
more space between the houses.
Motion/Second: O'Leary/Giglio,to approve variance request#2002-10 for a two-
foot variance from the 30-feet required front lot line setback, for a garage
addition, and that the addition be no more than one story with the hardship being
the setback of the original development. The motion carried 4-1,with Dunham
voting nay.
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
Johnson reported that there are no items scheduled at this time for next month's
meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
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