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Approved Minutes
Board of Adjustments & Appeals
THURSDAY,DECEMBER 12, 2002 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
BOARD: Cliff Dunham, Chairperson; Louis Giglio, Ismail
Ismail, Michael O'Leary, Greg Olson Anthony
Ramunno and Randy Stroot
STAFF: Jean Johnson, Zoning Administrator
Carol Pelzel, Recorder
GUESTS: Mark Zierden, 6622 Golden Ridge Drive
CALL TO ORDER
Vice-Chairperson Giglio called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL—PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Louis Giglio, Ismail Ismail, Michael O'Leary, Greg Olson, Anthony Ramunno
and Randy Stroot
Absent: Cliff Dunham
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Motion/Second: Ismail/Stroot, to approve the agenda as published. Motion carried 6-0.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of November 14, 2002
Motion/Second: Ismail/Olson,to approve the November 14, 2002,minutes as presented. Motion
carried 4-0-2 with Giglio and Ramunno abstaining because of absence from that meeting.
III: VARIANCES
Request#2002-12 by Mark and Kim Zierden for 6622 Golden Ridge Drive for approval of a 13-
foot 5-inch variance from a 30-foot required front yard setback for a garage addition to be 6-feet
7-inches from the front property line.
Zierden explained the scope of his project and what he would like to do. The house
was built in the 1960's and is a walkout rambler. The previous owner converted the
garage into a family room and built a new garage in front with a sunroom in the
back. Zierden said they would like to add an entryway and third car stall to their
garage. They propose to bring the front of the existing garage out to eliminate a
"nose" shaped addition. The applicant stated that his family does need the additional
space for storage to eliminate them having to store their things outside and in the
house. Zierden indicated that the previous builder who did not like square lots
created the hardship. The first 23 feet of his front yard from the street is not his
property but belongs to the City. He explained that his original plan was to put the
garage on the other side of the house, however, that would also require a variance
and an easement. He also explored a land swap with his neighbor but found that
would require his neighbor to refinance his mortgage, which he did not want to do.
Zierden said he did discuss the addition with affected neighbors and they have no
problems with the proposal. He pointed out that his setback will remain equal too or
greater than his neighbors. Zierden explained that the hardship is the property line
and the unusual shape of the lot.
Ismail asked where the main entry to the house would be located. Zierden showed on
a map the location of the new ga rage and the covered porch and entryway. Ismail
asked if the addition would affect the front of the house. Zierden responded that he is
taking the current garage and moving it to the right ten feet and forward roughly
eight or nine feet to the side. This will be a single-car garage. The addition will look
different,but not hugely different from the existing structure. In response to a
question from Giglio, Zierden explained that this is the only option for constructing
the addition. If they did build on the side, a variance would still be required.
Johnson presented the staff report explaining that this is an older neighborhood with
one-half acre or greater lots. The street was rebuilt a couple of years ago with utiliti
es in a 50-foot right-of-way. The new street construction is not centered in the right-
of-way because of existing trees, homes and topography. Most of the homes in the
area have double stall garages. Neighbors have come in to review the plans but have
not registered any concerns. Olson questioned the 23-foot right-of-way located on
this site. Johnson explained that they had to shift the road to the other side of the
right-of-way and the City may still need that right-of-way for future utilities since
there is no space available on the other side of the street.
Giglio opened the public hearing. Having no one appear, Giglio closed the public
hearing.
O'Leary said he is not always in favor of granting such a variance, however, with the
additional,23-foot right-of-way, the addition would still be set back equal to his
neighbors. The addition will add aesthetic value to the home. O'Leary said he sees
this addition as being fair and positive. Ramunno said that in looking at the plan the
garage is independent of the house. He questioned the hardship in relation to the
extra garage stall space. Giglio pointed out that the hardship is the physical character
of the property. He indicated that without the 23-foot right-of-way he would not be
in favor of this request.
Motion/Second: O'Leary/Ismail,to approve Request#2002-12 for approval of a 13-
foot 5-inch variance from a 30-foot required front yard setback for a garage addition
to be 16-feet 7-inches from the front property line with the hardship being the odd
shape of the lot and the right-of-way of the road. Granting of this variance would
only be for the garage and an addition above the garage could not be added at a later
date. The motion carried, 6-0.
OLD BUSINESS
Johnson explained that Request#2002-0 4 at 16717 Camborne Place considered in May included
a mother-in-law apartment. This project was started about a month ago and does not include such
an apartment. The applicant said their plans changed and the addition is now a two-story wood
working shop. Johnson indicated that City staff would monitor this location to be sure no
business is operated from it.
NEW BUSINESS
Johnson reported that there are no items scheduled at this time for next month's meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion/Second: Ismail/Olson to adjourn the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 7:35 p.m.
Approved Minutes
Board of Adjustments & Appeals
WEDNESDAY, MAY 9, 2002 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
BOARD: Cliff Dunham, Chairperson; Louis Giglio,
Ismail Ismail, Michael O'Leary, Greg
Olson Anthony Ramunno and
Randy Stroot
STAFF: Jean Johnson, Zoning Administrator
Carol Pelzel, Recorder
GUESTS: Lisa Kollander and Larry Olson,
16717 Camborne Place
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Dunham called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL —PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Present: Cliff Dunham, Louis Giglio, Ismail Ismail, Michael O'Leary,
Greg Olson and Randy Stroot.
Absent: Anthony Ramunno
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Motion/Second: Ismail/Giglio, to approve the agenda as published.
Motion carried 6-0.
IL APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of April 11, 2002
Motion/Second: Ismail/ Giglio, to approve the April 11 minutes as published.
Motion carried 6-0.
III. VARIANCES
A. Request#2002-04 by Lisa Kollander and Larry Olson at 16717
Camborne Place for approval for a 16-foot variance from a 30-foot setback
requirement for construction of a garage and house addition 14-feet from the
front property line (Whittington Walk).
Dunham explained that this item had been continued from the April 11 meeting
to allow the applicant an opportunity to come up with another plan that would be
acceptable to the Board and to have input from affected neighbors.
L. Olson explained that their request has been modified from their original
request. Originally they were requesting a 16-foot variance for an additional
garage and building above that garage. He stated that they are now asking for a
12-foot wide third stall garage onto their existing two-car garage. At this time
they are not proposing any structure above the existing two-car garage or above
the third-stall. Kollander indicated that rather than build a mother-in-law
apartment above the garage they are now proposing to add an additional 12-feet
to their existing garage to be used for her mother's car and to build a sta irway
from the garage into their existing basement for access to a mother-in-law's
apartment. Kollander stated that they need 12 feet to make sure they have
enough room to add the stairway into the basement. This appears to be the most
feasible and easiest solution.
Dunham asked if the applicant has reviewed this new proposal with their
neighbors. Kollander responded that they have. They sent out a packet of
information including a drawing showing the existing structure and how it would
look after the addition. The information also included the setbacks. Kollander
said they did speak to the affected neighbors. Ismail asked if they still plan to
build on top of the garage. Kollander indicated that they do not plan to do so at
this time. They are currently proposing one additional third-car stall. Dunham
asked what type of material would be used for the front of the garage. Kollander
said they would be using brick even though it will not be a perfect match. The
garage does sit back a little so the match will not be that noticeable.
Johnson presented the staff report stating that notices were sent to residents
within 500 feet of the subject property. City staff has not received any calls or
comments on this new request.
Dunham opened the public hearing. Having no one appear, Dunham closed the
public hearing.
O'Leary said he did ha ve concerns with the original request. The applicant was
proposing to make some significant changes to the appearance of the house. The
new proposal appears to be a very nice attribute to the property and he has no
problems with the revised request. Giglio said he agrees. He realizes this is not
exactly what the petitioner wanted but it is much more in character with the
neighborhood. Ismail said he feels the applicant did a good job in coming back
with these changes and he personally does not see any problem with what was
presented this evening.
Motion/Second: O'Leary/Giglio, to approve vari ance request#2002-04 for a
12-foot wide garage addition 18 feet back from the front property line abutting
Whittington Walk with the stipulation that no living space be constructed above
the garage addition with the hardship being the usual complexities of a corner
lot. The motion carried 6-0.
B. Request#2002-05 by the City of Eden Prairie for approval to allow a ca.
1850's his toric log building to be moved to Riley Lake Park. The proposed
location is at the northwest side of the historic Riley-Jacques farm site. The log
building is approximately 900 square feet in size. The future use of the building
is for historic restoration and interpretive purposes.
Johnson reported that John Gertz, the City's Historic Preservation Specialist,
was unable to attend this meeting so she would be presenting this item. She
explained that Dan Herbst, President of Pemtom Land Company, has offered to
move and restore for the City use of a ca. 1850's log home. This log house was
located in Herbst's Settl ers Ridge development along Pioneer Trail. The house
was moved from its original site on March 13 and relocated to the Riley-Jacques
Farm historic site for storage. Johnson stated that residents within 500 feet of
the new location for the log home were notified. City staff has received no calls
or comments from the mailed notices The Historic Preservation Commission
did review this request and approved it as well as the Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources Commission. The moving of the house and the restoration
will be done by the developer and then given to the City.
O'Leary asked if the ho use would be located across Riley Lake Road from
Bearpath. Johnson responded that it would be about 450 feet away from
Bearpath. Olson asked why the log house was moved. Johnson explained that
the developer discovered that this building had some historic importance to it.
The area where the house was located was approved for townhomes and utility
work was starting this month. If it were not moved, it may have been
demolished.
Motion/Second: Giglio/Ismail, to approve moving request#2002-05 for
approval to allow a ca. 1850's his toric log building to be moved to Riley Lake
Park. Motion carried 6-0.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
V. NEW BUSINESS
Johnson reported that she has received two new items for next month. One
request is for consideration of a garage addition and the other is a sport court,
which is considered an accessory structure that requires a 10-foot setback.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
Motion/Second: Ismail/O'Leary, to adjourn the meeting at 7:25 p.m. Motion
carried,
6-0.