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BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 9, 1997 7:30 P.M. CITY CENTER
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
8080 MITCHELL ROAD
BOARD OF APPEALS MEMBERS: Chair Kathy Nelson, Cliff Dunham,
Delavan Dye, William Ford, Louis
Giglio, Matthew Hansen, Michael
O'Leary
STAFF LIAISON: Steve Durham, Zoning Administrator
Elinda Bahley, Recording Secretary
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Nelson called the meeting to order at 7 : 30 p.m.
• ROLL CALL
All members were present.
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Dye moved, seconded by Dunham, to approve the
agenda as published. Motion carried 7-0.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - September 11, 1997
MOTION: Dye moved, seconded by Giglio, to approve the
minutes of the September 11, 1997 Board of Adjustments
and Appeals meeting as published. Motion carried 7-0.
III. VARIANCES
A. Request #97-15 by Doug and Nancy Heltne for
property located at 6941 Beach Road, Eden Prairie:
1. To permit the construction of a single family
home 79, from the Ordinary High Water Level of
Bryant Lake. (City Code requires a shoreland
setback from the Ordinary High Water Level of
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2. To permit the construction of a single family
home with a front yard setback of 1051 . (City
Code requires a front yard setback to be equal
to or greater than the average of the
principle structureson either side, in this
case 1261 . )
John Atkinson, architect, representing the Heltnes,
reviewed the variances requested to construct a
home 79 ' from the Ordinary High Water Level of
Bryant-Lake with a front yard setback of 1051 . He
explained they would like to be 20 feet closer to
the shore than the allowed and an extra 20 feet off
the road. He referred to a letter he received from
the owner of Lot #18 which indicated they feel
moving the house closer to the Lake with a 15 ' side
_-yard__setback will be infringing on their view of
the lake. Atkinson said both lot lines are well
treed making it very difficult to see the lake
anyway. He explained why they have situated the
house in this particular spot.
Dunham asked if they have explored other options in
terms of the footprint of the house to minimize the
variances . Atkinson said yes . Instead of a three
car garage, they would be willing to make it a two
car garage which would take 12 feet off the front.
Dye said with some -consideration of changing the
pad, such as centering the house more, it might
change the variances and stop the letters the City
has received from Lot #18 . Atkinson explained why
this was the best spot for the house and why other
considerations were not feasible.
Nelson asked if they considered moving the master
bedroom toward the street rather than going back
out. There are some site lines from the house next
to it and it would not necessarily change the
arrangement of the room. She asked if anything has
been looked at for keeping that end of the house
not quite as close to the lake by jogging the plan
a bit. Atkinson said they might be able to come up
with something but it ' s a matter of preference at
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this point.
Durham reviewed the staff report and noted the
property is located in the Cove Addition and is
zoned R1-22 . Most of the homes in the Cove were
constructed in the 1960 ' s prior to the City' s
Shoreland Code regulations. Letters have been sent
to the DNR notifying them of the variances
requested and there was no reply. However, there
are concerns from the neighbors to the south.
Staff discussed alternatives with the applicants
architect prior to coming to the Board about
placing the house in different positions to lessen
the variance or design the house to completely meet
Code. The applicant preferred coming to the Board.
Hansen asked what the distance is to the lake from
the existing home. Durham said the existing home
is 86 feet from the Ordinary High water Level but
the deck on the existing house was 74 feet from the
Ordinary High water Level . The distance from the
lake to the proposed home is 79 feet including the
deck.
The public hearing was opened.
Mrs. Molde, residing at 6961 Beach Road, noted they
live in the house to the south in lot #18 . She
said they will be glad to have new neighbors
because the house has been vacant for a while. The
plans look beautiful but her concern is with the
variances . She was concerned that the variance
would impact their views of the lake from the ncrth
side of the house. Each foot that is granted in
the variance towards the lake will impact their
view to the lake on that side. They did not oppose
them going closer to the street because it does not
impact them. It would not impact anyone because
there' s a large pond there. They would prefer the
setback to be kept at 100 feet and go closer to the
road in the front.
Carolyn Bjelland, 6881 Beach Road, noted they live
three doors down from the home to be built. She
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said they are not impacted at all by what they do
because she does riot see it. She was concerned
about making variances become a principle way of
buying -a lot, tearing the house down and then
--wanting a variance. When someone buys a house they
should know what the lot is and what the setback
rules are and live with it.
Mr.Molde, 6681 Beach Road, said he looks forward to
new neighbors and commended the architect on the
plan . 11 He said he has no objection to moving
closer to the street. His primary concern was the
major value of these lots and the taxes . The taxes
_ are high because of the lake views and they have to
protect that value.
The public hearing was closed.
Hansen-asked if the architect looked at floor plans
that didn' t have an L-shaped footprint. There is a
huge building area but there' s a lot of envelope
that ' s taken out by a driveway, and there' s a lot
of it unused on the north side of the garage. It
seems if the architect started with that envelope,
they could put a larger house than proposed in
there not requiring any variances . Atkinson said
they tried a lot of different schemes and nothing
was really to their approval.
Hansen asked what the depth of the house is not
including the garage. Atkinson replied the depth
of the house is maybe 45 to 50 feet without the
garage.
Ford asked if they would consider he moving
the
foot
building to the north maintaining t
request or less and going to a two car garage.
Atkinson replied they would be willing to move the
house more to the north and loosing the third
garage. This would give them 12 additional feet on
the end of the house. Then they could move it back
an additional 12 feet making it 91 feet from the
lake and only needing a 9 foot variance. They
could also move it slightly further to the north.
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Nelson commented the deck is sticking out quite a
bit beyond where the house sticks out. She said
there is a large space to the north and they could
put a sizable deck there which would still face the
lake and be accessible from the current door by
just going straight across . This would also
minimize the variance going out toward the lake.
Atkinson said they did consider this but they
prefer the deck off the family room rather than
wrapping around the house.
Nelson stated a two car garage would take them from
79 feet back to 91 feet and with the deck out
eight less feet, they would only need a one foot
variance. Also, by cutting the bedroom back a foot
it would be 100 feet out from the shore without
significantly changing the house plans .
Dunham commented it' s a tough building site based
• on the topography of the buildable area especially
with the placement of the home which compounds the
issue. He was comfortable with the 90 foot lake
side versus the 79 feet and there would be no
visual obstruction to anybody.
Ford agreed with Dunham and noted moving the house
to the north, eliminating the third garage and have
90 feet away from the lake is fine.
Giglio was comfortable moving the house closer to
the street. He suggested shaving only three feet
off the deck and getting the house 94 feet away
from the lake. He would like to see a six foot
variance instead of a 10 foot variance.
Hansen said he would not be able to support
anything that would put a proposed house closer to
the lake. He supported moving the house back a
couple of feet to an L-shape staying away from the
lake and only asking for one variance in the front.
He noted it ' s more valuable in the rear than the
front.
O'Leary was in favor of having the house moved more
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to the _north and maintaining the 90 foot setback,
decreasing the deck three to four feet, and having
the variance more so toward the Beach Road side.
Hansen said if they granted the request to the
street front yard setback of 105 feet and denied
the first part, he asked if the owners would be
able to fit their home within that envelope.
Atkinson said they would have to work on it but it
would work.
Nelson said she was comfortable with the two feet
closer to the lake and making it 98 feet. It seems
reasonable under the situation of changing the
existing house structure.
MOTLON Dye moved to allow the 100 foot setback
from the lake at 105 foot setback from the street,
the hardship being configuration of the home would
be far, the 105 foot setback from the street. The
motion failed due to a lack of a second.
MOTION: Hansen moved, seconded by Dye, to grant
variance #97-15 to permit construction of the home
with 105 foot front yard setback, the hardship
being the shape of the house, and it needs to be
closer to the front. Motion failed 2-5 with the no
votes by O'Leary, Dunham, Giglio, Ford, and Nelson.
MOTION: Giglio moved, seconded by Nelson, to
permit construction of a single family home 98 feet
from the Ordinary High Water Mark of Bryant Lake,
permit construction of a single family home front
yard setback of 105 feet, the hardship being the
odd shape of the lot created by the lake. Motion
carried 5-2 with the no votes by Dye and Hansen.
B. Request #97-16 by Paul and Gina Steeling for
property located at 6895 Jeremy Court, Eden
F
Prairie:
To permit a side yard setback of 5.5 ' from the side
lot line. City Code requires a minimum side yard
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setback of 101 .
Gina Seeling, 6895 Jeremy Court, reviewed their
variance request for a bathroom renovation for
their existing home. They proposed to bump out the
existing wall to give them more space to allow them
to include a sauna in the master bath which would
be for health purposes . They have spoken with
their neighbors and there were no objections . Paul
Seeling presented photographs depicting the views
to the neighbors .
Dunham asked if the house is a two story house.
Durham said it ' s a slit level with a split entry,
so it ' s a story and a half .
Hansen asked if there was a drainage swale between
the two homes and if it ' s going to be effected at
all . Mr. Seeling said there is drainage but it
will not be effected. It pretty much runs down the
fence line.
Hansen asked if they looked at any other options .
Mr. Seeling explained the other options they looked
at and why they were not feasible. They considered
expanding out the back of the home but the plumbing
facilities are located at the center of the home.
Nelson asked what would be under this area. Mrs .
Seeling said it would be a storage room for
firewood or bicycles. This area will be accessible
from the outside and not from the inside.
Durham reviewed the staff report. Notices were
sent to the neighbors and staff received no letters
or comments .
The public hearing was opened.
The public hearing was closed.
MOTION: Dye moved, seconded by O'Leary, to approve
Variance Request #97-16 and the hardship is this
was the only logical place to extend the bathroom
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and a sauna was needed for health purposes . Motion
carried 7-0.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
Durham noted the City has received a request for the City
Council to review the Board of Adjustment and Appeals
decision of variance request #97-10 for Moore Leasing,
Inc. It will be on the November 4 agenda.
The Board discussed the situation at Highway 169 and
Prairie Center Drive regarding Goodyear Tire.
V. NEW BUSINESS
Durham reviewed the agenda for the next meeting.
VI., ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Dye moved, seconded by Nelson, to adjourn the
meeting. Motion carried 7-0. The meeting adjourned at
9 : 35 p.m.
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