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BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS
THURSDAY,FEBRUARY 8, 1996 7:30 P.M., CITY CENTER
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
8080 Mitchell Road
BOARD OF APPEALS MEMBERS: Arthur Weeks, (Chair); Cliff Dunham,
Delavan Dye,Matthew Hansen, Corrine
Lynch,Kathy Nelson,Mary Vasaly
STAFF PRESENT: Scott Kipp,Planner
Marie Wagner,Recording Secretary
. CALL TO ORDER-ROLL CALL- PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Chairman Weeks called the meeting to order at 7:34 p.m. Lynch arrived at 7:40 p.m. All other
members were present.
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Vasaly moved Old Business be addressed ahead of variances. Dye seconded
the motion and it carried 6-0-0.
II. MINUTES OF JANUARY 11, 1996 MEETING
MOTION: Dye moved that the Board approve the Minutes of the January 11, 1996
meeting. Dunham seconded the motion and it carried 6-0-0.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
Kipp stated Mr. Morgan appealed the Board's decision to deny his request for a variance.
Kipp said Morgan submitted a letter for appeal to the City Council and a date of
March 12, 1996 is scheduled to review the variance.
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III. VARIANCES
A. Request#95-37 by Challenge Printingfobert Lothenbach for 7500 Golden
Triangle Drive to permit construction of a building addition with a portion of
the northeast corner 16.3 feet from a side lot line City Code requires a side
yard setback of 20 feet in the I-2 Zoning District.
Kipp stated this variance was a continuation from the last three months. He said
Challenge Printing submitted a letter dated January 31 for a 60-day continuance
allowing the completion of the requested engineering drawing and calculations in
compliance with requirements by the Board.
Weeks expressed concern over the three month continuance already granted. He
stated the importance of the proponents understanding what is required of them.
Kipp said he would send a letter to Challenge Printing stating what the Board
requires for the next meeting, scheduled for April, 1996.
• Lynch arrived at 7:40 p.m.
The Board gave Lynch an update on Variance#95-37.
MOTION: Dye moved for a 60-day continuance for Variance #95-37. Seconded
by Nelson and the motion carried 7-0-0.
B. Request#96-02 by Independent School District#272 for Eden Prairie High
School at 17185 Valley View Road for Shoreland Ordinance variances for (a)
building height to 50 feet Code permits 25 foot maximum and. (bl
impervious surface of 43.7 percent Code allows 25 percent maximum. Also,
a variance for zero lot line setback for parking, Code requires a 10 foot
setback
Weeks explained the order of the Variance presentation process to those in
attendance.
Mr. Steven Thompson from Cuningham Hamilton Quiter Architects spoke on
behalf of Independent School District#272. Thompson apologized for missing the
last meeting and stated his absence was due to his unfamiliarity with the process.
Thompson indicated he has met with the City Council and Parks and Recreation.
• Weeks mentioned his recollection of a similar request several years ago and asked
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Thompson for an explanation of the last request and its relation to the current
request.
Thompson stated the current addition to the high school is smaller with some
addition to the parking lot. He said some similarities include the addition of three
stories, which is primarily classroom space and extensive remodeling. Thompson
said the ordinance for 25 feet precedes the original building. Thompson stated an
effort is being made to create a situation that would not overrun the site; a
compact plan. Thompson displayed the Plan to the Board.
The schools access currently takes place at the intersection of Valley View Road
and Hames Way. The proposed expansion plan includes construction of a new
four lane divided access off of Eden Prairie Road at Edenwood Drive.
Thompson stated the current addition would be lower than the prior addition. He
indicated there would be an incorporation of mechanical spaces into the lower
level of the building. Thompson said the main site change is the addition of an
intersection with County Road 4 allowing a separation of on-site traffic from other
traffic. He said bus traffic would enter from County Road 4 from the east,
allowing student traffic to remain off of Valley View Road. Thompson also said
• the main entry would be the student entry.
Thompson said parking for visitors and staff, as well as, students is insufficient.
He said the high school staff will attempt to draw students to off-site study
programs hoping to reduce the parking problem.
Dunham expressed concern regarding multiple public accesses into the building,
especially pertaining to public security. Thompson stated it is an open campus and
this issue is a school district administrative problem. He also said the District is
working with staff and administration on this issue;trying to change it
dramatically. Thompson said he has worked with the City Staff and the
Community Liaison with the District regarding ways to control movement at off
times.
Thompson indicated the objective of the plan is to provide enough parking to
accommodate the increase of population in the building. He also said the initial
plan was different but found to not accommodate the school's needs. He said the
current plan was scaled back from the original plan.
Thompson said the school site is picking up some drainage from the community
center site. He also said he believes the two sites cannot be viewed separately.
Thompson mentioned there would be improved storm water drainage collection
along County Road 4 and suggested providing for a 100 year storm event by
having a single pond area. He said new storm requirements require more pond
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area which could be accomplished by setting up a series of chamber ponds.
Nelson asked if the area where the staff parking lot would be is included in the site
plan. Thompson said the intention is to create an off hours parking lot for the
community center. He said much of the plan relates to the high school as well as
the community center.
Thompson said there has been much consideration concerning special events such
as football. He said currently problems could arise if an athlete is seriously injured
and emergency vehicles were inhibited from getting into the site. Thompson also
said, with off hours parking there could be,at the staffs discretion, an alternative
route for emergency vehicles.
Lynch asked if any thought had been given to leasing paved parking space from the
church located to the west of the high school. Thompson said he has looked at all
options and believes this would not be a cost effective approach. Thompson said
he is not interested in creating confrontational issues with neighbors, as well as,
this approach would mean having to tunnel under the entry drive, expanding the
project significantly.
Lynch noted the pond was a marshy area and asked what kind of depth Thompson
was anticipating. Thompson responded there would be various depths. He said
they would have to create significant depth in portions of the pond. He also said
the pond would be incorporated with a number of teaching events at the school.
Thompson spoke of developing teaching stations around the pond and creating
two stories of biology labs around the pond area. Lynch asked if there would be a
bridge across the pond. Thompson said there would be more of a dike area.
Thompson indicated there was a possibility of having an active run of water from
the upper elevation of the pond to the lower, similar to a waterfall, but not a
waterfall. Thompson said this would be in alignment with requirements by the City
and Watershed District,however,they could not go to Watershed District until the
process is complete.
Dunham asked what the intended depth was. Thompson said they are trying to
reduce the amount of sediment. He suggested allowing some sediment to build up,
allow storm water into the pond and have a pump that would extract some of the
sediment. Vasaly asked if DNR approval was required. Thompson replied no due
to the fact that the pond was made with the building. Vasaly questioned whether
there was a DNR regulation regarding a lower percentage of impervious surface
due to the lake. Kipp stated the DNR allows review of the variance based on their
ordinances. Kipp also said the Board's decision would be forwarded to the DNR.
Hansen asked what occurs when the pond becomes full of sediment. Thompson
said the flow of sediment could be headed off by sump manholes. He also said
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• most of the sediment would accumulate during the first year due to construction
on the site. Hansen asked if the City has a plan for cleaning out this type of
system. Kipp said the City has equipment which effectively accomplishs this,but
did not know if the City handles the School District's catch basins. Hansen asked
if there would be curbs and gutters. Thompson responded yes.
Hansen expressed concern for the water quality of Round Lake with the fertilized
run off from the school property. He stated if the city regularly pumps out the
cash basins it would probably help the situation.
Lynette Pollari of Cuningham Hamilton Quiter said one thing they have done is
exercise caution about not creating large areas. They have planned smaller areas
set apart by turf, which cuts down pollution. They have also met with the
landscape architect and are working with site irrigation. He said they are working
to make the pond into an ecological outdoor classroom.
Weeks asked where the property line was between the community center and the
high school. Thompson displayed a picture to the Board. He said the variable lot
line has been the north lot line. He also said it was about a 75 foot shift to
incorporate the new addition. Thompson said there would be another request to
shift the lot line again in the future. Thompson said he believes this is not an
important lot line.
Weeks mentioned there were four items up for vote during the last school
referendum. Thompson said the activity center failed. Weeks asked if there was
any incorporation of the activity center in the new plan. Thompson showed the
Board where the activity center could be added to the building.
Hansen asked if the site was too full. Thompson said it is full now but he believes
the City will look back in future years and be thankful for not building an
additional high school. Thompson said he believes the current plan will work well
for the City and the Community Center.
Kipp mentioned the height requested is consistent with the standard set by the
Board in 1993. He said the impervious surface is required for expansion to take
place. Kipp stated,if parking was expanded,the community center would benefit
tremendously. He mentioned there are benefits to having a secondary parking lot.
Kipp informed the Board that their approval of the variance would be subject to
City Council approval.
Weeks asked Kipp what the terms were for the variance granted in 1993. Kipp
said he believed the last variance granted was based on City Council approval for
50 foot height variance.
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Hansen said a parking ramp would cut down the impervious surface. Thompson
responded saying this had come up at another meeting and informed the Board this
was a costly approach, as well as increasing the issues regarding security.
Weeks opened the public hearing.
Weeks closed the public hearing.
Hansen said he believes there isn't much choice in the matter since there is only
one high school. Nelson commented she was impressed with the efforts made
regarding ecology. She stated the variance was a logical request.
MOTION: Nelson moved to approve Variance Request# 96-02 for a building
height to 50 feet, impervious surface of 43.7%, and a variance for a zero lot line
setback for parking; with the hardship being to provide a workable school
environment which will enhance the City's services, and meet the future
educational demands of the City's residents. Nelson said there were no
attachments since the variance has been approved by the City Council. Dye
seconded the motion.
Hansen amended the motion stating that the school district secure a plan for
. cleaning out the sump manholes on a regular basis. Dunham said the city is
obligated to clean out the sump manholes,therefore it was not necessary to make
this stipulation. Hansen responded he would like the stipulation added because
Kipp is not sure the City does this. Thompson said the school must rely on
keeping the water pure in the pond since it will be an active part of the curriculum.
Thompson believes the school district would have no problems with this
stipulation. Dunham withdrew his objection.
The amended motion was accepted by Nelson and Dye, and the motion carried
7-0-0.
Weeks informed Thompson of a time limit of one year to implement the variance.
C. Request#96 04 by Kindercare Learning Centers for Kindercare near the
intersection of Baker Road and Old Shady Oak Road to permit a lot size of
1.65 acres in the Neighborhood Commercial Zoning District City Code
requires a 2 acre minimum.
Eric Johnson of RLK Associates in Minnetonka represented Kindercare.
Johnson stated property was originally developed in 1988 and 1989 as Chase Point
with a proposed daycare center, a gas station,restaurant and two office buildings.
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The roadway that services this site is Chase Point Road. Johnson said the site is
interesting regarding the amount of the grade change. Johnson said the proposal
was to have a Kindercare site behind the Super America. Due to steep grades on
the western portion of the site, a narrow piece is usable property. Johnson went
on to say what limits the western side is the existence of a private access easement
to the Loosen property. The site was rough graded in 1989 and two or three lots
were anticipated. Kindercare is requesting a variance for a 1.6 acre lot as opposed
to two acres, based on existing tree line to the west and the steep grades through
portions of the site.
Lynch asked Johnson why Kindercare could not have a two acre minimum lot.
Johnson stated there would have to be some different agreements made by
Kindercare and future owners of the other property. Lynch asked Johnson if the
property would not be useable to anyone due to the steep grade and the trees.
Johnson responded yes; certain portions are unobtainable for Kindercare because
of the grade. Lynch suggested Kindercare could obtain the property,though
unusable, allowing for a bigger site.
Vasaly said it would be possible to draw a straight line and the request for a
variance would be unnecessary. Johnson stated that Kindercare was going with
• the design of less than two acre sites as was done previously. Kipp said the lot line
is sharing the private drive. He said if Kindercare extended across, it would have
to have a cross access agreement for the road.
Lynch asked what the hardship was. Vasaly asked if it was a decision to buy less
land. Lynch suggested combining the lot with a closer piece of property,
eliminating the need for a variance. Nelson agreed stating it would insure that
someone would take care of the smaller piece of property. Johnson said originally
there was a plan in 1989 for a potential third user.
Kipp said the previous daycare and Super America were approved at the time of
the original development. He also said the platting of this lot at 1.65 acres would
leave the 1.35 acre site available, leaving 1.4 acres of wooded area. Kipp said
permitting the variance would allow the remaining parcel to have available space to
complete the project. Kipp said Kindercare is meeting all setback requirements
and this is the only variance request with the project.
Kipp stated at the time of the original approval, the steep sloped area would
require major alteration because of the grade. He said it also puts into question the
possibility of a fifth building.
Weeks asked if the line were run all the way across,would it put them over the
• two acres. Kipp responded yes and said when the original two sites were built, a
conceptual view of the five sites was given.
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Dunham expressed concern for the health of the children regarding fluorocarbons
in the air coming from the gas station. Kipp said it would be difficult to deny a
request based on this premise and stated that many day care centers are built next
to gas stations. Dunham stated it might be true that many day care centers are
built near gas stations but perhaps alternatives should be considered. Dunham said
this issue hinders his decision to approve the variance.
Nelson asked why the lots were platted smaller than what the city requires. Kipp
stated the Council believed it was an appropriate use of the property. Kipp also
said the Council reviews a plan in terms of being consistent with the original plan.
Kipp said the Kindercare site is larger and,if the site was extended,it could put in
doubt the ability of building the fifth lot.
Weeks asked what the tax base difference would be for 1.65 acres as opposed to 2
acres. Kipp stated probably not much of a difference.
MOTION: Vasaly moved to deny Variance Request#96-04 due to no hardship.
Lynch seconded and the motion passed 7-0-0.
Johnson asked the Board, if there were an appeal, should it be presented as a two
plus acre lot. Weeks told Johnson he would not be obligated to go any more than
2.0 acres. Weeks said if Johnson could come up with a plat with 2.0 acres, he
could present it. Kipp added that a modification to two acres would be consistent
with what the Council originally approved, and would not require starting the
public hearing process over.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
None.
V. NEW BUSINESS
Kipp said the next meeting was scheduled for March 14, 1996. He stated Data
Metalcraft is a concrete block building with a dirt parking lot which does not meet
code. Data Metalcraft plans an addition of 1/3 more square feet added onto the
building. Kipp said nine percent of the building would have plain concrete block
and everything else would meet code. He also said another item would be the
Roger's Homestead development for a sixteen lot subdivision with Shoreland lot
size and lot frontage variances.
Kipp also said the April meeting will address the Lakeview Office Building which
was built with burnished block. They are requesting to be consistent with that.
Cub Foods is tentatively also scheduled for April but Kipp said he hasn't heard
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from them.
Kipp suggested the Board check their calendars to ensure a quorum can be
maintained for the March meeting.
Dunham requested the Board offer appreciation to Weeks for his dedication to the
Board, since his term is expiring.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Vasaly moved the Board adjourn. Seconded by Dunham and the
motion carried 7-0-0. Meeting adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
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