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• JAPPROVED MINUTES
BOARD OF APPEALS AND ADJUS7KERTS
THURSDAY, November 14, 1991 7:30 P.M. City Hall Council
Chambers, 7600 Executive Drive,
Eden Prairie, MN 55344
BOARD OF APPEALS S• Harvey (chairman)., Freemyer,
Wilkus, Akemann, Anderson,
Weeks, Arockiasamy
STAFF PRESENT: ,.jean Johnson, Planning
Sharon Storholm, Recording Secr'y
BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT: Akemann
I. CALL TO ORDER--^OLL CALL--PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Chairman Harvey called the meeting to order at 7: 30 P.M. Roll
call was taken as noted above. All present recited the Pledge
• of Allegiance.
II. MINUTES OF OCTOBER 10, 1991 MEETING
Freemyer noted that on page 5 , under New Business, his concern
had been on the new Chevrolet sign.
MOTION: Anderson moved that the Board approve the minutes
_of the October meeting as amended. Arockiasamy
"seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
III.VARIANCES
Chairman Harvey explained the process that is used in presentation
of the variance requests .
A. Rfe uest #91-030, submitted by Gregg J. and Clare Roden for property located at
9301 Talus Circle. Eden Prairie. Minnesota. The request is for a variance from City
Code Chapter 11 Section 11 03 Subdivision 2 B. to hermit a minimum side yard
setback of 3.83' on one side and 9.60' on the other side. ity Code, mgr uires a
minimum side yard setback of 10' on one side with a toil of 25' on both sib,.
Gregory Roden came forward to present the variance request. He
explained that he had purchased the home in May and now the survey
has shown a discrepancy. He had spoken with the builder who had
• responded that surveying is not an exact science. The home is
not place correctly on the lot. Roden said that he did not create
the problem and the cost to remedy the situation would be prohibitive.
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Johnson said that the lot isin thelarge preserve Planned Unit
Development. There should be no less than 15 'variance for both
sides . City Code requires no less than 101 . There is no easement problem
at this time--the city may vacate it. She has received some calls,
but they were just inquiries .
Freemyer said that houses are staked by land surveyors . They
use offset stakes--they should still be in the ground. These
should enable the builder to be close to the intended location.
The builder may have been distorting the process.
Arockiasamy, Weeks, Wilkus, Harvey had no questions.
Steve Regal of 9299 Talus ,Circle came forward and said that his
home was in the area first. When this home was being constructed,
h-e --felt-..it was too close. His home is lower than the Roden home
and he -had been concerned about the drainage- probiem.. He -had
registered a complaint when the home was under construction. He -1-
had gotten a plat and it had indicated 5 ' --he had asked that this
be verified. The verification did not take place. He believes that
the value of his home has suffered because of this construction
and would like retribution on taxes and intends to file for that.
He is also concerned on the water drainage problem. The city was
negligent in this matter. Bothfront and rear of the home are closer
• than they should be. He said he did not feel good about this matter
at all. There is a vast discrepancy in the assessed value of the
homes .
Harvey asked if Regal knew the process for protesting the taxes
on his home. He suggested that Regal call Johnson if not. Harvey
said that there is not a good solution to the problem.
Johnson noted that the variance was published to permit a minimum
side yard set back. The proponent would not have to return for the
living quarters problem.
Anderson moved that the Board approve Variance Request
91-030 as submitted with reference to the survey
-- dated May 17, 1991. The unique circumstance is that
the proponent did not create the variance. Wilkus
seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
Arockiasamy asked if Roden can expand or build on to his home along
this side.
Johnson answered no.
B• Request #91-027. submitted by Scott Moss for grol&rty located at 9464 Creekwood
Drive, Eden Prairie, Minnesota The request is for a variance from City Code,
Chapter 11, Section 11,50,Subdivision 6 C.to perffiit an existing deck and imposed
• addition 68' to the Ordinate High Water Mark of Purgatory Creek, City Code
requires a 100' setback from the Ordinary High Water Mark.
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• Scott Moss appeared to present the variance request. He said he
had been a resident of Eden Prairie for 4 years . He would like
to. remove the deck and add an addition to the home. The house
is small and since he purchased it he has gotten married and
had a child. There is a possibility that a grandparent may move
into the home in the future. He needs more room. The addition
would be no closer than the present deck to the neighbors property.
It would be slightly larger than the deck, however. This addition
would be like a four season porch--100% glass and metal.
Johnson said she had received a letter from Tony & Louise Pesola
who are opposed to the request. This home was constructed prior
to the Shoreland Code. She has had some calls . The Pesolas had
called _that afternoon expressing their concerns that they are
gbserving construction_ at a greater _distance _than_presently_
allowed. They were not- advised by._Moss , of this-construction: _
Johnson_ asked Moss if the holes were similar to the ones outlined
in the proposal.
Moss answered that they were and that this digging was taking place
now before the frost makes the ground too hard. Pesola can view
this proposed addition from only one window--a bedroom.
Harvey asked if the retaining wall is 68 ' from the high water mark.
• Johnson said it was close to that figure.
Weeks asked Moss about the letter from the Pesolas .
Moss answered that his wife had intended to speak with them and
she is not in town at this time. He was suprised at the letter.
Weeks had questions about a stud wall in the drawing submitted.
Moss said that it had to do with the contour of the ceiling. He
is using treated wood where required. The contractor submits
specifications .
Arockiasamy asked if -there was a similar situation last month.
Johnson said that there was--in fact, it was next door.
Mr Wallace of 12465 Sunny Brook Road spoke up from the audience
and said that the Minnesota Legislature had revised the standards
towards shoreland management. They are moving towards 300 feet
now, not less than the present requirements .
Arockiasamy asked if a solarium is considered part of the house.
• Johnson answered that it was.
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MOTION: Weeks moved that the Board approve Variance Request
91-027 as submitted finding that the variance is not
further extending any structure (deck and solarium
addition) closer to Purgatory Creek than the existing
structure. The hardship is that the home does not
comply because it was built prior to the enactment of
the ordinance. Freemyer seconded the motion and it
passed unanimously.
C. Request#91-028,submitted by Associated Investments Inc./Golf Pointe for property
located south of Valley View Road east of the abandoned Northwestern Railway,
Fen Prairie, Minnesota. The request is for a variance from City Code Chapter
11, Section 11.03.-Subdivision 2 B (1) To permit lot frontage for proposed Lot 5 of
33'. City Code requires 85' (2) To permit a 0' driveway setback for porposed Lots
1. 23, and 4.-_City Code requires a 3' side yard setback:
Tom Robertson of Associated Investments came forward to present
the request: He noted that this project was approved in 1988 for
15 townhomes . Because of the Graffiti Bridge indecision, construction
was delayed. Now he had come back with the present proposal for
five single family lots . This could be done according to City Code,
but that would not work out as well as the plan being presented
this evening. The Planning Commission has passed the plan because
it serves the site better. Another objective in this layout is to
• minimize the access to Valley View Road.
Johnson said that Valley View Road is a major East-West collector
street. Staff felt that shared driveways were advisable. They
believe an adequate T-turn around or pad is necessary to eliminate
the need to back up on to the road.
Robertson said that this has been incorporated into the plan.
Anderson and. Wilkus had no questions .
Weeks was concerned that in instances where driveways are shared,
who is responsible for snow removal? He asked about the distance
from the property line to the curb line.
Johnson said that this would be a private contract situation. The
distances that Weeks asked for were 26 ' on the west, 22 ' in the
middle, and 20 ' on the other end.
Harvey asked Robertson how the lots would be marketed regarding
the shared driveway issue.
Freemyer felt a covenant may be needed regarding such problems .
Robertson said he did not believe it would be a problem, but.
• he could work with Staff to meet the satisfaction of the Ba ard.
Wilkus asked if the property owners could get a driveway on Valley
View Road.
Johnson said they would need to apply, but the fact that tftey
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already have a driveway would be considered.
Freemyer said he was impressed with the layout of the plan.
Arockiasamy said it may be that future owners would not be
aware of the conditions regarding maintenance of the driveways.
Robertson said that he will work with Staff in any way the Board
wishes to make this clear to the buyers . This plan is the best
u-se of the property.
-_�_MOTLON: _,Arocki_asamy moved._t_hat, the Board__approve Variance
Request 91 028 as submitted finding the variance
,_,requested serves the following purposes:
— —A'.--Promotes public ..__safety by limiting the number
of driveways accessing Valley View Road.
B. Provides the most efficient utilization of the
property for single family development without
compromising the R1-13.5 Zoning District mimimun
requirements .
A condition shall be added that no other driveways
• are allowed in the future and that Robertson will
work with Staff to communicate to the buyers that
there will be joint maintenance of the driveways
and that no other driveways will be allowed. Wilkus
seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
D. Request #91-029 submitted by American National Bank as Personal Representative
of the Estate of Clara Heath for property located at 7665 Smetana Lane Eden
Prairie Minnesota. The request is for a variance from City Code. Chapter_
Section 11.03. Subdivision 2 B (1) To ner_nuA a rural lot size of 1.95 acres. City
Code requires a 10 acre minunum lot size (2) To permit existing house 90' from the
Ordinary High Water Mark of Nine Mile Creek. City Code requires a 100' setback.
(3) To permit a minirnum lot size of 1.95 acres adjacent to General Development
Waters. City Code Shoreiand Code requires 5 acres.
Harry Niemyer, an attorney from St Paul, appeared to present the
variance request. He was representing the American National Bank.
He said that they had been trying to sell the Clara Heath property
for about 8 months . There is a problem particular to this property.
The home is 90 ' from the flood plain. A minimum of 100 ' is required.
He would like a variance to permit the home to be rebuilt in the
event it should be 50% or more destroyed. This variance would
permit it to be rebuilt at the present setback ( 90 ' ) . In this
instance, the grandfather provision may apply. This property was
existant before your regulations existed. There was a suggestion
• made that the out buildings be torn down as a condition. These
are sizable buildings and the cost would be a lot. The person
who suggested this condition was a low bidder on the property.
_ He said that he understood that if those buildings were removed,
they could not be rebuilt.
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Johnson noted that the barn and the other building are in the
flood plain. If these buildings were destroyed, they could not
be rebuilt. The house is 6 ' above the flood stage of the creek.
The Watershed District Engineer has no problem with the variance.
Two or three neighbors were concerned with the outbuildings.
Johnson had told them that these buldings were not covered in
tonight' s action. She presented photos of the out buildings to
the Board.
Niemyer said that the buildings were 20 by 40 and 24 by 24.
No one resides in the home presently.
Freemyer asked if there would be a parcel split._
Niemyer answered no. He just wants acceptable confirmation that
this is an acceptable lot.
Johnson responded to a question from Freemyer regarding the
buildings by stating that these buildings are legal non-conforming
structures . They could be better maintained.
Freemyer said conditions could be attached to the variance.
Niemyer said he did not know what the cost would be. Removal
• of the buildings is a separate issue from the variance request
this evening.
Niemyer said they would like the variance granted without delay
in order for financial instutions to consider the granting of a
loan on the property. He realizes that they have a responsibility
to maintain the structures . His concern is that they are being
. tied together with the request...._
Arockiasamy_ asked if a variance were to be granted on the house,
it would be legally conforming and the buildings would be legally
non=conforming.- (Buildings could not be rebuilt, but the home could)
-Can--the Board -go--to the extent_ of requiring removal of legally
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.non-conforming buildings? He --felt it- would be extreme to ask
them to._remove_ the structures.
Johnson said that if the Building Inspector felt they were
hazardous, he could require that they be removed.
Freemyer asked if it would be appropriate to make such an
inspection by the Building Inspector a condition?
Niemyer asked if they would have an opportunity to correct any
defects . The lending instutution involved was not their bank.
• Harvey said that as a condition of the variance, they would
be required to have an inspection of the buildings .
• Weeks asked if the home were to be destroyed, could it
be rebuilt at the same location, footprint, elevation, and
high water mark?
Johnson answered yes, but the elevation could possibly be lower.
Niemyer said this variance would enable financing on the property
through a lending institution and even a private cash buyer
would be enabled to rebuild if necessary. There is a well on
the property, but no septic tank--it has city sewer.
Freemyer asked if the Board should consider inspection of the
well as a requirement before any new structure could be built.
Johnson said that this would be required anyway.
Johnson said that -the 56% amount of destruction would be judged
by staff and insurance company.
MOTION: Weeks moved that the Board approve Variance Request
91-029 as submitted finding that the applicant has
not created the variance. The variance is valid
only for the residential structure. The approval
of the variance shall include the findings in the
Staff report. Prior to granting the variance,
• the City Building Inspector shall inspect the out
buildings for safety and they shall be brought up
to the minimal requirements of the City. Freemyer
seconded the motion.
Wilkus suggested the addition of a condition that
if the home is destroyed more than 50%, reconstruction
must comply with the conditions set forth tonight.
Johnson said that if the same house would be rebuilt, it would
need to be on the same footprint.
Notation was made of a letter that had been recieved from William
Cherne -that addressed the variance request. He had suggested that
the buildings be -removed as a condition.
E. Request #91-031, submitted by Edison Sign Company for property located' at
Preserve Village Mall at the southwest corner of County Road #18 and Anderson
Lakes Parkway, Eden Prairie, Minnesota The request is for a variance from City
Code, Chanter 11, Section 11 70Subdivision 4,B (1) to permit transfer of the wall
si ns permitted for each tenant space located on the west and south elevation to the
east elevation facing County Road #18• (2) To permit the total square feet of wall
sIgIIS on the east elevation of 1055.25 square feet City Code permits 490 square feet
for the east elevation.
• Mr Turner appeared to present the variance request. He said they
would like to transfer wall space. This center has difficulty
keeping interior tenants happy because of lack of exposure.
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Johnson said the design of the center is similar to Prairie
Village Mall. In the newer style centers , all tenants have
exterior walls. It does not benefit in this instance to put
additional signage on the north or south sides . The west is
residential. The east wall is for tenant space.
* Arockiasamy left the meeting at 9 PM.
Turner said that the tenants have requested the signs. The sign
cabinets will be smaller than those on Prairie Village Mall.
( 20 sq ft as_ opposed to 27 sq. ft..)
Weeks- _asked what colors have been selected. 'for the signs .
Turner -answered--_that the colors -would be_ all :red backgrounds
with-white lettering. There would be a minimal amount of logos
and the cabinets will be bronze colored. The pylon will be used
for special sales and a reader board.At the stop light (going
south on 18 ) people will be able to see that there are many
internal tenants . The height of the lettering will vary according
to the length of the name from 8 to 11" .
Anderson said if this were to be granted, up to 1419 sq. ft would
• be allowed. IU the mall were to be built today, it would be
allowed .
Harvey asked if this were a strip mall and all the tenants had
access to the outside, how much signage would be allowed?
Johnson said that would be hard to determine at this point. One
must also consider that signage is expensive.
Freemyer asked if Jerrys New Market signage existing now will
remain.
Turner_ _s.aid that all Mall signage not shown on the drawing will
remain the _same. .Only the portion of the mall shown on the
drawings will have changes . _
Wilkus asked-about .the north elevation.
Turner said it will stay the same--no additional signage.
Johnson said there will be no signage on south or west walls .
Freemyer felt the Eden Prairie Liquor sign should come off the
mall entrance and go into a box. Now, it would be adding to the
signage for Eden Prairie Liquor.
• Turner said there were two reasons for Eden Prairie Liquors major
sign: 1 . It was requested As a mRjor tenant, they could have their
own sign.
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Wilkus suggested the elimination of two boxes and let Eden Prairie
Liquor have the large sign.
Turner said if Eden Prairie Liquor should move from the mall,
the large sign would be removed. Then that areas would be divided
into 2-3 signs .
Harvey said that all permitted signage could be 1419 on all four
sides . This is a sizable variance request. The purpose of the signage
is to tell people there are other tenants in this mall. The pylon
sign communicated that message. People who drive by on 18 cannot
read those signs .
Turner said the situation at Prairie Village Mall is made worse by
the-trees.:-in the area-Also, 2..there _.are lots--of _logos- and type styles.
He wants readable type and minimal logos in .this instance--there
is _no _tree._.obstruction. Still, ..it will be somewhat difficult to
read from 18 , but one can see that there are more tenants.
Harvey asked how the tenants were getting business now
Mr Gibson said that they do newspaper advertising and some radio
and T.V. advertising. It is hard to keep the mall full and will
be worse when Cub opens up.
Turner said that tenants have come to him and asked for more
exposure. They are hurting now.
Harvey felt that most customers come in for the anchor tenants
and after they get there find there are specialty shops there too.
Gibson said that is not true anymore. The situation will be much
worse when Cub opens .
Turner said the directory sign was not practical.
Harvey said . illuminated boxes on a wall do not add to the
attractivness of the mall. He did not think this is the answer
to the problem--there are other alternatives .
Weeks said he agreed with Harvey. He did not have a problem with
the square footage, just the use of it. He suggested eliminating
some on the north to make the box signs more readable. He asked
why the color red was chosen for the mall shops sign.
Turner said it would be located in the middle area between the
anchors because there is no other logical location. I_t would tie
in with the other signs there now.
Weeks asked what exactly was meant by the statement that the tenants
were suffering.
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Gibson answered that they were threatening to move.
Harvey felt that a potential customer would look in the newspaper
or yellow pages if looking for a certain line of specialty shop.
The customer would not just pull into the mall and look for one.
This would be going from 495 to 1055 sq. ft on that wall. That
is more than a 100% variance.
Turner said he doubted that there would be any more malls built
in this fashion in the future. The increase would be 54% on the
east elevation. Prairie Village Mall had a 75% increase. It is
the tenants- who want to- spend money for the signs, not the owner.
If the- signs were smaller, it would not help the tenants in
any- way.There were- ,other phases: 1. Blue letters that said
"Mall:,Shops" - 2. A -7 by_14 directory. TNeither of -these option
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orked) : _ _ _.
Gibson said that business is tough--signs and visability are needed.
Weeks said he did not feel he had enough information to make a
decision this evening. He did feel the amount of signage should
be reduced. Why was red and white combination chosen?
Turner said those colors are very effective in advertising.
Harvey suggested that the major tenants give up some signage as
A trade off.
Gibson said he did not believe they would want to do that.
Anderson felt a motion should be placed upon the board.
Freemyer said that there is a difference in Mall 4 & 5 and this
instance. This is more cluttered--he did not care about ratios
or anything else.
Turner said he disagreed that this is more cluttered than Mall
4 & 5 . He had analyzed what they had done wrong there. They butted
the signs next to each other in a "snake" . He is proposing breaks
between the signs .
Freemyer asked Gibson about the semi on the property near the
hardware store. (another sign) .
Gibson said it was storage for snow blowers . It may be empty now.
,The board took a preliminary vote to see what the consensus was .
Wilkus , Freemyer, Harvey, Weeks and Anderson all felt-more infor-
mation was needed. Anderson suggested alternatives and compromises .
Turner and Gibson both agreed that the item should be continued.
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• MOTION: Anderson moved that the VAriance Request 91-031
be continued to the next meeting. Wilkus seconded
. the motion and it passed unanimously.
III. OLD BUSINESS
A. Beach Road House
Johnson noted that more progress is being made. Some sod
was laid and it appears to be closed in now.
B. GOODWILL SITE
This7variancehas been approved on a time -basis . Johnson
= said it appears - to be going well.
C: EXPIRATION OF TOUCH OF CLASS
Johnson had contacted Knutdson and he said they will be
- submitting a letter to the Council requesting an extension. - -
D. FUNKO LAND
It was noted that the banner at Funko Land had been removed.
• IV. NEW BUSINESS
A.STUDENT PARTICIPATION
Johnson explained that in the past the Park and Rec Dept
had incorporated students into the board. They have no
voting power, but can participate in the discussion. The
idea originated with one of the commissions .
Anderson $aid she felt this should be encouraged to give them
practice. '
Freemyer said he felt there should be two students on a board.
B. NEXT MONTH AGENDA
Johnson noted that only one item will be on next months agenda.
It wasFsuggested that Johnson check on the semi at hardware store.
C. DURHAM
Harvey noted that November 15 will be Durham' s last day as an
employee of the City of Eden Prairie. He noted that he had
done a fine job and the Board would like to thank him for this
involvement and assistance and wish him well.
• V. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Anderson moved that the Board adjourn. Weeks
seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10 : 30 P.M.