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CONSERVATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2006 7:00 PM, CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL ROAD
PRAIRIE ROOM
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Eapen Chacko (Chair), Jan Mosman (Vice Chair), Ray
Daniels, Rita Krocak, Geneva McMillan, David
Seymour
STUDENT COMMISSIONERS: Jennifer Brown, Lauren Mosman, Casey Russell
COMMISSION STAFF: Leslie A. Stovring, Staff Liaison
Allison Burr, Recording Secretary
I. ROLL CALL
Chair Chacko called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. Daniels arrived at 7:14 p.m. Brown
was absent.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was approved.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. AUGUST 8, 2006
MOTION: MacMillan moved, seconded by Chacko, to approve the minutes of the
August 8, 2006 meeting as published. The motion carried 4-0-1, with Mosman
abstaining due to absence at the last meeting.
IV. SPEAKER
A. WIND ENERGY: PERSPECTIVES FROM A LEADING PROVIDER
(XCEL) STEVE WILSON
Chacko recalled that the Commission discussed wind energy at its last meeting. He
subsequently contacted Xcel Energy about a guest speaker for the Commission.
Chacko provided background about the Minnesota Wind Source program and
introduced Steve Wilson, a representative of Xcel Energy.
Wilson provided his professional background with Xcel and thanked the
Commission for inviting him to speak. He explained it is his job to develop and
arrange power purchase agreements, not exclusively renewables, but mostly
renewables at this time.
Daniels arrived at 7:14 p.m.
Wilson began by explaining our lives depend on electricity, and the transportation of
it has become very difficult. Transmission does get congested, particularly in the
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summer-time. What is particular to wind generation is the lowest periods of wind
generation are during summer months, which coincides with peak demands.
Wilson explained to handle transmission problems, an organization was formed
called MISO, the Midwest Independent Transmission System. This were was
created by a number of utilities getting together in the Upper Midwest because they
believe it is easier to handle one transmission system rather than handling a bunch of
smaller transmission systems. He provided a history of MISO and noted it currently
handles all of Xcel's generating plants. It examines shortages and will increase
generation or tell others to back generation down in order to handle congestion and
avoid blackouts. Wilson presented an overhead with the MISO footprint in the
Upper Midwest, noting there is involvement in 15 states.
Wilson explained Xcel forecasts how much energy consumers will use, identifies
resources to fill gaps, and runs simulations to find the lowest-cost plans. He
displayed a graph showing the megawatt needs for Xcel consumers. Wilson stated
Xcel expects consumer demand to grow by 1.7 percent per year, with output
increasing 1.6 percent per year.
Xcel is under legislative mandate to install 1,125 Megawatts (MW) of wind energy
by 2010, and there is a Minnesota Renewable Energy Objective that requires an
additional 560 MW. He explained the biggest impact regarding renewables is the
federal production tax credit (PTC), which is where the federal government buys
down approximately half the cost of renewable energy. The other thing impacting
renewables is availability of transmission. The sunset date for the PTC is December
31, 2007, and so there is a scramble to purchase wind turbines prior to that time.
Wilson explained the issue with wind generation is it only produces energy when the
wind blows, and the wind only blows enough 30 or 40 percent of the time. During
the other time periods, other sources are needed. Within the past three years, wind
generation has tripled, and as of August 2006, the U.S. had installed capacity of
10,000 MW.
Wilson stated a lot of Xcel's service territory is located in very good wind regimes.
He explained wind is a solar effect; wind mostly happens from the heating and
cooling of the earth surfaces. Compared to other utilities, a lot of Xcel's territory has
good wind regimes.
Wilson displayed a map of Minnesota showing the wind resources in the state and
explained that Buffalo Ridge in the southwest corner of Minnesota is one of the best
sources,but there are problems associated with transmission from this area.
Wilson described Wind Source as a voluntary program and noted Minnesota has 14
MW and is requested to have up to 22 MW by the end of the year. He explained
Wind Source is now the largest voluntary renewable program in the United States
and estimated there are 10,000 customers who participate.
Russell asked if the number is low due to lack of advertising or lack of interest.
Wilson responded as people become more energy conscious, the interest in Wind
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Source increases; that has been especially true during the last year and all the
discussion regarding natural gas prices increasing and dependence on foreign oil.
Daniels stated that he believes there will come a point in time when wind energy will
be cheaper than other forms of energy.
Wilson provided an overview of some of the early challenges with the turbines,
including the impact on birds and bats as well as television and radio interference.
Wilson explained the blades on the turbine only turn at a certain speed. The newer
ones are created so that if the wind speeds get very high, a brake system
automatically kicks to prevent the generators from burning up. It used to take an 8
mph wind to initiate spinning„ but the newer ones start up with a 2 to 3 mph wind.
He pointed out the black-colored blades are coated with Teflon to avoid ice
accumulation. The newer ones are white but also have a coating on them. Wilson
explained the blades do not turn any faster when the wind picks up. The turbines are
designed to generate electricity at a range of wind speeds, for example 15 to 35 miles
per hour(mph). The turbines adapt themselves to prevailing wind speeds to generate
energy efficiently.
Seymour asked about wind turbines on top of skyscrapers. Wilson explained there
are logistical issues. If the blades and towers get too big, it starts to impede
construction. In addition, the cranes needed to lift the turbines are larger, and there
are only so many big cranes. There are also issues with air traffic impacts.
Wilson explained Xcel is also involved in biomass, which includes burning wood
waste and other things that are grown or created. He highlighted the various biomass
plants around the state of Minnesota.
Wilson highlighted the positive economic and environmental attributes of
renewables, including carbon management. He outlined the obstacles to renewables,
including the PTC, economies of scale, transmission constraints, cost of ancillary
services, and system saturation. Wilson highlighted other Xcel renewable efforts.
He stated renewables cannot replace conventional technology now, but it is part of
the answer.
Daniels noted Xcel has partnered with the National Renewable Lab on a hydrogen
project. Wilson responded that is in its infant stages; he noted hydrogen has a lot of
potential, but a lot of study is still required. The infrastructure of hydrogen
development is key.
The meeting recessed at 8:21 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 8:26 p.m.
Stovring stated Chacko agreed the Commission has a lot of work to do in October
and recommended against having any speakers at the next meeting. She also moved
the BMP discussion and public recycling opportunities discussion to the October
meeting.
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V. REPORTS FROM STAFF
A. INTRODUCTION—NEW STUDENT COMMISSIONERS
Lauren Mosman introduced herself and stated she joined the Commission as a
student representative because she wants to make a difference in the City and make
her voice be heard. She would like to start an environmental club at the school, as it
has been dormant for a few years. She would like to do something with light bulbs
and improve the recycling at the high school.
Casey Russell introduced herself and indicated she joined the Commission because
she has a real interest in conservation in general and wanted to see how it works on a
City level. At school there are a number of things she would like to figure out how
to change.
B. PROSPECT ROAD ALTERNATIVE EAW—PROJECT STATUS
Stovring reported the City has selected Wenck Associates, and their proposal will be
completed this week and will be presented to the Council the first meeting in
October for approval. Staff is currently working out the details, as staff wants them
to move quickly.
C. GREEN ROOF/COMMUNITY CENTER—PROJECT STATUS
Stovring reported that the Parks Department and Public Works Director Gene Dietz
are considering other options for the green roof in an effort to lower costs. She noted
the green roof is still a viable option at this point. Chacko asked about the cost for
the regular roof. Stovring explained the green roof is estimated to add an additional
$200,000 to the budget.
Seymour stated he was surprised that Peter MacDonagh of Kestrel Design Group
was not consulted after the work he put into it. Stovring responded there was already
an architect on staff. Seymour suggested MacDonagh could act as a consultant to the
green roof project. Stovring responded the architectural company would have to be
the one to reach out to MacDonagh for assistance in this area.
Chacko asked whether the Parks Commission has considered the green roof yet at a
meeting. Stovring responded no, as the issue has not gotten that far yet. She added
there is agreement the roof would be funded out of the stormwater utility fund if it
moves ahead.
Daniels noted the Parks Commission is considering naming rights for the
Community Center expansion, and the green roof could be an excellent possibility
for naming rights, in order to reduce the extra cost. Stovring encouraged Seymour to
contact the Parks Director directly with the idea.
Stovring suggested Seymour send her an email requesting a meeting with Parks and
Recreation Bob Lambert and Gene Dietz, and she will forward that along.
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VI. REPORTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS
A. FRESH ENERGY DISPLAY AT THE STATE FAIR—LAUREN MOSMAN
Lauren Mosman provided a history regarding the Fresh Energy organization and
noted she and her mother volunteered at their booth at the State Fair. The
organization is pushing people to ask their elected representatives about plug-in flex-
fuel hybrids which use "grassoline" rather than gasoline. Their website is
www.fresh-energy.org. Jan Mosman suggested Fresh Energy as a possible exhibitor
at the Environmental Fair.
Chacko noted the University of Minnesota, Morris has a big project on hybrid flex-
fuel cars and encouraged Lauren Mosman to explore it.
VII. OLD BUSINESS
A. PROJECT GREEN FLEET—EAPEN CHACKO
Chacko provided the student commissioners with a brief overview of Project Green
Fleet. He reported he spoke with Kristen Johnson of Eden Prairie Schools, and the
project is moving ahead. It will be presented for school board approval in October,
and upon approval, it will take two weeks to order the parts. The District is very
excited. He noted sometime in October, Clean Air and the school district will
publicize the project.
Chacko added Johnson has indicated she will contact the Commission if anything
additional is needed in support of the project.
VIII. NEW BUSINESS/DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. ENVIRONMENTAL TIMES —POTENTIAL FALL ISSUE
Stovring suggested if anyone wants to write an article, it can be included in the next
issue. She encouraged commissioners to bring ideas to the next meeting. She
recommended commissioners look at the spring edition of Environmental Times on
the City's website and explained there is room for three or four short articles, and she
encouraged submissions regarding things the Commission is already working on.
It was decided the following articles will be written for the next meeting: Lauren
Mosman on Fresh Energy; Daniels on Wind Source; Seymour on the use of rain
gardens; and Chacko about Project Green Fleet.
IX. INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS /HANDOUTS
A. DRAFT SIGN FOR THE SMITH DOUGLAS MORE HOUSE RAINGARDEN
Stovring reported the sign is very close to completion, and it will include information
regarding rain gardens. The Watershed District is paying for half of the cost of the
sign, and the City is paying for half. She noted the signs at the water plant are
deteriorating, and two new signs may be created to replace them next year.
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Chacko asked about the new City parks signs. Stovring explained the new sign
materials are more resilient and are easier to read.
X. UPCOMING EVENT PLANNING
A. GLOBAL WARMING SEMINAR—PAX CHRISTI—OCTOBER 29, 2006
Stovring stated next month the Commission will decide what materials to present at
the Global Warming Seminar. Daniels suggested promoting Wind Source at the
seminar.
B. ENVIRONMENTAL FAIR—JANUARY 2007
Daniels reported he contacted Doug Shoemaker, and he or someone else from the
Minnesota Renewables Energy Society may present about renewable energy. They
will also have a booth at the fair. Shoemaker has indicated there is a slide show that
displays the various solar energy projects utilized in the Twin Cities area.
Krocak asked if a Commission member who is approached about an environmental
concern should present it as an informational item to the Commission or if that
person should be directed to City staff. Stovring stated it depends on the nature of
the item, for example an erosion control issue does need to be handled by the
engineering department, as that is a time-sensitive issue.
XI. NEXT MEETING
A. OCTOBER 10,2006
XII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by Daniels, to adjourn the meeting. The motion
carried 5-0. The meeting adjourned at 9:09 p.m.