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EDEN PRAIRIE CONSERVATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY,APRIL 11, 2006 5:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
PRAIRIE ROOM A & B
8080 MITCHELL ROAD
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Eapen Chacko, Chair; Jan Mosman, Vice Chair;
Ray Daniels, Rita Krocak, Geneva McMillan,
David Seymour
COMMISSION STAFF: Scott Neal, City Manager
Gene Dietz, Public Works Director
Leslie Stovring, Staff Liaison
Allison Burr, Recording Secretary
I. ROLL CALL
Chair Chacko called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Chacko asked to review future agendas before publication.
Stovring added Krocak's email of April 11,2006,to the agenda under Reports of Staff. It is
a request for Commissioners to sign a letter to the editor in support of a conference regarding
global warming.
Stovring noted she also has a discussion item regarding Minnesota Waters.
MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by Krocak, to approve the agenda as amended.
Motion carried unanimously.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
None.
IV. REPORTS OF STAFF
A. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Scott Neal thanked the Commission members for signing up for this
task. He noted the role of Commission's in the City is important,as this Commission
serves as an extension of the City Council in many ways. Commissions bring
expertise and additional minds for areas that may not be represented on the City
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Council or on City staff.
Neal continued discussing how the Commission's relationship with the Council is an
important one to recognize. The Commission's role is determined by the Council
and the parameters that the Council places on the Commission and the activities they
engage in. One thing that is to be avoided in arranging agendas and tasks for
Commissions or Boards is the City does not want to put them at odds with the
Council. The Council gets to set the larger agenda for the issues evaluated by the
Commission, as they have been elected to do so.
Neal stated because there is no current history for this Commission,there are no clear
positions adopted by the Council on a number of items. Before the Commission goes
on record as supporting something or not supporting it,it is important to make sure
the Council is on record first. For example, the Council as a whole has not taken a
position on greenhouse gas emissions. Until the Council has a position on that issue,
it is not something this Commission should sponsor or make public statements about
either as a Commission as a whole or as an individual member of the Commission.
Neal continued to discuss how the role of the Commission is also important in that
the meetings serve as a venue where additional public comment can be engaged. A
lot of work is done at the Commission level to work out details,to hear concerns and
weigh pros and cons on various issues before they are presented to the Council for
consideration. This saves the Council time on researching and developing ideas for
the types of issues assigned to the various Commissions.
Neal commented he does not have a particular vision for the way in which this
Commission will evolve,but that will be discussed as the Commission continues to
meet. He stated the role of the chair is an important one on the Commissions. The
chair is the primary contact of the Commission and will operate each meeting. He
advised that commissions and boards operate under various protocols. When there is
no public participation in the meeting, it can be more informal. At the Council or
Planning Board level, they have to use a more formal version of Roberts Rules.
Chacko asked about the timeline for when the public has to be noticed if a change in
the meeting time or date occurs. Neal responded this meeting will be a standing
meeting on the second Tuesday of the month. Stovring added the notice for the
change in the meeting time for the current meeting was posted at City Hall and on
the website calendar.
Neal indicated the Council establishes the meeting dates and times for all boards and
commissions. Typically meetings are held Mondays,Tuesdays and Thursdays. The
Commission members can meet outside the regular meeting time,but there are some
formal meeting announcements that need to be made which Stovring will handle.
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While this is a less formal meeting, a quorum is necessary to act. The quorum for
this Commission is four members. If there is no quorum at a meeting, the
Commission can discuss items that do not require action or items that are not on the
agenda,but it is recommended that the Commission hold meetings when there is a
quorum and try to stick as closely to the agenda as possible. He asked that if they are
unable to attend a meeting that Stovring be notified as soon as possible. He added
Stovring will prepare the agenda and the packet for every meeting.
Neal continued if Commission members have questions about being a City
Commission, Stovring can get those answers for you.
Mosman asked if a quorum is necessary and if business can be discussed on a field
trip. Stovring stated a field trip with the Commission, when there is a quorum,
would be considered a public meeting and a notice would be put out that the meeting
location is changed and is open to the public.
Neal stated Commission members will run into some quirky things related to being a
public body, including the timeframe for advertising meetings. Another one is data
practices and how one can contact another outside a meeting. He stated he wished
people could email each other and get feedback,but elected and appointed bodies are
prohibited from doing so. Sometimes City officials can find themselves getting close
to that on occasion.
Neal stated if supplies or information that are needed to conduct meetings,Stovring
is the contact person.
Mosman acknowledged the Commission does not want to pressure the Council to
make policies on something new, and asked how a Commission member can submit
things through Stovring to get to the Council.
Neal suggested Commissioners working with Stovring if there are some items that a
Commissioner would like feedback on. He stated he checks in on all City
Commissions and reads the monthly minutes.
Stovring stated the avenues available for staff to communicate with the Council, such
as a Friday FYI packet. If it is a general idea or thought, it can be included in that
packet. If it is a larger issue, it could go to the Council meeting itself. Staff would
need to review and present these issues as needed.
Neal added every Friday an informational packet is prepared for the Council. Every
other Thursday the Council packet is prepared for Council members. It is sent to
Councilmembers on Friday for the meeting the following Tuesday.
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Daniels asked if the Commission is a conduit for ideas or if the ideas the
Commission follow have to come down from the Council. He stated there are at
least two Commissioners interested in global warming. He asked if that that subject
can be approached during meetings and perhaps a consensus reached to send to the
Council.
Neal responded affirmatively. He added what he is trying to address is whether the
Commission has the authority to speak about the issue publicly.
Public Works Director Dietz stated among the first things the Commission will
discuss will be things on the plate already,for example,Cleanup Day. He suggested
the Commission come up with a work plan of topics to discuss over the next 12
months and also develop a strategy. He noted the Council meets with each
Commission on an annualbasis in a workshop setting. At that point the Commission
will want reports on the things that have been worked on so far.
Chacko asked about the budget timeframe. Neal responded the City uses a calendar
year budget. The City must adopt the budget for the following year by the end of
December.
It was also suggested that Commission meet with the Facilities Manager Paul Sticha
about how the City operates its buildings and whether there are opportunities for the
Commission to work with Facilities in increasing the energy efficiency of the City's
operations. Stovring suggested that they discuss with Sticha whether there is any
budget for adopting or evaluating alternatives.
Neal and Dietz departed at 5:30 p.m.
B. COMMISSION ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES
Stovring presented the Commission Roles & Responsibilities document.
Stovring discussed the final work plan for the Environmental and Waste
Management Commission. She pointed out the items included in the work plan can
be considered by this Commission. She discussed the educational materials that have
been prepared so far.
Stovring discussed that these documents are to provide a springboard for ideas when
the Commission creates its own work plan.
McMillan asked why the previous Commission was disbanded. Stovring stated an
evaluation was done of all the Commissions, and the Environmental and Waste
Management Commission was dissolved. An Environmental Education Commission
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was formed, however, not enough citizens signed up and eventually the idea was
dropped.
Seymour asked if there will be a redrafting of the purpose statement. Chacko
responded the Commission will operate under the Charter Statement. The technical
document is the Charter Statement. The Purpose Statement was created when staff
first started brainstorming about what this Commission may do.
C. E-MAIL POLICY
Stovring clarified Commission members can sign a letter to the editor as a private
citizen, not as a Commission member.
Stovring stated she mails out the agenda on the Wednesday or Thursday prior to the
meeting. To get the materials out in a more timely manner, emailing of agenda
packets may be considered in the future.
D. PAST ACTIVITIES OF THE FORMER ENVIRONMENTAL & WASTE
MANAGEMENT COMMISSION
This was discussed under Commission Roles & Responsibilities.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. GREEN BUILDING DESIGN GUIDELINES
Stovring stated one of the items that came up among most of the Commission
members was green building design. Chacko added he believes that is something
that can likely be moved on and should be a high priority on the work plan list. He
added it would help reduce operation costs.
Stovring stated green building design guidelines could be created for approval by the
Council for use by developers. The other way to look at it is in terms of City
operations. She noted Neal has suggested that there are places on City Hall where
demonstrations could potentially be developed, such as green roofs. Another idea
would be City vehicles. Perhaps the Inspections department can use a Toyota Prius
rather than a four-door sedan. There are a many ways to look at this idea;it is just a
matter of who wants to tackle writing a plan for how to address it.
Mosman asked Seymour if he has knowledge about creating a plan to address green
building design. Seymour stated he would be happy to work on it. Stovring
suggested that he could meet with Paul Sticha individually prior to arranging for him
to meet with the Commission.
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Chacko stated he has an idea of how to work on this item. There are a lot of
organizations that have done work along this line. The State has mandates now that
state-owned buildings have certain green qualities in the areas of ventilation and light
bulbs, for example. He has identified a number of resources to reference; the next
step is to pull in the local people to determine what is feasible.
B. GREEN BUSINESS AWARD PROGRAM
Stovring stated the green business award program was previously raised by a
Commission member. This was previously done by the Environment & Waste
Management Commission,and it focused on environmentally-friendly practices such
as water conservation and recycling. Back then, a green building was not on the
plate yet. The Commission gave the award, but it worked with the Chamber of
Commerce to promote it and the award was handed out during a Chamber of
Commerce meeting.
Seymour asked about a residential building award and suggested perhaps there can
be a landscaping merit award. One could be for single-family new construction;
perhaps another could be for multi-residence reconstruction or even remodels and
additions. Another award could be for tear-downs.
Krocak asked what kind of landscaping would be considered. Stovring stated in the
past the Commission has looked at native landscaping in relation to water
conservation.
Chacko added it broadly has to be consistent with the Charter Statement of the
Commission.
Stovring stated the City that she is aware of that has the most success with the award
programs for residential properties and businesses is the City of Plymouth.
Seymour asked if Plymouth subsidized storm water filtration gardens. Stovring
stated Plymouth is supportive of rainwater gardens. The one with the many
residential ones is Burnsville,but Plymouth has also been proactive in building them.
Stovring stated Plymouth also has a rebate program for native landscaping.
Mosman stated she would volunteer to speak with Plymouth and find out about their
rebate program. Seymour stated he will speak with Burnsville.
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C. FUTURE MEETING LOCATION IDEAS
Daniels stated he would like to visit the water treatment plant for one of the future
meetings. Daniels asked if a tour can be done at the sewage treatment plant in
Shakopee. Stovring stated she was previously told that the Commission can only
have meetings in Eden Prairie,but that she would check further on it.
Stovring suggested the Environmental Learning Center can be used for a field trip,
along with Dunn Brothers to visit the rain garden. Dates for when to meet in these
locations will have to be determined and noticed.
The meeting was recessed at 6:00 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 6:05 p.m.
D. WEB SITE SETUP
Stovring stated the Commission can use the webpage to post links or attachments.
Chacko stated he has a list of about 60 websites that relate to the Commission's
topics. Stovring stated to please limit the suggestions to four or five links. The links
should be for information that is short and interesting so that residents would find the
materials easy to read and understand. Too much information would deter people
from going to the web site. Additional links could also be added to the Environment
&Water Resources pages as appropriate.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
None.
VII. REPORTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS
Chacko stated he would like to set up a lead Commissioner for the various interest topics.
That person can take the lead to make sure the Commission moves forward on that issue.
Additionally, each leader can have a backup person so that somebody else knows what is
going on and can report to the Commission if the lead cannot attend the next meeting.
Mosman stated that is an excellent idea.
Chacko suggested Seymour and Mosman would be good leads on the green building design
awards.
Chacko reported the U.S. Green Building Council has a local chapter and he has spoken to
the chapter leader and that he would be willing to be a resource to our Commission. Chacko
discussed a number of other resources related to green building. He asked Seymour and
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Mosman to report at the next meeting the ways in which they want the work plan item for
green building design to evolve.
Stovring suggested Chacko work on the work plan for the next meeting. Chacko asked if
there were any items that must be in the work plan. Stovring stated that the work plan would
have to include participation in the storm water permit program,for items such as education
on storm water impacts. Other than that,Staff and perhaps the Council will look at the tasks
the Commission is proposing and make sure it fits with the goals for the commission and
determine whether they are trying to do too much.
Seymour stated the award ideas can be utilized even if the City does not want to have a green
building code.
Chacko brought up the "feeding the fleet" article. He would like to pursue alternative fuel
vehicles. He noted after looking at the State guidelines for State vehicles, he realized the
issue is not clear-cut. Daniels offered to be the backup lead on the issue.
Chacko brought up inflow and infiltration(I/I). Stovring cautioned the I/I would be coming
up in the future,but they are only now starting to research the issue.
Stovring stated the City is starting to develop a storm water non-degradation plan and
citizens will have to review that,but there is nothing to do on the issue at this stage.
Stovring suggested members read the Stormwater Pollution Prevention and Best
Management Practice(BMP) sheets on the City web site and come back with any feedback.
McMillan stated she would like to be the lead on that issue. Krocak added she will be the
backup lead.
Chacko asked if there is a timeline regarding solid waste. Stovring stated there is really
nothing coming on that right now that she is aware of; the City just rewrote the ordinance.
Chacko asked for ideas from Commissioners. Mosman stated she is thinking about symbols,
something that is recognizable. She asked if the Commission can have a graphic symbol,
something that would identify things that this Commission is involved with. Stovring stated
she will find out if that is acceptable.
Chacko stated he would like to explore the idea of sustainability. It seems ironic that Eden
Prairie used to be a farm and yet most of the food comes from far away. The schools are
taking out sodas of the schools because of the damage to the students' diet,but they are not
doing anything to address the rest of the diet. Some schools are employing community-
sustaining agriculture to bring healthier options to students. He suggested Eden Prairie look
into that. He suggested perhaps the high school can have a small plot somewhere to teach
students to grow food. McMillan stated that is something that can even be started in the
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elementary schools.
Stovring handed out Minnesota Water's "The Confluence" newsletter that includes
legislative updates and suggested that the Commissioners consider signing up for the free
newsletter.
VIII. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. NPDES STORMWATER PERMIT PROGRAM —SUMMARY OF PERMIT
CHANGES/SWPPP
B. E-WASTE/RECYCLING ASSOCIATION OF MINNESOTA E-MAIL
UPDATE
C. OUTLOOK ON FLEET MANAGEMENT: FEEDING THE FLEET
IX. FUTURE MEETINGS/EVENTS
A. EDEN PRAIRIE TOWN MEETING—APRIL 11,2006,7:00 P.M.AT FOREST
HILLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
B. EDEN PRAIRIE SCHOOL-WIDE SCIENCE FAIR—APRIL 22, 2006
Stovring stated she will man a table at the science fair and hand out materials
regarding environmental programs. She welcomed any Commissioners to join her.
It is the school's first science fair and they are hoping for good attendance.
C. EDEN PRAIRIE CLEAN-UP—SATURDAY,JUNE 17, 2006
Stovring stated people are always needed to help with traffic directors,handing out
materials, et cetera. It will be located at the Hennepin Technical College.
D. ENVIRONMENTAL FAIR 2007
Stovring reported Eden Prairie will likely have an environmental fair in 2007 and a
theme and list of speakers or ideas needs to be decided upon.
X. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by McMillan, to adjourn the meeting.
The meeting adjourned at 6:50 p.m.