HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Preservation - 05/21/2001 (5) APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, MAY 21, 2001 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
Prairie Rooms A and B
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Lori Peterson-Benike, Chairperson; Betsy
Adams, Deborah Barkley,Jennie Brown,
Kati Simons,Art Weeks, Mike Wroblewski
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Kathleen Luther, Christopher Pesheck,
Elise Johnson
COMMISSION STAFF: John Gertz, Historic Preservation Specialist
Peggy Rasmussen, Recorder
I. ROLL CALL
Peterson-Benike called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. John Gertz, Kathleen Luther
and Elise Johnson were absent. Kathie Case, representing the Historical Society, was
present for the first part of the meeting.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Peterson-Benike added a Historic Moments presentation by Kathie Case about the Smith
House, under IV. Reports and Requests, and remove the item on Lookout Park, under V.
Reports of Commission and Staff. Weeks added a report from Miller-Dunwiddie, under
VIL New Business. As John Gertz is not present, the CIP Budget item was removed
from the agenda.
MOTION: Wroblewski moved, seconded by Adams, to approve the agenda as
published and amended. Motion carried 7-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —April 16, 2001
MOTION: Simons moved, seconded by Adams, to approve the minutes of the Heritage
Preservation Commission meeting of April 16, 2001, as published. Motion carried 7-0.
IV. REPORTS AND REQUESTS
Kathie Case gave the history of the Smith-Douglas-More House. It was built in 1877 by
Sheldon Smith, and several of the bedrooms were rented for overnight lodging or to
permanent boarders. Their daughter, Arnie, married David Frank Douglas in 1892, who
left her a widow with a son, Sheldon. She never remarried, and continued to run the farm
and the boarding house. Sheldon lived in the house until the early 1950s, when it was
purchased by Helen and Earl More. They did an excellent job of maintaining the house,
and Earl added central heating and electrical wiring. The City purchased the farmstead in
1981.
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Kathie said the Historical Society purchased a couch and love seat that belonged to the
Douglas family. She showed letters written by Amy Douglas and newspaper clippings
about the house, which are kept in the museum.
Wroblewski asked what she would think if only the outside of the house can be
preserved. She said the Historical Society would like to see the house used somehow by
the City, with the City retaining ownership. They would like to see it used as a tea house,
for example. The kitchen could be altered for that purpose, because it is not a part of the
original house. A section of the house could be a museum that changes displays
frequently. However, if it were leased for a 5 - or 10-year period, the City would get it
back if they don't want to continue to lease it.
Kathie said that of the three historic houses the City owns, the Historical Society deems
the Smith-Douglas-More House the most historically significant because of where it is
and what it represents. It is all that is left of the downtown of Eden Prairie. It is
important to have them all designated as National Historic Sites. There are about 12 sites
in the City that are pending designation, some of which need only a little work to
complete. There are grants available to do this.
Kathie Case was thanked for her presentation. She reminded the commissioners they are
automatically members of the Historical Society. Their next meeting is on June 10 at the
Cummins-Grill House.
Wroblewski and Adams said they would like to see the interior of the Smith House.
Peterson-Benike said a tour of the house could be arranged. She will ask John Gertz for
some possible dates.
V. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. Statewide Historic Preservation Conference, Glenwood, Minnesota,
September 20-21, 2001
The information provided was reviewed. Peterson-Benike said she would check
into whether or not the City pays for the registration for commissioners. This will
be discussed at the next HPC meeting.
B. Social Event with Historical Society
Peterson-Benike said that in the past the HPC and the Historical Society met
every year for a social event. She suggested doing something at the Cummins-
Grill House. The two groups are a good resource for each other and what their
priorities are. She would like to form a committee of two or three members to
organize the event. It would be separate from the HPC's regular meeting time.
Wroblewski referenced Kathie Case's comment that the same questions about the
historic properties have been asked for years. He wondered if there is some
process the commissioners could institute that would settle some of these issues.
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Peterson-Benike replied there are some encumbrances to the process, but some
things have moved forward. Many times it is a financial issue.
Adams suggested having a time line of what has occurred and then the
commissioners can decide if they want to bring a subject up again for any reason.
Wroblewski asked, if the City is going to keep the three houses why not maintain
them, and if not, why keep them? Adams said the HPC has to get the community
behind the effort. It doesn't appear the residents know the value to the
community of these historic homes, judging from the community survey. The
stories about the houses have to be shared outside of the HPC and Historical
Society. Peterson-Benike suggested getting a feature in the newspaper discussing
the three properties and some of the plans for them.
Peterson-Benike said until this year, the Cummins-Grill House has not been fully
utilized. It was only used for Sun Bonnet Days. Now it is being programmed all
year. The More House was occupied until last fall, so it couldn't be used by the
City,but it did get some publicity when the City Council talked about selling it.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
CIP Budget
Weeks said the Council has delayed its budget allocation meetings because it is taking
longer than they initially thought to gather the budget information. They will be
discussing the budget at the Council Workshop on June 5.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
Weeks reported that the City hired Miller-Dunwiddie to do a comprehensive evaluation
of the three historic properties. They have completed a draft report for review this
evening. Weeks distributed copies to the commissioners. He said John Gertz had not
seen the report yet. Miller-Dunwiddie charged approximately $10,000. Although the
HPC voted to proceed with a cost evaluation, the commissioners didn't know how much
it was going to cost.
Miller-Dunwiddie developed a priority list of tasks that they believe need to be done for
the Cummins-Grill House, ranking them from the highest priority to the lowest, and have
stretched those costs over six years. They have put a higher priority on keeping the
exterior of the buildings intact. The high-priority items should be done in the first two
years of the six-year CIP.
Brown asked if the purpose of the report is to enable the HPC to present a more
comprehensive program of recommendations to the City Council. Weeks replied the
concern, that was expressed at the March HPC meeting, was that if the HPC was
depending on a four-year-old estimate, would the amount be sufficient to accomplish the
work now. The way to verify the amounts was to require a second opinion. Miller-
Dunwiddie, which prepared a feasibility study on the Cummins-Grill House, appeared to
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be a suitable selection since they have experience in architectural restoration, recently the
Burwell House in Minnetonka.
Peterson-Benike asked the commissioners to read the report before the next meeting.
Gertz and Weeks would lead the discussion.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Barkley moved, seconded by Brown, to adjourn the meeting. Chairperson
Peterson-Benike adjourned the meeting at 8:45 p.m.