HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Preservation - 01/24/2000 APPROVED MINUTES
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Monday,January 24, 2000 7:00 P.M.
Prairie Rooms A & B
8080 Mitchell Road
Commission Members: Deborah Barkley, Lori Peterson-Benike,
Kathie Case, Timothy Colliton,Jan
Mosman and James Wilson
Student Representative: Mark Perry
Staff: John Gertz, Historic Preservation
Specialist, and Carol Pelzel,Acting City
Recorder
I. ROLL CALL
Vice-Chairperson Case called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. Commission members present
included Deborah Barkley (left at 8:10 p.m.), Lori Peterson-Benike, Kathie Case, Timothy
Colliton (arrived at 7:10 p.m.) and James Wilson
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Vice-Chair Case asked for changes or additions to the agenda. Motion: Wilson moved, seconded
by Peterson-Benike, to approve the agenda as presented. Motion carried, 4-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —DECEMBER 20, 1999
MOTION: Wilson moved, seconded by Barkley, to approve the minutes of December 20, 1999,
as published. Motion carried, 4-0.
IV. REPORTS AND REQUESTS
Case said she asked Marie Wittenberg to attend this meeting to give the Commission an update
on what the Eden Prairie Historical Society had discussed at their meeting regarding the More
house. Case indicated that Ms. Wittenberg would be here at 7:20 p.m.
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V. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. Update on Boards and Commission Appointment Process
Gertz reported that City staff had met last week with the Boards and Commission liaisons
to discuss the open house on January 25 for persons interested in serving on various
Boards and Commissions. Anyone interested in serving has been asked to complete a
questionnaire to be turned into the City after which they will be interviewed by the City
Council. Gertz explained the process for filling vacancies on various Boards and
Commissions. He indicated that the Heritage Preservation Commission would need five
new members. He further explained that the biggest change to the process is that the
Boards and Commissions will no longer elect the Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson but
that they will be appointed by the City Council. Gertz stated that the City has formed a
Community Program Board, which will review all program proposals that come to the
City Council. For example, the plans submitted for three historical sites would go to this
new Board and then to the City Council. All other Board and Commission chairs will
serve on this Board. In response to a question from Barkley, Gertz explained that the
terms of Barkley, Peterson-Benike, Wilson and Case will expire in March. He stated that
if anyone is interested in continuing to serve on the Heritage Preservation Commission,
they should reapply for appointment.
B. HISTORIC SITE PLANNING PROCESS
Gertz reported that the City now has full possession of the Douglas-More house. He
explained that the family members would sell off some of the artifacts in the house. The
family also asked when the City would want to take over the house and what the long-
range plan is for the house. Those questions are one of the reasons for starting the
planning process. They need to start looking at the long-range plans for not only the
Moore house but also for the Cummins-Grill house and the Riley-Jacques Farm. Gertz
explained that City staff from various departments would be meeting to share information
relative to the future of these historical properties. All of the information will be put
together and delivered to the Heritage Preservation Commission to be used to start the
planning process for future use of the properties and for developing a recommendation as
to what each of these properties will be used for. Once the plans are in place, they will be
presented to the Community Program Board for review. After their review, that Board's
recommendation will be forwarded to the City Council for their support. Colliton asked
who from the City staff would be taking the lead on gathering this information. Gertz
responded that since two of the three properties are park facilities, the Parks and
Recreation Director, Bob Lambert, would be the lead person.
Marie Wittenberg, of the Eden Prairie Historical Society, presented a brief overview of
the discussion that took place at the last Historical Society meeting. She stated that the
Society has a lot of interest in these properties. They feel that having a renter in the
upstairs of the More house is wonderful. It is important that someone be in the house.
Wittenberg explained that the Historical Society is behind preserving this property and
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would like to be a part of it. There is a lot of talent in the organization and the members
have been around a long time and have lots of ideas and suggestions as to what can be
done to this property. Wittenberg mentioned that the Cummins-Grill house should be
cleaned. They feel it is the City's responsibility to keep these properties clean and not the
Society's. The Commission discussed with Wittenberg various alternatives for the
Douglas-More house.
Case asked what the status is of the renter at the More house. Gertz explained that the
renter would be able to stay while they are in the planning process. It does not seem
appropriate to make a decision about the renter until a decision about the house is made.
Colliton asked what the status is of the artifacts located in the More house. Case
responded that nothing was ever put in writing giving the artifacts to the City. Gertz
explained that they are not included in the purchase agreement. The fixed items in the
house will remain. Gertz said it is their hope that certain items in the home will be offered
to the City for purchase first. The Commission discussed who would purchase those
items. Gertz said if they are purchased as part of the house, the City would more than
likely pay for them. However, if it becomes a museum, the Historical Society may want
to purchase them. Wittenberg pointed out that an individual might want to purchase them
to donate to the house. Gertz said he would be sure to notify the Commission when the
sale of the artifacts is to take place.
Case asked as the Commission becomes more involved in the planning process for these
properties, should the Historical Society be included. Gertz said he was not sure how all
of this is going to work. They are only in the process of assembling the information. Once
this information is compiled, they will need to look at the cost of restoring these
properties. They may want to include the Historical Society further down the road when
they get into program use. They would want to involve as many interested parties as
possible. Case indicated that she is concerned with having to go through the new Board
for review prior to it being forwarded to the Council. She is concerned that they will feel
that it cost too much money to restore these properties. However, the City did purchase
these properties, therefore, they will need to come up with some good plans.
Colliton asked why this meeting was held at the City Center rather than at the Cummins
house. Gertz explained that the City Manager wants all meetings to be held at a public
facility where the public can attend. Colliton asked that Gertz look into this further to see
if this Commission could get a special dispensation and be allowed to meet at the
Cummins house.
Gertz said he would contact other municipalities to see what they are doing with regards
to cost for restoration and programs they are operating in historical sites and the revenues
received from those programs. Case informed the Commission that they are looking at
using the Riley-Jacques Farm as a boarding stable with the person living in the house
operating the stable. She did meet with Jean Johnson of the City's planning staff and she
felt the stable would be a permitted use for this property.
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Colliton expressed the Commission's appreciation to Ms. Wittenberg for updating the
Commission on what is happening with the Historic Society. He indicated there are a lot
of good ideas out there for the use of these sites,however, they will have to follow the
process.
VI. A. J.R. CUMMINS HOUSE PROJECTS
Gertz reported that asbestos was found in the bathroom plaster of the Cummins house.
They do not know the extent of the problem. The building inspector did find it and will
let Gertz know if it is limited to the bathroom once the tests are completed. If it is limited
to the bathroom, Gertz said he assumes they would do abatement. Colliton suggested that
they cover it. Gertz said if they did that they would have to change their plans. The
Commission agreed to wait and see what the results of the lab report are before taking the
next step. Gertz reported that all of the bat droppings were removed from the attic. The
entrances were identified and sealed. They did enter into a contract for on-going
inspection and maintenance of this house. The house and attic have been cleaned and
now it is just a matter of maintaining it.
B. RILEY-JACOUES FARM PROJECTS
Gertz reported that the roofing job on the barn is nearing completion. The roofing
company repaired the lightening rods in the barn and repaired the loose shingles with
longer nails. They are almost complete with the garage. They are tearing off the roof
decking and replacing it with plywood sheathing. Gertz said that the weather has delayed
the work the last couple of weeks.
C. UPDATE ON FY 1998 CLG GRANT
Gertz provided the Commission with copies of the Site Nomination forms. The eight
individual forms have been submitted to the State Preservation Office. They are still
working on six other sites. Gertz explained that the forms are complete enough to get
through the review process. The Commission discussed the process and procedure for
preparing the additional six Site Nomination forms.
C. UPDATE ON FY 2000 CLG GRANT
Gertz reported that he is sending a resolution to the City Council in two weeks to approve
the National Register nomination for the Overlook Site and then at the end of the month
the final proposal will be submitted to the State Historical Preservation Office (SHPO).
Gertz said he and the City's Planner would talk to the Metropolitan Airports Commission
to keep them informed of the process and to see if they will assist with the match for the
grant.
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Gertz explained that at last month's meeting the Commission talked about adding the
Consolidated School to the National Register. Staff felt it would be impossible to make
the determination whether or not it would be National Register eligible. Gertz suggested
that they not pursue the National Register for the school at this time. Case agreed and
suggested that they look at getting locally designated first.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
Selection of Graphic Designer for FY 1999 Grant to Produce Ten Heritage Site
Interpretive Signs
Gertz reported that two proposals for the interpretive signs were received. Gertz explained that in
talking to the two designers,he felt that Steve Lastavich seemed more flexible and did not limit
the number of drafts prepared. He also stayed within the budget grant amount. The other
designer, Alison Schrein, limited the number of drafts to three and was over budget. Both have
experience with computer design programs and manufacturers' requirements.
MOTION: Motion Wilson, second Peterson-Benike, to select Steven Lastavich as the Graphic
Designer to produce ten heritage site interpretive signs. Motion carried, 4-0.
Gertz explained that Jeff Cordes in Parks and Recreation is working on a trail project and Gertz
is involved in the review as to whether or not the trail corridor will impact any historical
properties. Gertz said he would write a letter to SHPO informing them that the trail corridor will
have no impact on the properties.
Gertz reported that he is also involved in an update for the Parks and Recreation Open Space
Plan. Once the City updates the guide plan, it will be distributed to the Commission for review.
Colliton informed the Commission that he would be meeting with Senator Belanger this week
regarding the Heritage Preservation tax credit proposal.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Motion Wilson, second Peterson-Benike, to adjourn the meeting at 8:40 p.m.
Motion carried, 4-0.
A.