HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Preservation - 09/16/2002 APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY SEPTEMBER 16, 2002 7:00 P.M.
Cummins-Grill House
13600 Pioneer Trail
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Lori Peterson-Benike, Chairperson; Betsy
Adams, Deborah Barkley,Jennie Brown,
Elise Kist, Kati Simons
COMMISSION STAFF: John Gertz, Historic Preservation Specialist
Peggy Rasmussen, Recorder
I. ROLL CALL
Chair Peterson-Benike called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Commissioner Barkley
was absent. Guests from the Eden Prairie Historical Society were present: Marie
Wittenberg, President, Allene Hookom, Gerry Paquin and Arlene Marshall.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
A report from the Historical Society was added under Reports of Commission and Staff.
MOTION: Betsy moved, seconded by Simons, to approve the agenda as published and
amended. Motion carried 5-0.
III. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. Report from the Historical Society
Marie Wittenberg said the Eden Prairie Historical Society was formed in 1969. It
is a registered non-profit organization and is governed by a Board of Directors.
There are about 14 active and inactive directors. It is the designated reservoir of
historical information for the City of Eden Prairie. The City is in charge of the
historic properties and the Historical Society is in charge of keeping the artifacts
and historical information.
Wittenberg said the HPC and the Historical Society have talked about having a
joint meeting in the spring. Adams agreed it would be a good idea because the
two groups can assist each other with the projects they are working on.
Wittenberg suggested meeting in the museum sometime.
Adams said it is hoped the HPC and Historical Society will get more exposure
from the news media as the Smith-Douglas-More House is converted into a Dunn
Bros. Coffee house, and people will realize there is a need for members in both
groups.
Peterson-Benike said when the Society lends photographs for use, such as was
done recently for the shopping center, they should have been identified and credit
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given to the Society. Gertz suggested drawing up a credit sheet, and attach that to
photographs when the Society lends them.
Gerry Paquin talked about Sunbonnet Day, which was held the day before. She
wondered who was responsible for organizing it, because the bedroom was not
ready for showing to people. Peterson-Benike said this is the first full year the
house has been programmed. The items left in the bedroom belong to the
Community Theatre group, which is preparing to use the house for a play. It was
agreed that communication and coordination is needed between the City and the
various groups using the house for an event.
Paquin said most people who visit a historic house expect to see it with period
furniture, but it is not in the house now. Gertz said that is also a matter of
coordination between the people having events at the house. Also, it would be
helpful to have information about the house available to give people who tour the
house. Peterson-Benike suggested having a supply of flyers with standard
information. Gertz suggested having a tabletop stand, or kiosk, with information
about the house and the Historical Society. Marshall said her husband would be
willing to make a wooden kiosk. Gertz said the City has an exhibit about the
house that could be put up again. In addition, an outdoor interpretive panel will
be put in place this fall.
Peterson-Benike suggested having a joint meeting between City staff and the
Historical Society six months prior to Sunbonnet Day to make plans for the house
tours. That may require asking that some of the furniture be returned to the house
for this event. Gertz said there should be instructions for setting up the house for
Sunbonnet Day, and the same with other events.
Paquin said some people asked where they could give contributions for
maintenance of the house. Peterson-Benike said the HPC could provide
information on what is going to be done to restore the house.
Wittenberg called attention to the fact that this house was referred to by three
different names in the flyer that went out. She would like to have one named used
consistently, and let the newspapers know what it is. Gertz said the house is
designated on the National Register as the J. R. Cummins Homestead. The
Smith-Douglas-More House is the correct name for that house. Smith House
would be the historic name if it were going to be designated on the National
Register. Peterson-Benike suggested the two groups put together a list of names
for the historic properties and agree on which one makes the most sense to use.
Paquin said one of the visitors for Sunbonnet Day was a niece of Pappy Grill.
She said she gave many items to the City, including pictures. Gertz said he didn't
recall receiving any pictures. Wittenberg said she would find out more about it
and let Gertz know.
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Regarding the Anderson Schoolhouse, Wittenberg said they expect to get the
architect's drawings within the next two weeks. Students from Hennepin
Technical Institute will be working on restoring the school.
It was agreed that the HPC should have an annual meeting with the Historical
Society. A date will be selected after the first of the year.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —AUGUST 19, 2002
Peterson-Benike made a correction on the bottom of page 1, under B. Report on NAPC
San Antonio Forum 2002. In the first sentence, the word "Office" should be "Officer."
Peterson-Benike asked that items in the minutes that are to be carried forward to the next
meeting should be noted in a separate part of the minutes so they are kept on the agenda
until they are done. It was recommended that they be placed on the agenda as item A.
Follow Up Points, under Old Business. In addition, the Recorder will mail a copy of the
Unapproved Minutes to Peterson-Benike at the same time they are sent to Gertz,
approximately two weeks before the next meeting.
MOTION: Adams moved, seconded by Brown, to approve the minutes of the Heritage
Preservation Commission meeting held on August 19, 2002, as published and amended.
Motion carried 5-0.
B. Report on the 23ra Annual Statewide Historic Preservation Conference
Peterson-Benike and Gertz attended both days of the conference. Kist, Adams
and Brown attended on the second day. It was held in Owatonna at the building
now used for the City Center and Senior Center. It was first used as an orphanage
prior to 1945 and then as a State school until 1974. This is a good example of
adaptive reuse of historic buildings.
All agreed it was a good conference. There were informational sessions about the
orphanage and school, and tours of local historic sites. A man who grew up in the
orphanage told about life there. A mock Heritage Preservation Commission
meeting was held, the point of which was how to handle design review of historic
buildings or homes requested by citizens. The subject of one session was the
large historic preservation project underway in Anoka. The community
development director gave the history of Anoka and how the city first became
interested in historic preservation. Gertz said they have an excellent plan in place.
The architect talked about the importance of installing sprinkler systems in
historic homes.
C. Sunbonnet Day
(This was covered under the Report from the Historical Society.) Brown and
Simons attended, and were able to answer some of the questions people had who
were touring the house.
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V. OLD BUSINESS
A. Follow-Up Points
• A report on the Pleasant View Cemetery was postponed to the October
meeting.
• Molly Gilbertson is to be contacted to find out if she is interested in applying
for the open position on the HPC.
B. Fredrick-Miller Springy Site Alteration Permit
Gertz said the HPC was being asked to recommend approval of the Heritage
Preservation Site Alteration Permit by the City Council at its September 17
meeting. The request is for relocation of the spring standpipe to a location nearer
the creek, construction of a new spring tank, parking area, interpretive panel and
bench seating. The City is working out a joint agreement with the Watershed
District for the renovation work.
The HPC first approved relocation and renovation plans in March 1998 for safety
reasons, because of ice and contamination from snow being plowed from the road.
Moving it to the east would eliminate that problem. Following HPC's approval of
the project, it was determined to delay work on the spring until the anticipated
water and sewer work in the area were completed. However, water and sewer
work were not extended to the spring site as expected, and will be taken through
the Hennepin Village development instead.
MOTION: Adams moved, seconded by Kist, to recommend approval of
Heritage Preservation Site Alteration Permit #2002-03-0005. Motion carried 5-
0.
C. Building Rehabilitation Projects
1. Smith-Douslas-More House
Gertz reported the new addition is being framed, so the scale of it can be
seen in comparison to the house. Vandals broke into another building on
the property and took two lighting fixtures that would have been used in
the house. Also, a fire that was set on the porch ignited some of the porch
decking, but fortunately didn't take hold. The electrician for the project
was asked to put up property lighting around the house.
Adams stated there would be an article in the Mpls-St. Paul magazine
about the partnership between the City and Dunn Bros. Coffee for
adaptive reuse of the property. Adams was thanked for contacting the
magazine about doing the story.
Gertz said one minor change was being implemented. The stove will be
positioned in the corner of the dining room rather than in the location
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originally discussed. Dunn Bros. want to use a gas stove and there was a
concern about safety. The new location will have a direct vent duct to the
outside.
The basement brick has been completely re-pointed and the floor has been
poured. The plumbing has been roughed in, and utilities are connected to
the main water line. Some electrical work is done. However, the project
is about two weeks behind schedule.
2. J. R. Cummins House
Gertz said he expects to be receiving estimates for the removing the porch,
except for the roof structure. Now that Sunbonnet Day is over, Gertz said
he would put together a memo and send it to the City Council asking them
to direct staff to clear up the debris on the property.
3. Riley-Jacques Farm
Gertz will meet with Park Department staff and go over their earlier plans
for the use of the barn. The group of students from NTI is coming up with
adaptive reuse ideas for the whole farm. When the plans are completed,
the HPC will review them.
4. Dornenkemper House
Gertz reported that a survey was done and the foundation plan is in
progress. Then they will begin work on excavation and construction of
the foundation. By October they hope to have the wood siding on the
house and make it ready for the winter. Peterson-Benike said the reason
for putting on siding is that the house probably has had wood siding most
of the time since the house was built. Logs were just a method of
construction, and adding siding was preferable.
D. Interpretive Panel Installation
Gertz said he plans to have the interpretive panels installed in October. The
locations were staked two weeks ago, except for Lookout Park, which is on
property owned by the Metropolitan Airports Commission. It is hoped MAC will
allow the interpretive panel to be installed sometime in the future. Kist asked if it
could be put on adjacent property. Gertz said it could be put on a nearby trail
owned by the City.
Peterson-Benike suggested getting an article in the paper about the HPC and the
interpretive panels. Adams said featuring one in each issue would be a good way
to do it.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
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VII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Brown moved, seconded by Kist, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried
5-0. Chair Peterson-Benike adjourned the meeting at 9:00 p.m.