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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY,JUNE 17, 2002 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
Prairie Rooms A&B
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Lori Peterson-Benike, Chairperson; Betsy
Adams, Deborah Barkley,Jennie Brown,
Elise Kist, Kati Simons,Art Weeks
COMMISSION STAFF: John Gertz, Historic Preservation Specialist
Peggy Rasmussen, Recorder
I. ROLL CALL
Peterson-Benike called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m. All members were present.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Peterson-Benike added a report on the Historical Society under IV. Reports of
Commission and Staff, and Commission Vacancies, under VI. New Business
MOTION: Adams moved, seconded by Kist, to approve the agenda as published and
amended. Motion carried 7-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —MAY 20, 2002
Simons corrected the spelling of Waseca, and Peterson-Benike corrected the spelling of
the Dammon barn on page 1, under IV. The spelling of the Dorenkemper House was
corrected on page 4, under item B.
MOTION: Weeks moved, seconded by Adams, to approve the minutes of the Heritage
Preservation Commission meeting held on May 20, 2002 as published and amended.
Motion carried 6-0-1, with Brown abstaining due to her absence.
IV. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. Annual Meeting of Eden Prairie Historical Society
Peterson-Benike reported that the Historical Society held its annual meeting on
Sunday, June 9, at the Cummins-Grill House. Afterward they toured the
Anderson Schoolhouse and the Dorenkemper House at Riley Lake. Work on the
interior of the Anderson Schoolhouse is underway, with walls being torn down to
make it into a one-room schoolhouse. Members of the Society work at the house
every Saturday and would welcome volunteers. They received a grant from the
Eden Prairie Foundation to buy a computer, with which they will enter all their
records into a database designed specifically for historical societies. They are
looking for volunteers to enter the data. The Society also needs more members to
help with their work.
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B. Farewell to Departing Commissioner Art Weeks
Peterson-Benike thanked Weeks for the ten years he has served on the HPC. He
will be missed. Weeks submitted his letter of resignation to the City Council
because he has moved from Eden Prairie to Chaska. Gertz will keep him on the
mailing list so he can keep current on the commission's activities. Weeks said the
HPC has advanced the cause of heritage preservation in this community.
C. Lookout Park Update
Gertz said he was contacted by Judy Thompson, from the Minnesota State Parks,
who said representatives from the State Parks would be touring the area and asked
what is happening about restoration of Lookout Park. Gertz told her MAC had
been approached by the City,but was not receptive to the idea of opening the park
to public access because the site lies within the Runway Protection Zone (RPZ).
Gertz believed it would be a good idea to have another group approach MAC after
everything is resolved between the City and MAC over the issue of Flying Cloud
Airport expansion. He agreed to schedule a meeting with Judy Thompson and
Jim Warren, representing the Mdewakanton Dakota Native Americans, to see if
they would be willing to meet with MAC at that time. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife
Department is another group that might be willing to talk to MAC.
Weeks asked if there had been any further vandalism of the site. Gertz said there
have been no reports of vandalism since the City cleaned up the site last fall. U.S.
Fish and Wildlife did a controlled burn that removed much of the brush, leaving
the site very open to observation from the road.
D. SLOC Interpretive Panel Final Draft
Gertz showed the final draft of the Staring Lake Outdoor Center interpretive
panel. Weeks suggested adding beaches and hotels that used to be on the south
shore of the lake. Gertz said most of the focus of the panel is on education and
outdoor activities. There is some historic text that relates to Clarence Busch who
grew hybrid seed corn on land near the lake for many years.
Gertz said the final draft will be sent to a computer graphics firm in Pennsylvania,
then returned and reviewed once more before going back to the firm for
production. When it is finished, a City crew will install it, along with the other
interpretive signs, sometime this summer.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. Smith-Douslas-More House
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Gertz attended a pre-bid meeting at the house that morning. Nine contractors
came who were interested in the project. Bob Mack explained the project and the
way bids will be divided into a City portion and a tenant portion. Afterward,
Gertz and Mack talked about the City Council meeting on June 18, when Mack
will make a presentation and there will be a public hearing. The Council is
expected to approve the Conditional Use Permit and Heritage Preservation Site
Alteration Permit, which will allow the project to proceed. Chris Eilers will be
present to meet the Council and answer any questions. The bid opening is on
June 27 at 10 a.m. in the City Center.
Gertz said he would work with City staff to make recommendations on the bids to
the City Council at its June 24 meeting. The City is obligated to take the lowest
bid, unless a problem with the bid is found.
Gertz reviewed the final plans with the commissioners. He pointed out that there
is an addendum that will be mailed to the contractors. Peterson-Benike asked if
the commissioners could have sets of plans that are reduced, and Gertz said they
could have the same half-size sheets given to the City Council.
The outdoor sign will be six feet high and 32 square feet in size. Bracketry from
the porch will be affixed to the top of the sign. It will be lighted from below. The
fireplace will be a Heatilator gas stove, which can be vented out the top. It will be
free-standing, and would occupy about the same space and the same location as
the original stove did, but will open on three sides. Molly Gilbertson can design
the top of it to fit the environment.
Gertz said the exterior lighting meets City Code, and should not intrude on the
neighbors. The costs will be split, with the City paying for lights in the parking
lot and Dunn Brothers paying for bollard lighting. It has not been determined
who would pay for lighting the patio. Weeks asked if the style of brick pavers in
the terrace area has been decided. Gertz said that question has not been settled.
He has not seen any samples.
Mr. Huber told the Planning Board he would like to see a walkway built between
the funeral home parking lot and the Smith House parking lot. The funeral home
parking lot would provide for overflow parking. HPC members said it would be a
good idea for Dunn Brothers employees to park there.
Regarding the rain garden, Gertz said there was a meeting to discuss this with
City engineers. The engineers suggested creating a swale south of the parking lot,
between that and the retaining wall, so that some of the water from the parking lot
would go into the swale first. The engineers suggested eliminating the curb from
the parking area and having an apron-like edge. That may require a wooden fence
or other barrier to prevent cars from going off the edge of the parking area into the
swale. The same would be true on the south side of the driveway.
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The engineers suggested using pavers for the sidewalk that leads from the street to
the house rather than concrete, so that any water draining off the site would
infiltrate through pavers rather than sheet-draining from concrete into the rain
garden. This has been included in the addendum as a possible material change for
the sidewalk. If it is determined that pavers will be used, the HPC would review
paver samples to make sure its use is compatible. Gertz said this is probably not
cost effective as it is more expensive than concrete.
Gertz invited HPC members to attend the City Council meeting on Tuesday
evening, June 18. He and Peterson-Benike planned to be there. They will go to
the house on Wednesday to make sure everything they want to save is out of the
house. All members were invited to join them there.
B. Dorenkemper House
The City has approved the Riley-Jacques Farm Heritage Preservation Site
Alteration Permit, so Dan Herbst can proceed with work on the house. Gertz said
he would be meeting with Ginny Dorenkemper later in the week. She has
compiled all the family photos of the property and will lend some to Gertz. He
will review them to determine styles and sizes of window and door openings so he
can give Herbst that information.
Simons said she talked to Ginny Dorenkemper, who has some ideas about how
the house could be used. It was agreed she should be involved.
C. NAPC San Antonio Forum 2002
Gertz reported SHPO approved the scholarships for Peterson-Benike, Kist, and
Adams to attend the NAPC Forum. The City has made reservations for the hotel
and airline. SHPO will reimburse the City for the total cost. In September the
State has its annual Historic Preservation Conference in Owatonna, and the three
commissioners will be part of a roundtable discussion. They will also submit a
written report when they return. Gertz said SHPO has indicated it may provide
scholarships next year, in which case other commissioners would have the
opportunity to go.
D. Riley Barn Measured Drawings
Gertz received a call from the instructor at Northwest Technical Institute drafting
school. He wants to bring students out into the field to do complete measured
drawings of buildings, and is looking for old historic buildings for the students to
work on. The City has no drawings of the Riley-Jacques farmstead or the
Dorenkemper house. The instructor brought a letter of insurance in and talked to
the City attorney, who said there wouldn't be a problem with the students doing
this work. They will begin on July 10 and will make measured drawings and
CAD files of the entire Riley-Jacques farmstead. The instructor will assign a
team of three or four students to each area. The fieldwork will take about two
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weeks, after which they will enter the information into their computers and
generate the drawings.
Gertz said these drawings should help with planning uses for the barn. In
addition, the City will have measured drawings to turn over to an architect, which
will save money. The log home restorers will have drawings to work from also.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Pleasant Hill Cemetery
Gertz said it was brought to his attention that there are questions about how many
burials exist in the old part of the cemetery because the records are incomplete.
The cemetery is owned and maintained by the City. Park maintenance staff is
concerned that since the City is now selling burial plots it would be good to know
where all the burial sites are.
Gertz said finding out who is buried in these graves would require a preservation
plan for the cemetery. He will look at possible grant sources for hiring a
consultant to do a record search and determine which graves are in question. An
archaeologist may be needed to do ground detection using radar. Gertz said he
plans to contact people who specialize in this work. In addition, real damage is
being done to the gravestones by lawn mowers, etc., so he would like to do an
evaluation of the historic headstones and transcribe the writings while they can
still be read.
Gertz said C.L.G. funds are probably the only grant funds available through the
State that the City could apply for, and the funds would not be available until
2003. By then, the cemetery would be designated a Heritage Preservation Site.
Peterson-Benike suggested the Eden Prairie Foundation as a source of funding.
She wondered if the City would be willing to pay for part of the cost, since it
owns the cemetery. Gertz said he would get an estimate of what it will cost and
approach the City Council with a request. A combination of funds would be best.
B. Eden Prairie Farmers Market
Peterson-Benike said she has been thinking that Eden Prairie should have a
Farmers Market, and believed the best place would be in the park now under
development by the City at the intersection of Technology Drive and Prairie
Center Drive. A designated location in the park would have to be provided to the
farmers on a regular basis. Local farmers would be given spaces up front; other
farmers could be given spaces farther in. Gertz suggested talking first to the area
farmers, such as George Marshall, Terry Picha and Sever Peterson, as their
support would be needed. Peterson-Benike said she would be willing to do that.
Once they indicate their support, the proposal would be made to the City Council.
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C. River View Development Archaeolou Investigation
Gertz said this development was formerly called Flint Ridge. The archaeology
investigation for that project was not concluded, but was put back in place for the
new project. The report, which commissioners received, is the result of that
archeological work. No authenticated burial sites were found, but on adjacent
property to the east a burial ground has been identified where four of the lots are
located. This project is still going through the review process.
There is a concern that development may occur before the developers agree that
an archeologist must be notified so he can monitor the site as soil is stripped off
and identify where the burial ground is. Gertz said once the excavation gets
below the top layer of soil, the archaeologist looks carefully for anything that
appears to be unusual. If he finds anything, he tests a core sample right there.
State law requires the contractor to stop work until that is done. In an area that
has high potential for burials, it is best to find out as much as possible beforehand.
D. Commission Vacancies
With the resignation of Art Weeks, there is a vacancy on the commission.
Peterson-Benike said if the commissioners know of anyone interested in applying
to fill that vacancy, he or she should come to the City Center and submit an
application as soon as possible.
Weeks was the co-chair of the HPC, so that position is now vacant. Peterson-
Benike asked members to inform Gertz if they are interested in being co-chair.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Adams moved, seconded by Simons, to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 7-0. Chair Peterson-Benike adjourned the meeting at 8:50 p.m.