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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, JUNE 16, 2003 7:00 P.M.
Prairie Rooms A & B
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Lori Peterson-Benike, Chairperson; Betsy
Adams, Deborah Barkley,Jennie Brown,
Molly Gilbertson, Elise Kist, Kati Simons
COMMISSION STAFF John Gertz, Historic Preservation
Specialist; Peggy Rasmussen, Recorder
I. ROLL CALL
Chairperson Peterson-Benike called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m., with all members
present. Vicki Pellar-Price was also present as a guest.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
A presentation by Pellar-Price was added under VIL New Business, and moved to the top
of the agenda, after approval of the minutes.
MOTION: Adams moved, seconded by Kist, to approve the agenda as published and
amended. Motion carried 7-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —MAY 19, 2003 AND MAY 29, 2003
MOTION: Gilbertson moved, seconded by Brown, to approve the minutes of the
meeting of the Heritage Preservation Commission held on May 19, 2003 and the special
meeting held on May 29, 2003, as published. Motion carried 7-0.
VI NEW BUSINESS
A. Presentation on a Story Garden for Eden Prairie
Vicki Pellar-Price spoke about "Writers Rising Up to Defend Place, Natural
Habitat, Wetlands", an organization that combines literature and the environment
by promoting poetry and writing related to the environment. The group decided
to ask for an Elizabeth Frey Ellet "Story Garden" in one of Eden Prairie's parks.
The context of the garden would be taken out of Ellet's book about Minnesota.
She wrote about this part of Minnesota, including Lake Minnetonka, Lake Harriet
and Stillwater, giving the readers a picture of the whole area. When Ellet saw the
area that is now Eden Prairie, she said she had been to the "Garden of Eden." In
the Story Garden, five or six areas of the park would be planted to follow the
story line in her book. When people enter the park they would be told about the
Story Garden places. Signs would be used to indicate where they are. The goal
of the project would be to make the park very appealing to families and children,
as well as having educational value.
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Pellar-Price said she met with Bob Lambert and he liked the idea. The site he is
considering for this is Purgatory Creek Park, now under construction. Pellar-
Price showed the Commissioners a drawing of the park concept. There is a
formal plan in place for some areas of the park, but there are also unplanned open
areas. Pellar-Price recently presented the idea to the Historical Society to gain its
support, and was asking for input from the HPC.
Gertz asked if Lambert indicated whether the Parks department would be
involved, as far as funding the project. Pellar-Price replied her organization
would have to get corporate sponsors that will donate for the design and the
plantings, but hoped the City would also contribute. She planned to ask
Bachmann's to donate plants. Gertz suggested she also ask local farmers Terry
Picha and Sever Peterson.
Pellar-Price hopes to meet with those involved in planning the layout of the park
and find out where a Story Garden will fit. She promised to keep the
Commissioners informed as the plan develops, asking for feedback and how the
HPC might want to get involved. Brochures about the Story Garden given to
those entering the park would include information about the HPC and the
Historical Society.
Peterson-Benike thanked Pellar-Price for her presentation.
IV. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. Annual Meeting of the Historical Society
Adams reported on the annual meeting, held June 14 at the J.R. Cummins
Homestead. Vicki Pellar-Price spoke about the idea of a Story Garden, as noted
above. Because the Historical Society did not get a grant from the Eden Prairie
Foundation for refinishing the furniture belonging to the Dorenkemper House, the
group voted to spend $1,000 of their funds to begin the process. An amount of
money had been donated by Ginny Dorenkemper to spend on the house.
One of the members of the Board of Directors,reported he has been informed that
the people who own the land where the Anderson Schoolhouse is now located say
it will have to be moved. The plan was to move it to the Hennepin Technical
Center for the students to work on. However, moving it will be expensive. The
Historical Society hasn't heard from Hennepin Technical Center about moving it
to their property, or from the School District about a final location. The group
realizes that owning this building is a big responsibility and potentially a huge
cost. They plan to invite someone from the SHPO to attend a meeting to discuss
the condition of the building and whether it is worth saving. Peterson-Benike said
the Historical Society realizes it will be necessary for them to get corporate
sponsorship in order to make renovations. It could be a worthwhile project if they
had the funding.
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Peterson Benike resigned from the Historical Society's Board of Directors; and
Adams was elected to take her place.
B. National Preservation Conference
Gertz reported that the National Preservation Conference would be held in Denver
from September 30 to October 5, 2003. He plans to attend. No CLG funds will
be available this year, however, to pay the cost for HPC members. He will ask
Scott Neal if funds might be available from the City.
Members would be reimbursed for the cost of attending the state preservation
conference on September 18 and 19 in New Ulm.
C. Eden Prairie Foundation Grant
Gertz reported that the Eden Prairie Foundation awarded the City $1,075 to be
used for work on the J.R. Cummins House. The money was generated by the sale
of Les Kuba prints of the house. Copies of the prints are available from the City
for$100 each.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. Dorenkemper House Update
Gertz reported that the new roof has been completed, and they hope to have the
siding on by the end of the week. The doors and windows, made of solid oak,
have been delivered and should be installed by the end of the week. The
hardware items will be ordered soon and installed within the next two weeks. The
excavator would be able to finish his work after that. Not much has been done on
the interior except to clean it up.
Brown asked if there would be an interpretive sign outside the house. Gertz said
there would be. Brown inquired if there will also be a sign for the main entrance.
Gertz replied nothing is planned at this time, but there should be one for all the
historic properties.
B. Riley Farm Update
Gertz reported on the current projects. The architect asked if the City would be
able to do the engineering for the sanitary sewer connections, which would save
$8,000-$9,000. Al Gray, the City Engineer, said the City would work up the
overall plan, do specifications, and add it to the architect's bid package, or they
can do it separately. Gertz will ask the architects if they have a preference.
A hazardous materials test is going to be done on the barn and house, as well as
on the Cummins-Grill House, so the materials can be identified. The cost for that
will be $600 per house, and $200 for the barn.
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Gertz met with the person who was collecting samples from the buildings on the
farm in order to indicate their structural strength. The species of wood used in the
buildings is unknown. The person collecting samples said if he doesn't get
sufficient information back from the samples he sends in, he has to assume
everything is working at minimum capacities and he would have to over-engineer
for the current material. Gertz expects to receive an estimate of the cost to do that
Soil borings have been completed and the engineers are waiting for the report.
The Site Alteration Permit will be presented to the City Council on July 15 for
review and approval. A workshop on preservation of the City's historic
properties will be held prior to the City Council meeting. Gertz said he is
preparing a package of information covering the Site Alteration Permit,
information on the barn renovation plan, the costs involved to this point, and also
the cost estimates for repairs to the Riley house and the J.R. Cummins house.
Gertz asked HPC members to be present for the workshop, as he will be on
vacation. He didn't believe the Commissioners would be expected to answer
questions on the budget because there is a fixed budget for 2003, and staff is
proposing that most of the budget be spent on the barn. That will take all the
money previously allocated this year for the J.R. Cummins house and the Riley
house. The Council will look into these costs. Gertz said he would break them
down to provide the Council with options.
Adams asked if City staff reviewed the budget for the Riley-Jacques barn and site
alterations and come up with suggestions. Gertz replied they did look at it, and
the consensus was that this project can be done with the existing CIP budget for
historic projects, but it will take the whole budget. Once it is up and running, it
can start creating revenue for the City. It would be more expensive to do the
work in phases. The other properties are secure. There is $11,000 available in
addition to the CIP budget to do the highest priority projects on the exterior of the
houses. That will take care of the work that is necessary for a year or two.
C. J.R. Cummins House Update
Gertz said the Council would be discussing what to do with this house at the
workshop on July 15. He reported that this historic property was purchased with
LAWCON funds, a federal source of funding handled through the Minnesota
DNR. Those funds come with strict restrictions on use of the property. The
original definition on use of the property was for recreational and educational
purposes. An adaptive reuse project would not be allowed because that doesn't
meet the definition of a permitted recreational use. Turning it into commercial
property through a lease agreement would not be permitted either, unless the use
was recreational in nature and the DNR gave its approval. The DNR has stated
that outdoor interpretive use is permitted. Gertz said he would give the City
Council information about LAWCON funds.
Gertz recommended that the HPC look for a use that would fit this property.
Possibly the Historical Society could find more uses for the building than it
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currently has, possibly as a museum. They could use it on a full-time or a shared
basis with the Parks and Recreational Services and put on more programs with
them. A non-profit organization could use the building but would not be allowed
to have an office in it.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
B. Birch Island Villas
Gertz reported there is a proposal for development of the Albert and Abbie Picha
farm on Birch Island Road. This property was being considered for designation
as a Heritage Preservation Site. Gertz met with Dwight Picha, their son, and Bill
Kaufman, the developer, and was asked to go through the house. The house was
built in about 1905. Gertz said it is not in very good condition. All the ceilings
have plaster coming down, and there is a huge mold problem. The foundation is
not in bad condition but the roof has holes in it. Gertz said the house would be
salvageable if a great deal of money was invested, but the Pichas are not
interested in preserving it; they are more interested in having the property
developed. Gertz said he didn't believe the house was worth saving. Al and
Abbie Picha are planning to move out of it.
Before the house is demolished, the HPC should make sure there is photo
documentation and consider salvaging some items if the Historical Society is
interested.
Terry Picha would like to preserve the home next door where his grandparents
first lived. That is a more complete farm and would be worth preserving, Gertz
said. However, the developer is not interested in preserving the house in place.
The HPC will be asked to consider at a later date how this home would be
impacted by the development, which will consist of townhomes.
Brown suggested putting together a brochure showing all of the City's historic
properties. Gertz agreed that would be a good idea. At the last City Council
workshop where historic properties were discussed, there was a listing made of
the properties according to the owner and the designation level, as well as
archeological sites.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Adams moved, seconded by Brown, to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 7-0. Chairperson Peterson-Benike adjourned the meeting at 8:35 p.m.