HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Preservation - 09/20/2004 APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2004 7:00 P.M.
Prairie Rooms A & B
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS Betsy Adams, Chairperson; Jennie
Brown, Vice Chairperson; Bob Amell,
Deborah Barkley, Molly Gilbertson,
Elise Kist
COMMISSION STAFF John Gertz, Historic Preservation
Specialist; Peggy Rasmussen, Recorder
I. ROLL CALL
Adams called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Commissioner Barkley was excused.
Janet Jeremiah, Director of Community Development, was in attendance.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Under New Business, Adams added a discussion about increasing the Commission to
seven members, and Gertz added a presentation by Brad Madsen on a proposed Eagle
Scout project at Riley-Jacques Farm.
MOTION: Kist moved, seconded by Brown, to approve the agenda as published and
amended. Motion carried 5-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —July 19, 2004
Gilbertson made a change on page 4; the last sentence in the second paragraph under
Anderson School Restoration should read "The greeting card depicting the school in
water colors is being sold at Dunn Bros. in the Smith-Douglas-More House to raise
money for the school."
MOTION: Brown moved, seconded by Abell, to approve the minutes of the meeting of
the Heritage Preservation Commission, held on July 19, 2004, as published and amended.
Motion carried 5-0.
IV. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. Cemetery Management Plan and Registration
Gertz said members of the HPC expressed their preference for not recommending
that the old section of the Pleasant Hill Cemetery be closed to any new burials.
As a result, Robert Vogel changed Section V. "Site Treatment Plan", to state ". . .
the Heritage Preservation Commission recommends no new burials in Old Section
lots where there is reason to believe unrecorded graves are present."
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Gertz has discussed this with Wes Dunsmore, who maintains the cemetery for the
City's Parks department. He said when digging for a new burial in the old section
they may encounter existing burials there, and he would find it impossible to be
sure there are no other burials in that section. He would recommend that no new
burials be made in those areas where there is confusion in the burial records.
Other new sections could be opened up, however. Dunsmore is looking for
someone to take the records and align them plot by plot. Over the years some
people did a better job than others of recording grave locations, and that is why
there is confusion. The paupers' section is unmarked. The records indicate
graves by plot number, but they could be incomplete or missing. Gertz didn't
know if it is possible to resolve all of the questions.
Adams asked Gertz if the document could be worded so a family would be able to
get permission to bury someone in a plot owned by the family in the old section.
Some of those plots belong to people who have already made plans to bury family
members there. She said the City Council and Parks department should
understand the HPC is not trying to prevent a family member being buried there.
Gertz replied there would not be time to get the records updated to determine
which of those plots are full before the document goes to the City Council.
Gertz said another reason for limiting new burials in the old section is that new
burials would open it up to new monuments and grave markers. It is all about
how burials impact the historical integrity of the cemetery.
Gertz recommended this part of the Site Treatment Plan be rewritten. The
intention had more to do with preservation of the old cemetery than control of
burials; however, the wording makes it appear to be the reverse. Jeremiah
suggested rewriting it to indicate what they are attempting to accomplish rather
than what is not allowed. Someone could try to get the cemetery's records in
order. After that, every effort should be made to preserve the old section within
the City's legal rights. City staff can determine whether that needs to be
addressed in any manner.
Gertz said he would rewrite the section and then the whole document could be
reviewed and approved at the next meeting.
B. Anderson School Restoration
Adams reported the task force is hoping to have the kick-off for the project in
November when they make presentations to corporate and civic leaders.
Adams asked Yvonne Grover to write the grant applications to raise money for
the project. She has attended one fundraising meeting and offered to volunteer
her services. However, grants cannot be applied for until the budget is completed,
which will be ready in time for the November kick-off.
The HTC students are expected to begin work in the fall of 2005 and continue in
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the spring of 2006. The task force hopes to have the grand opening in the summer
of 2006. One of the students is building a scale model for the task force, which
would be helpful in making presentations to the corporate sponsors.
C. Riley-Jacques Barn Update
Gertz reports the work is substantially complete, and the contractors are expected
to be finished within the week. Dedication of the restored barn will be Sunday,
September 26, at 1:30 p.m., followed by activities until 4:00 p.m. Adams
recommended that HPC members be at the dedication, if possible, to celebrate its
completion. John Gertz has worked very hard on this project and the Commission
made some decisions that allowed it to go forward.
Gertz said the first event at the barn has already been held. Soul Fire's "Prairie
Jam" was held on Friday, September 17, for 500 teen-agers. The barn was well
suited for that type of event. Many programs at the barn are expected from spring
through fall.
D. Cummins-Grill House Projects
Gertz distributed the "Reuse Planning Summary" for the J.R. Cummins
Homestead. He said it summarizes all of the discussions the HPC has had in the
past, including the discussion with the Historical Society's J.R. Cummins
Homestead Task Force. Some of the major issues have been updated and Miller-
Dunwiddie Architects recently updated the costs. The preliminary budget total is
$720,400. Because of projected uses for the house, the goal has been changed
from restoration to rehabilitation. Gertz suggested the Commission dedicate a
future meeting to discussion of this subject.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Brad Madsen's Proposal for an Eagle Scout Project at Riley-Jacques Farm
Brad Madsen, a Boy Scout with Troop 35, made a proposal for a landscaping
project at the Riley-Jacques Farmstead. He would make a wood-chip path from
the water fountain to a nearby tree, with plantings around the tree. There would
be a bench under the tree, facing the Dorenkemper house. The project would
require tearing up some sod. He would be working with up to 15 other Scouts,
with supervision by two adults. He plans to do the work on a weekend in
October.
Brad will have a $200 budget from the Parks department to work with. The
budget would cover the use of plastic edging. However, if he uses interlocking
red bricks instead, the cost of that would be $50 over the budget. Gertz said he
didn't think the Parks department would approve an additional $50. Brad would
have to get donated funds or donated bricks. From a maintenance perspective, it
would be preferable to use edging that is close to the ground. Plastic edging has
been used in the rest of the landscaping. Brad agreed plastic would be best.
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Brown asked if there would be any objection to removing some sod. Gertz said
that should not be a problem as the project would be an improvement to the
appearance of the property. Gertz believed the sod could be used right on the site.
Perhaps he or someone from the Parks Department could go out there while Brad
and the others are working and tell them where to put the sod. The plants they
will use are day lilies and hostas. Once they are planted, Gertz said the City is
responsible for maintaining the area.
MOTION: Kist moved, seconded by Brown, to approve Brad Madsen's plan for
an Eagle Scout project at Riley-Jacques Farmstead. Motion carried 5-0.
Brown suggested the City Council be asked to recognize the Eagle Scouts once
they have completed their projects. There have been three in the past 12 months.
Gertz said he believed the City Council would want to do that after this latest
project is completed in October.
B. CLG Grant Application Schedule
Gertz said pre-applications for the next round of CLG grants are due January 14,
2005, and the final due date for the grant applications is February 18, 2005. If
approved, the grants would be used to pay the cost of writing background
information needed for designation of the three historic sites the HPC has
previously selected: Staring Lake Outdoor Center, the Consolidated School and
the Indian Road Corridor. Gertz said before the applications are submitted, the
HPC will review the properties. This year's CLG grant was used to fund Robert
Vogel's work on the two local cemeteries.
C. Dorenkemper House Restoration
Gertz reported that he has not received the estimates from contractors, which are
overdue, on the cost of finishing the restoration work. He gave them a list of
tasks that needed to be done.
Gertz said the City has not approved any funding for this work, but staff has
discussed various options. Jeremiah said, when estimates are received, that
information would be submitted to the City Council, which can then decide
whether they want to move this project to the top of their list of priorities. Gertz
said if he receives them within the next week, he would like to send those figures
through to the Council. Once the house is restored, it would be eligible for
designation as a historic site, even though it has been moved. Then the HPC
would have more to say about the building's future.
D. Prioritizing Funding for Historic Properties
Gertz said he would like to discuss all the historic properties at the next meeting
of the HPC to consider the funding needs, including restoration and maintenance
costs, and to prioritize them. The primary focus would be the Cummins-Grill
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house; however, the exterior of the Riley-Jacques house needs serious
maintenance work. He is going to prepare information on the Riley-Jacques
house similar to the Cummins-Grill house for the Commissioners.
The HPC will discuss all the maintenance, restoration, and reuse issues for each
of the City-owned properties, including the Smith-Douglas-More house. In
addition, Gertz said private properties that have been designated as historic sites
by the City should be addressed, because the owners have questions about
financing, tax incentives, etc.
Because this discussion will take a considerable amount of time, the next
meeting of the HPC, on October 18, will begin at 6:00 P.M.
E. Adding a Seventh Member to the Commission
Adams recommended making an attempt to fill out the Commission by adding a
seventh member, even though half the term is over. She asked if Gertz or the
Commissioners knew of somebody they could recommend. Gertz said he knows
of a new Eden Prairie resident from Brazil, an architect that has training in
historic preservation and teaches a course on conservation of historic buildings.
He had expressed an interest in attending a recent meeting of the HPC, but did not
come. Gertz said he would try to contact him about coming to a meeting soon.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Brown moved, seconded by Gilbertson, to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 5-0. Adams adjourned the meeting at 8:45 p.m.