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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, JANUARY 12, 2004 7:00 P.M.
Atrium III
8080 Mitchell Road
Commission Members: Lori Peterson-Benike, Chairperson; Betsy
Adams, Deborah Barkley,Jennie Brown,
Molly Gilbertson,Elise Kist, Kati Simons
Student Representatives: John Buteyn, Mackenzie Epping,
Thomas Grant
Commission Staff: John Gertz, Historic Preservation
Specialist; Peggy Rasmussen, Recorder
I. ROLL CALL
Peterson-Benike called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Commissioner Barkley was
excused.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Brown moved, seconded by Kist, to approve the agenda as published.
Motion carried 6-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —December 15, 2003
Peterson-Benike made several changes. In the first paragraph on page 2, in the sentence
beginning "She pointed out . . .", "the Riley-Jacques property" should be changed to "the
Cummins-Phipps-Grill property." On page 3, in the second paragraph, "and a Farmer's
market" should be deleted from the last sentence. On page 4, in the first paragraph, the
fourth sentence should read "Peterson-Benike responded that the format he was using is
easier to understand and more concise." The last two sentences of the paragraph should
be deleted.
MOTION: Adams moved, seconded by Gilbertson, to approve the minutes of the
Heritage Preservation Commission meeting, held on December 15, 2003, as corrected.
Motion carried 6-0.
IV. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. Minnesota Chapter of the ASLA Award for Smith-Douglas-More House
Gertz reported that Close Landscape Architects is applying for the ASLA award
for the landscaping work the firm did at the Smith-Douglas-More House. Gertz
submitted the application and believes it has a good chance of receiving the
award. They will know in February.
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Gertz said he would like to assemble the awards received for the house and put
them on display, along with a text to explain the preservation program. Stu Sudak
could also be asked to write an article for the Eden Prairie News.
B. Preserve America Communities Award
Gertz referred to information received about the Bush Administration's Preserve
America initiative, which promotes historic preservation in and heritage tourism.
Gertz said Eden Prairie could apply for the Preserve America Community
designation and would likely get the award. The City meets the qualifications in
Category 2, such as efforts to protect its historic resources and having an on-going
inventory of historic sites; and in Category 3, the City provides funds for on-going
heritage preservation. If awarded, the designation could be put on the signs
leading into Eden Prairie.
MOTION: Kist moved, seconded by Brown, that an application be completed to
receive the Preserve America Community designation award. Motion carried
6-0.
C. Anderson School House Update
Adams reported that she and Simons are on the Anderson School House task
force, which will have its second meeting on January 13. The group is laying the
groundwork to move ahead with this project.
A letter was received, dated December 15, 2003 from the Eden Prairie School
District, regarding the school district's partnering with the Historical Society in
relocation of the school house. The purpose of the letter is to clarify the process
for site preparation and relocation to Prairie View Elementary School property.
Hennepin Technical College has said the students could work on restoring the
building if it were moved to the college grounds, but that would cost a great deal
of money, so no decision has been made on how it will be restored.
The Eden Prairie Foundation is holding an auction at its annual ball, and Marie
Wittenberg has suggested auctioning off the book Eden Prairie: The First 100
Years, which belongs to the City, to raise money for the restoration of the school
house. She asked if Adams would get authorization from the HPC to donate a
copy of the book.
MOTION: Adams moved, that the Heritage Preservation Commission donate a
copy of Eden Prairie: The First 100 Years, to the Eden Prairie Foundation Ball.
Brown asked if the Commission was authorized to do this. Gertz recommended
adding to the motion that the HPC supports donating the City's book. Adams
amended her motion as follows:
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MOTION: Adams moved, seconded by Brown, that the Heritage Preservation
Commission supports donating a copy of the City's book Eden Prairie: The First
100 Years, to the Eden Prairie Foundation Ball. Motion carried 6-0.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. Reuse Alternatives for the Cummins-Phipps-Grill Property
Gertz said many ideas have been offered for reuse of the property. However, the
LAWCON agreement and its listing on the National Register of Historic Places
limit the property's use. They provide guidelines for appropriate reuse
alternatives. A memo Gertz wrote to the Mayor and City Council in July 2003
contains recommendations for use of the property. The HPC can assure no drastic
changes are made to the house. The Historical Society is believed to be interested
in using the house and is waiting for a meeting with the City to discuss this
further. Therefore, the focus now is on repair and maintenance of the house.
Gertz said he would like to see the grounds developed as a Heritage Garden site.
He has contacted Terry Picha about planting vintage varieties of flowers and
vegetables, and he is interested in doing this.
Adams said if revenue-generation is important to consider, she wondered if funds
could be generated by leasing space to local farmers for a Farmers' Market. If the
Historical Society uses the house, a Farmers' Market might bring people in to see
the house and museum. Gilbertson suggested leasing space to antique dealers in
the house.
Gertz stated that he didn't believe the LAWCON agreement would allow the City
to get into a business arrangement, so the City could not lease space anywhere on
the property.
Peterson-Benike said there could be planned events when antique dealers would
be invited to come and display items for sale. Adams wondered if the dealers
could be charged a commission at those events. Gertz said the City Attorney
would be asked to look at that and determine if it would be allowed.
Gertz said he could envision having many more flowering gardens around the
property, and perhaps a kitchen garden. The property would then have an outdoor
leisure and recreational use. There are a number of other plants growing on the
property, including the peony garden planted by Harriet Phipps, so adding other
gardens would tie in with the history of the site. A Master Gardener could come
in once a season to give a talk, and that could be scheduled through Parks and
Recreation.
Brown suggested having a store inside the house where toys, books, etc., could be
sold, such as the Mill City Museum has. At the museum there was also a film
about the flour mill and a demonstration on how flour was made. Since Cummins
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was a horticulturist, she suggested having someone come to the house on occasion
to give a talk about him and about how the property was used in the past.
Peterson-Benike said the HPC was requested to recommend uses for the property
to the City Council and asked Gertz what steps should be taken next to
accomplish this. Gertz said he could come to the next meeting with more specific
ideas, or the Commission could have a few members get together to work on
details. The City still needs to work with the Historical Society. Peterson-Benike
said the Society should know what the Commission is going to recommend to the
Council, and they have to articulate what their expectations are as well.
Peterson-Benike said she believed it is most important to use the property in a
way that is very inclusive and involves the community. The HPC should be an
advocate for the site. Kist said the community would support keeping the
property if it were put to a good use.
Gertz stated that the west porch has to be completely reconstructed with a new
roof. However, he is more interested in the programming of the site right now,
because the house would need to be air-conditioned if the Historical Society uses
it. That would be considered adaptive reuse.
Gilbertson wondered if the City could get volunteers to make repairs to the house.
That would show citizens that people in the community are interested in the
house. Gertz said he believed that could be done. Grant said the City could
probably get the high school Honor Society to help with repairs. Kist said Boy
Scouts and community service groups would also likely be willing to volunteer.
Gertz said he would bring all these items together in a memo to the City Council,
for review by the HPC at the next meeting. Eventually, the HPC should meet
with members of the Historical Society before going to the Council. It is
important for the Historical Society to be involved.
B. Outdoor Space Use at the Riley-Jacques Farm
Gertz said the use of the outdoor space is tied to use of the Cummins property. If
it were adapted to a garden site, Sun Bonnet Day would have to be moved to the
Riley-Jacques Farm. That would need to be a recommendation from the HPC to
the Parks and Recreation Services.
Gertz said that some small area near the Dorenkemper house should be preserved
for planting a crop, such as wheat or rye, for demonstration purposes, and he
believed Sever Peterson would be willing to plant it. Gertz knows of a person
who would be interested in threshing the crop in the fall. Also, a large strip
surrounding and along the north side of the Dorenkemper house should be kept
open and seeded with annual prairie flowers and native grasses. That would make
a good setting for the home. Adams suggested having a kitchen garden also. Kist
said heirloom tomatoes could be grown in an historic garden. Brown suggested
having a reenactment of pioneer days, with people making butter, etc.
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Gertz would like to see the history of the farm and barn displayed on a sign.
There should be signage and landscaping at the entrance that would reflect the
farm's historic aspects.
With regard to the Dorenkemper house, it would be best to have the Historical
Society take charge of programming that. They are having furniture refinished to
use in the house and would want to protect it.
Peterson-Benike said that the HPC would have further discussions on the use of
the property at the February meeting.
C. CLG Grant Update
Gertz reported that Vogel has accomplished some primary research and has
completed the Heritage Preservation Site Registration form. More work will be
done at the cemeteries as spring approaches.
Peterson-Benike said a tour of the cemeteries would be scheduled when the
weather is better.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Chance Order Proposal Review for the Riley-Jacques Barn
Gertz reported he met with the architect and the general contractor that day to
discuss the Proposal Requests (PR) outlined in the memo he sent the
Commissioners.
Referring to PR2, Gertz said the architect had proposed using fiberglass
reinforcement cement board (FRCB) in place of wood, along the staircase
between the first and second levels. FRCB is generally used as a backer board for
tile. The advantage of using this material is that it would not be subject to rot or
mold. However, plywood would look much better and would cost less. They
decided that plywood could be substituted for FRCB, and the cost increase of
$1,284 would be removed from PR2, leaving just the $379 cost of a window-
darkening shade.
PR1 is to replace roof sheathing, at a cost of$1,247, and the City received a credit
of$1,010 because the new roof did not need a fire retardant.
PR3 is for 10 footings/excavation of $12,819, and plywood flooring of $5,354.
Gertz explained that more footings were needed. The engineers and architects
made the recommendation to build up the floor with footings made of concrete
block. They also looked at the loft floor, and decided that a substantial number of
floorboards would need to be replaced and a lot of work needed to make it level
and eliminate "toe-catchers." Instead, they decided to overlay it with a plywood
floor. The architect recommended that it be left unfinished.
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PR4 is the result of review by the City inspectors, who thought the proposed fire-
protection system was very elaborate and beyond what was needed. They asked
the contractor to reduce the cost,resulting in a credit of$5,968.
The total of the four Proposal Requests total $16,218.94, including additional fees
of $1,811.94 incurred as a result of unforeseen conditions at the footings. The
HPC was asked to make a recommendation for approval to the City Council.
MOTION: Adams moved, seconded by Kist, that the Heritage Preservation
Commission recommends that the City Council approve Proposal Requests 1, 2,
3, and 4 for the Riley-Jacques Barn Project, dated January 7, 2004. Motion
carried 6-0.
The City Council will be asked to approve the Proposal Requests at its meeting on
January 20.
B. FY 2004 CLG Grant
Gertz said that the draft application for a CLG grant is due on January 16, and the
final application on February 13. Possible grant projects would be local
designations, conversion of completed local designations to CD format, or
conducting survey work, such as a Minnesota River Valley cultural resources
survey. The HPC made a list of prioritized designations, which the
Commissioners could look at again.
Adams said she would like to complete some of the designations that were
previously selected. Simons agreed. She asked if the HPC needed to be specific
about sites in the grant application or just indicate that the City wants to complete
the designations. Gertz replied they would need to be specific about the sites.
The City did receive grants in the past for some of these sites but too many were
done in too little time and they need to be redone.
The prioritized list previously compiled by the HPC:
Consolidated School
Staring Lake Outdoor Center
Glen Lake Children's Camp
The Narrows
Indian Road Corridor in the Minnesota River Valley
Picha Farm
Gertz said the most endangered site from the prioritized list is the Consolidated
School because changes could be made to the building at any time. Staring Lake
Outdoor Center needs significant repair work. The Glen Lake Children's Camp
should be locally designated. The Minnesota River Valley properties are not in
imminent danger.
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MOTION: Gilbertson moved, seconded by Simons, to apply for a Fiscal Year
2004 CLG grant for local designation of the Staring Lake Outdoor Center, the
Consolidated School and Glen Lake Children's Camp. Motion carried 6-0.
Gertz said the cost of designating those properties would be about$6,000.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Kist moved, seconded by Brown, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried
6-0. Peterson-Benike reminded members that the next meeting would be on the second
Monday in February. She adjourned the meeting at 9:15 p.m.