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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, OCTOBER 16, 2006 7:00 P.M.
Prairie Rooms A & B
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS Betsy Adams, Chairperson; Nina Mackay,
Vice Chairperson; Richard Akerlund,
Bob Amell,Ann Higgins, Ed Muehlberg,
Jane Plaza
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Nathan Wagner,Alexandra Shea, Lauren Bentz
COMMISSION STAFF John Gertz, Historic Preservation Specialist;
Peggy Rasmussen, Recorder
I. ROLL CALL
Adams called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Commissioners Amell and Plaza were
excused. Student Representative Bentz, who was absent at the September meeting, was
introduced to the Commissioners. Shea and Wagner gave more information about
themselves. Adams said they have a voice in what the Commission is doing and the
Commissioners are interested in what they have to say.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Higgins moved, seconded by Mackay, to approve the agenda as published.
Motion carried 5-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES — SEPTEMBER 18, 2006
MOTION: Mackay moved, seconded by Akerlund, to approve the minutes of the
Heritage Preservation Commission held on September 18, 2006, as published. Motion
carried 5-0.
IV. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. PRESERVATION CONFERENCE—RED WING
Adams reported she and Commissioner Plaza attended the conference, as well as
members of the Eden Prairie Historical Society. City Manager Scott Neal and
Councilmember Sherry Butcher were also there. Adams said she gained the most
out of the conference from networking. She met Nina Archibald, Director of the
Minnesota Historical Society, among others. The reception was held at a prairie-
style house, where the owners are preservationists.
Adams read Plaza's report on the conference. Plaza said that every time she hears
more about the way a historic preservation commission operates, she realizes each
commission in the state is part of a whole and has an important contribution to
make.
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Adams reported that the 2007 National Trust for Historic Preservation Conference
will be held in St. Paul from October 2-7. This is an opportunity for Minneapolis
and St. Paul, as well as all Twin Cities communities, to participate in organizing
and volunteering for this event. Because of the national conference, there will not
be a state conference next year.
B. CITY WEB SITE—HISTORIC SITES
Gertz said he has talked to Pat Brink of the Communications Department about
meeting with him and Commissioners Plaza and Adams to discuss setting up a
link to local historic sites on the City's Web site. They have arranged to meet on
Wednesday, October 25.
Gertz said the link to historic sites would use information that is on the
interpretive panels at each location. A technical engineer on the City's staff has
put together a map showing the location of sites that are designated, those pending
designation and sites of general interest. At the present time the site will have text
only, but the Commissioners agreed that adding a voice to narrate the text would
be desirable. Gertz said the site should be up sometime in November but they
will continue working on it.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. EDEN WOOD CENTER LANDSCAPE MASTER PLAN REVIEW
Prior to reviewing the plan, Adams reported there was a meeting between the
City, the SHPO and Friendship Ventures when they discussed the Eden Wood
Center situation. She did not write the letter to the City Council, discussed at the
September HPC meeting, because a sufficient paper trail has been established
already that appears adequate to present to the City Council.
The Commissioners reviewed the proposed Eden Wood Center Master Plan for
landscaping the property. They also had a site plan that shows existing
conditions. Gertz said the SHPO has put additional review of the proposed work
plans for the camp on hold. Friendship Ventures is on notice they cannot do any
work on the property. One of the City's building inspectors met with Gertz to
discuss additional work that was unauthorized. It included building the interior
partition walls in the dormitory right to the ceiling and gutting the original interior
walls. Some material was placed under a tarp on the property. Gertz wants the
material put back in the dormitory for storage. The dumpsters holding window
trim from the original windows have been removed.
Gertz said this loss of historic material has added up to the point where the SHPO
is possibly not going to send Friendship Ventures any grant money, and they may
reevaluate the property for loss of integrity. This impacts the camp's National
Register status, which could be removed from the list. Gertz is working with the
SHPO regarding rescinding the grant and National Register status.
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Gertz said he brought the landscaping master plan to the Development Review
Committee for comments. The DRC is made up of representatives of various City
departments. Based on their comments, the City will ask for the existing plans
that were approved. For example, a rain garden, shown on the master plan, is not
necessary because there is no significant amount of hard surface on the property,
allowing water to run off into the soil
Adams noted two concrete bridges have already been added, which is an
unapproved project. One trail is already in and swales were created, none of
which were approved. However, that does not mean they would stay. Gertz said
the trails are eight feet wide. Three feet is the minimum requirement for
accessibility, so eight feet is excessive, given that we don't want to overbuild.
These trails would be primarily for wheelchairs; however they do not have to be
eight feet wide. Crushed limestone could be used, rather than asphalt, to reduce
the amount of hard surface on the site.
Gertz said probably the most egregious thing on the master plan is that one garage
facility would be gone and one would be pushed back. Gertz has told Friendship
Ventures they cannot do this. There are a number of other issues. The trail they
built did not take into account that there was an old trail nearby and they built a
new one partially over it. The only historic trail left would be between the
buildings. Also they have to take into account the trees and other plantings.
Gertz said he would ask Friendship Ventures to identify features on the site with
him that are character defining and could not be eliminated.
Muehlberg said building elevations and materials need to be provided on the
master plan. He believes a three-foot trail is probably too narrow, and he
recommends allowing a little leeway there.
Adams said the City would be working with Friendship Ventures to discuss their
best-case scenario, and then come up with a compromise using the Secretary of
Interior's standards.
Higgins asked if the site is secure. Gertz said he goes out there weekly and meets
every two weeks with City staff and the SHPO staff. In addition, someone lives
on the site, so there are no issues with security.
Higgins was surprised that the people from labor unions who donated their work
didn't inquire if permits had been obtained from the City. Gertz said permits and
an approved plan are supposed to be posted on the site and they were not. That is
the reason they were "red tagged" by the City; also for doing unauthorized work
resulting in loss of historic materials.
Higgins said she noticed the plan shows a lot of underground utilities on the site
and this concerns her because there are gas lines underground where trails are
being laid. In case the gas company has to move the gas lines, that would impact
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the site. Gertz replied oftentimes the gas company will trench the gas lines, so the
City might require directional drilling to move utilities.
Gertz said he would forward these comments and information to Friendship
Ventures. There is a need to preserve character-defining features, so he will find
out how many alterations to the site they are planning and then ask which of these
they absolutely need. He plans to start with inventorying the objects and features
on site. The camp has a park-like setting, and the setting is very important,
especially for a National Register Site. The more alterations to the original
setting, the more that takes away from its historic character.
Adams said the Commissioners have brought up some good points to address in
the master plan. Gertz offered to keep the Commissioners and the students
notified about what is happening.
B. CLG GRANT UPDATE
Adams noted that there were some questions at the last meeting about changing
the wording in the documents for the Glen Lake Children's Camp and the Bush
Log Cabin at Staring Lake.
On page 2 of the Glen Lake Children's Camp document, Gertz explained that
under "Present Use", the term "recreational facility" describes more the building
type or building classification. On page 3, under "General Character", Gertz said
the property currently functions as a summer residence camp, so that is a correct
statement. Regarding the outbuilding at the Bush Log Cabin site,he said it would
not be considered a contributing building to the historic character of the site, so if
it has to be removed due to its deteriorating condition, that would not affect the
site's historic character.
Gertz said the grant is now closed. He has completed the final report, and
forwarded to the Minnesota Historical Society a request for reimbursement. The
SHPO commented that the three designations were well written and did not
suggest any changes. The City should now be reimbursed.
Gertz said the HPC would now proceed with the designations of these three sites,
taking one or two at a time. He could not think of a more important one than
Glen Lake Children's Camp. Akerlund inquired if the problems the City is
having now with Friendship Ventures would hinder that process. Gertz replied it
would not. If the site were designated, the situation at the camp would be
reviewed. The HPC would have to approve all the changes at the camp, and they
would have to be done the right way, so designating the site should assist in
getting those changes done correctly.
Adams said she hoped the HPC can come up with a time line that will work for
the public and the City Council, as well as what is going on at the Glen Lake
Children's Camp. Gertz said once the HPC decides on a site, then it has to hold a
public hearing and, depending on what comments are made, the Commission
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closes the public hearing and makes a recommendation to send forward to the
City Council. Gertz explained that, along a parallel track, he would present the
recommendation to the Planning Commission that would then forward it to the
Council. The whole process takes a couple of months. Gertz said a public
hearing could probably be scheduled for November.
With regard to designation of the Consolidated School, Gertz recommended that
Commissioners go to a School Board meeting to present information about what
designation would mean. Gertz said the former district supervisor was in favor of
it,but he doesn't know about the current administration.
Adams said if the Commission works on designation of Staring Lake Outdoor
Center, the Consolidated School and the Glen Lake Children's Camp, it should
also add Pleasant Hill Cemetery to the list. Gertz said he would move ahead with
designation of the Glen Lake Children's Camp and see where that schedule falls
in relation to the Council's schedule. It might be necessary to wait until after the
first of the year.
Regarding the new CLG grant to do a reuse study for the Cummins-Grill House,
Gertz said he would be putting RFPs together as soon as he gets the contract back
from the SHPO. The RFPs will be sent to individual consultants, like Pathfinder,
and historical consulting firms, like Miller Dunwiddie. In terms of participation
by Commission members, Gertz said the consultant would probably want the
HPC to provide a forum for the study, and one of the Commissioners might be
asked to be a member of the reuse study team.
Higgins inquired about the status of the work on Pioneer Trail as it relates to the
Cummins property. Gertz said nothing has changed, but all parties are in
discussion with each other. The City is waiting for a response from the National
Park Service; the SHPO is still dealing with the state and county. Work on the
road is to start in 2008.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. CULTURAL RESOURCES ASSESSMENT FOR PROSPECT ROAD
ALTERNATE ROUTES
Gertz said Gene Dietz asked him to provide locations of any cultural resources
that might impact the four alternate routes being considered for Prospect Road.
Gertz said his task was to look at the alternate routes and let the engineering
department know if any cultural resources would be impacted.
Gertz showed the Commissioners a map of the proposed routes. Two of them
would have a visual impact on the site where Fredrick-Miller Spring is located,
which is a heritage preservation site. The rural aspect of its setting would be
diminished, which is one of the defining characteristics of the spring. The
cultural impacts would be a concern for him and the HPC. If one of those routes
near the spring is approved, Gertz said he would ask for an archaeological dig.
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There are two Indian burial mound groups near the alternate routes. The burial
sites fall under jurisdiction of the state archaeologist and local Sioux Indian tribe
and would have to be consulted. Burial mounds are strictly protected by law.
The City Council has ordered an EAW to find out if any routes have
environmental impacts. The above information should be included in the EAW
study. The HPC does not have to take any action at this time.
B. RENAMING THE PURGATORY CREEK RECREATION AREA
The memo from Bob Lambert about renaming this area indicates the City Council
asked for review and discussion by the HPC and the Parks Commission. The
suggestion to rename it Memorial Park came from the Veterans Memorial
Committee. Lambert told Gertz that the policy for naming of parks is to look at
historic features or a prominent physical feature. If the HPC has any suggestions,
Lambert will take them to the Parks Commission and the City Council next
month.
Muehlberg said the recreation area is more than just a memorial park; that is too
narrow a scope and is not broad enough to describe the area. Akerlund said the
name of Purgatory Creek comes from the fact that mosquitoes bothered the
pioneers so much they said it was like being in Purgatory; the name carries some
of the trials pioneers had. Adams agreed, and thought it would be a shame to
remove that significance by removing Purgatory from the name. Mackay said it
depends on who you are talking to; some people like the name Memorial Park.
Gertz said he didn't know why anyone would want to remove the historic
significance of the name. Adams added that Purgatory Creek runs all the way
through Eden Prairie and beyond. It is a character-defining feature of the City.
She suggested the name Purgatory Creek Memorial Park. Akerlund said the name
could indicate a memorial to the pioneers as well as war veterans and Jean Harris.
MOTION: Akerlund moved, seconded by Mackay, that the Heritage Preservation
Commission recommends that the name Purgatory Creek is retained in any future
renaming of the Purgatory Creek Recreation Area. Motion carried 5-0.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Mackay moved, seconded by Akerlund, to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 5-0. Adams adjourned the meeting at 9:00 p.m.