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CONSERVATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 2007 7:00 PM, CITY CENTER
Prairie Room
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Eapen Chacko (Chair), Ray Daniels, Laura Jester,
Sean Katof, Rita Krocak, Geneva MacMillan, Jan
Mo sman
STUDENT MEMBERS: Marie Loeffelholz, James (JP) Maslyn, Ann Wachutka
STAFF: Leslie A. Stovring, Staff Liaison
Angela Perschnick, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Commission Chair Chacko called the meeting to order at approximately 7:03 PM.
Commissioners Katof and Mosman were absent (Mosman dropped by briefly prior to the
meeting and left some materials with Chacko for one segment of the meeting).
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: MacMillan moved, seconded by Jester, to approve the agenda. Motion carried
5-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. October 9,2007
MOTION: Daniels moved, seconded by Krocak, to approve the agenda as printed.
Motion carried 5-0.
IV. REPORTS FROM STAFF
A. 20-40-15 Program Update—Speaker
Speakers from McKinstry Consulting (Greg, Paul, and Tom) came to speak about the
status of their work on the 20-40-15 initiative (increase energy efficiency by 20%
and increase fuel efficiency by 40% by 2015). They are currently in the first phase.
The CREE (Commercial Real Estate Efficiency) program sponsored by Xcel is being
explored as it could give the City some cost-sharing opportunities. They walked
through an overview of the process as well as the progress to date. They also
discussed the CREE program, some of the recommended improvements and how the
program could be expanded out into the community at large.
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The 2005 year will be the baseline for energy-savings measurements. McKinstry
uses a "budget neutral" process, which means they propose implementing capital
projects that will largely payback in efficiencies that save energy costs over a
reasonable timeframe. Heat and lighting system modifications are part of the
process. The Xcel program is for owner-occupied and leased space, and there is a
30% kicker for 3 years for any improvements implemented in or planned for 2008
(and implemented no later than 2009).
McKinstry has done initial walk-throughs of the facilities, completed preliminary
identification of conservation measures, and tonight the Project Development
Agreement will be presented to the City Council meeting. Next they will complete a
detailed engineering study, work on competitive pricing, and put together the final
contract that would include guaranteed pricing/savings and a measurement guide.
Items McKinstry is evaluating are: improving light quality while reducing energy
consumption, upgrading and expanding the computerized control system to improve
comfort levels and consume less energy and increasing the capacity of some
emergency generators. They also plan to evaluate upgrading the dehumidifiers in the
Community Center, and the use of geo-thermal heat in Fire Station #3 (by
Community Center). Window replacements at the Senior Center will be evaluated
also. They will look into hybrid vehicles also to increase fuel efficiency. The use of
small wind turbines to offset electrical costs may also be incorporated at Fire Station
#3. Commissioners responded positively to the innovation, efficiency and
demonstration value of the geo-thermal pump and the wind turbine.
Demonstration projects that can provide an opportunity for community outreach and
connections with the school district (students can get involved with the projects as
part of their classes) will be included where viable.
McKinstry met with the tenants group last week (City Center occupants such as CH
Robinson and the school district,). They shared this process with the school district
and have plans to work with them more. They have had success in other
communities with finding key stakeholders and partnering with them (large energy
users), and they have been able to do more together than any one of them could do
on their own. They want to make sure to look at everything that is economically
feasible and also technologies that are on the horizon (such as small wind turbines).
MacMillan asked about geothermal application at the Community Center, and Greg
answered that this is not currently taking place or planned for the Community
Center.
McKinstry stated they want to take what the City is doing and magnify the impact
throughout the community. The Xcel CREE program provides a good opportunity to
get other stakeholders in the City involved who could also receive benefits. The
CREE program expires at the end of 2008 (the 30% benefit). Projects have to be
either implemented or under contract and in the queue by the end of 2008 with
implementation no later than the end of 2009 to be eligible for the CREE program.
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McKinstry is currently helping the University of Minnesota at Morris become carbon
neutral, and these efforts can encourage other entities (businesses, etc.) to jump on
board. They have identified the University's energy consumption, and they are well
on their way to their goal of carbon neutrality. There will be a 75-80% reduction in
emissions from 2006 once all the initiatives are in place. They are utilizing corn
stalks for the University's primary fuel source. Daniels asked about the wind turbine
currently at the University of Minnesota at Morris, and Paul said it was included in
their energy consumption from 2006. Also a few more will be added before the
energy initiative is completed there. Small wind turbines are fairly readily available,
but large ones are very difficult to buy (there is a long waiting list unless a company
with an existing order decides they need fewer or cancels their order; then they may
be able to get one).
There is also a community outreach and communication system that is part of the
initiative, and part of the goal is to take what is being done to increase energy
efficiency and to get credit for it. The data will be accessible for research at the
University also, and they are hoping the public will be engaged by this process and
get on board to modify their behavior also.
Stovring suggested that McKinstry visit the Conservation Commission again for an
update after their detailed engineering study (DES) is completed (this is expected in
early January). Guaranteed pricing and savings will be available once the DES is
completed. McKinstry will provide guidance to tell the Conservation Commission
what the financial, political, and public relations implications could be from certain
initiatives. It was clarified that the City Council needs to approve the money for the
initiatives.
Daniels asked about the increase in square footage to the Community Center, for
example, would affect the 2005 baseline. The City will decide this and could choose
to keep the 2005 baseline or build on an assumption of what emissions would have
been with the new square footage. Ed Sorenson said we need for the City to show
some successes and what they are doing before trying to get other stakeholders on
board. One of the challenges is to change enthusiasm for change into demonstrating
benefits and creating momentum for getting things done.
The commission took a break from 7:45 until approximately 8 PM, when the group reconvened.
B. Yard & Garden Expo/Chamber of Commerce
Stovring met with Pat Mulqueeny and the people at Grace Church regarding the
upcoming Yard & Garden Expo. She will hear back from them soon to find out how
many free spaces the City/Commission can have. The Expo will be held on March 8,
2008 from 10am-4pm. The event is aimed at businesses and residents in Eden
Prairie. Some ideas for kids' activities included those that would be led by
representatives from the Minnesota Zoo and Art Smart, and these would be activities
that could be held in a large open space upstairs at Grace Church during the Expo.
The Expo is sponsored by the Eden Prairie Chamber of Commerce, and it includes
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mostly outdoors types of businesses, including businesses such as Gander Mountain,
builders, landscaping companies, and similar businesses. The cost is $350 per booth.
Chacko asked if the Commission would be planning the event at upcoming meetings,
and Stovring confirmed that was the plan. An Event Coordinator was hired by the
Chamber to help with some aspects of the overall planning also, and they are hoping
for higher attendance this year than last year. Daniels said that Eden Prairie has not
built up their clientele as much as other cities nearby have.
Krocak asked if the commission could involve Pax Christi's environmental group in
their efforts for the Expo. Chacko has spoken to and invited them to participate with
the commission but has been unable to set something up yet.
Stovring said they can plan to have 4-5 speakers in the rooms and asked Commission
members to share ideas for possible speakers at the next meeting. Jester mentioned
that she knows a speaker who went through the Al Gore training and would probably
welcome an opportunity to speak at the Expo. McKinstry could give an update also
(as another possible speaker). Chacko noted that Dave Tillman, an expert on grasses
at the University of Minnesota, could be asked to speak at the Expo (or someone
who works with him). Chacko later suggested that Allied or Waste Management
could be asked to speak at the Expo also.
C. Springy Workshop—Pond and Lake Care
Stovring asked if the group wanted to combine the spring workshop regarding lakes
and ponds with the Expo. Jester stated she would rather keep them separate. It was
noted that the Expo would be a good place to advertise for the workshop, and a sign
up sheet could be available there. Stovring suggested that copies of Rusty Schmidt's
new book, Blue Thumb Guide to the Rain Gardens, could be handed out at the
workshop and she will look into purchasing some copies.
V. REPORTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS
A. Nobel Conference
MacMillan attended the most recent Nobel Conference (#43) last month. This year's
topic was "Heating Up, THE ENERGY DEBATE." The focus was on finding and
harnessing energy resources. A summary of the conference was provided with the
agenda for tonight's meeting, and MacMillan described highlights from the
conference during the meeting. She also emphasized that people need to speak out
on these types of issues to make a difference in their communities and the world.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Chance A Light Campaisn Update
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There were no updates for the Change A Light Campaign. Daniels asked where the
rebates are coming from. Chacko stated there are instant rebates at Menards and Ace
available in October and possibly November too.
B. Work Plan for 2008
Stovring asked for feedback on the 2008 Work Plan before it is presented to the City
Council, and she clarified that changes can be made to the Work Plan as is
appropriate throughout the year too. At the December 4 City Council meeting,
Chacko will present updates on the Conservation Commission's initiatives, including
highlights from the 2008 Work Plan, to the Council. Jester asked about the potential
rebate and cost sharing programs, and she wanted to make sure these were included
in the Work Plan. Stovring clarified that these programs are mentioned near the end
of the Work Plan.
Krocak asked if they should consider changing the Conservation Commission's
charter statement to take out what the Parks & Recreation department is doing.
Stovring considers the charter statement still appropriate as written since it lists items
the Conservation Commission may do, not what they must or have to do. Jester does
not see a need to change the charter, but she is open to considering it if others see a
need to change it. Krocak thinks it would make sense to add "no input is needed at
this time" to the statement in the Work Plan about these items.
The group plans to look into green zoning codes as a group as part of the 2008 work
plan.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Educational Material Ideas
Daniels and MacMillan went to St. Paul and visited the Minnesota Pollution Control
Agency and Minnesota Department of Commerce during MEA. They found a lot of
good printed materials that could be good to distribute at upcoming events, and the
Commission can order as many copies of them as they would like for future use.
CDs were available from the Minnesota Department of Commerce also. They were
also given six or seven names of people to contact who can do programs on shore
restoration. Daniels suggested they could provide the materials to churches to give
them out at events like the Expo. Stovring noted they could order resources through
the Hennepin County web site also.
MacMillan asked if the DNR would have a booth at the Yard & Garden Expo, and
Stovring said she is not sure yet. Stovring is still waiting to find out how many free
spots the City will have.
The students said there is not much for environmental science available in the high
school,but a lot of students would be interested if it were distributed.
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Chacko briefly presented information from Jan Mosman, including a report from
Crowling Power, which talks about issues like those addressed in the 20-40-15
initiative.
VIII. INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS /HANDOUTS/COMMUNICATIONS
IX. UPCOMING EVENTS
A. Presentation at City Council—December 4, 2007
Chacko will present an update on behalf of the Conservation Commission at the
December 41h City Council meeting. It was suggested that he incorporate some
material from the minutes from the October Conservation Commission meeting into
the presentation. The Council workshop is still to be held in January. It would have
been in December but was moved to the 2nd meeting in January due to the time that
needed to be spent on the budget.
B. Yard & Garden Expo—March 8, 2008
X. NEXT MEETING
A. December 11, 2007
X. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Krocak moved, seconded by Daniels, to adjourn. Motion carried 5-0. Chair
Chacko adjourned the meeting at 9:02 PM.