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PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 2002 7:00 P.M.
City Center
Council Chambers
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Dick Brown, Vice-Chair, Rob Barrett, Jeffrey
Gerst, David Larson, Bruce Schaepe, Trisha
Swanson, Kim Teaver and Philip Wright
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Chair Munna Yasiri
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Lauren Astry, Chris Shea and David Westphal
COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Bob Lambert, Director of Parks and Recreation
Services; Laurie Obiazor, Manager of Recreation
Services; Stu Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural
Resources and Carol Pelzel, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order by Vice-Chair Brown at 7:00 p.m.
A. Appointment of Student Representatives
Brown introduced the student representatives of the Commission. Astry explained that she is
a soccer and basketball player and wants to serve on the Commission so that she is able to
give something back to the community. Westphal said he is a student at Hopkins Senior High
and lives near one of the City parks. He feels that decisions of this body affects what happens
near him. Shea reported that he plays soccer and that he was a member of the teen work
program two years ago and for three years worked with kids from ages 4 to 12. He decided to
join this Commission to make parks better for children and to also give something back to
the community.
Brown welcomed the Student Representatives and said they are welcome to participate in the
Commission's discussions. They cannot vote but their participation is welcome.
B. Introductions (Refer to Commission Report)
A listing of Commission members, their addresses, telephone numbers and e-mail addresses
was included in the Commission's agenda material. Wright indicated that the listing showed
it as Private Data. He questioned what that meant. Lambert responded that anything listed as
Private Data is not distributed to the public.
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II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Gerst pointed out that his first name should be spelled Jeffrey.
Motion: Barrett moved, Gerst seconded, to approve the agenda as corrected. The motion carried
8-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —October 7, 2002
Motion: Larson moved, Swanson seconded, to approve the October 7, 2002, minutes as
presented. The motion carried, 8-0.
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. Off-leash Doi Park Committee
Lambert introduced Libby Hargrove explaining that last month the Commission did approve
the Charter Statement for an Off-leash Dog Park Committee. He indicated that he asked Ms.
Hargrove to provide the City with a list of volunteers who would be willing to serve on this
Committee.
Hargrove explained that they had been before this Commission last month and since that
time they have been moving forward. She provided the Commission with biographies of four
individuals that are willing to serve on the Committee. Cheryl Loose presented the
Commission with the petition including 1,640 signatures requesting that the City consider
developing an off-leash dog park.. She asked that the Commission accept the petition as
evidence and support for Eden Prairie to use public land for an off-leash dog park. Loose
said they feel the use of recreational land is of interest to a broad range of residents and they
appreciate this Commission taking the time to look into this issue.
Brown pointed out that on Loose's application she indicated that she has visited other dog
parks. He asked what acreage would be necessary for an adequate park in Eden Prairie.
Loose responded that one of the smallest parks is about five acres. She has done some
research and they have identified what they think would be needed. The size depends on the
number of dogs using the facility. They do not want to destroy the land by overusing it but
they do want to be flexible. Bloomington's park is approximately 25 acres which appears to
be mid-range. There are four parks that are larger than that. Wright pointed out that Maple
Grove has a park that is 40 acres and there is one by Lake of the Isles that is two acres.
Dana Brewer introduced herself explaining that she would be serving on the Committee. She
has been an Eden Prairie resident since 1981 and currently has two dogs and is very
interested in providing a safe facility for their dogs to exercise and interact with other dogs.
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Brown recommended that they have two Commission members serve on the Committee. This
gives each member reinforcement and allows them to provide the Commission with a
broader range of information. Wright said he would be willing to serve on the Off-leash Dog
Park Committee. Hargrove said the first meeting of the Committee would be Friday,
November 15, at 9:00 a.m. to view the proposed property offered for their review.
Motion: Gerst moved, Barrett seconded, to accept the petition for an Off-leash Dog Park and
to appoint an ad hoc committee for the park consisting of David Larson, Parks, Recreation
and Natural Resources Commission Member; Libby Hargrove, Cheryl Loose, Robert
Skimmer and Dana Brewer. The motion carried, 8-0.
B. Community Center Improvement Study Committee
Brown explained that discussion of this item has been on-going for some time and this
Commission needs to discuss and to appoint an ad hoc committee to recommend
improvements to the Community Center. Brown said he feels they need at least two Parks
and Recreation Commission members on this Committee. Lambert said they anticipate three
meetings. Brown said he honestly believes two people can do a good job representing this
Commission. He said he feels that at least four members of the Committee will work hard for
what they want and this Commission must be well represented so that they can stand up for
the whole City and not for special interest groups.
Barrett and Gerst said they would be willing to serve on the Committee. Student
Representatives Astry and Shea said they would also like to serve on the Committee. Brown
said it is important that they get well-rounded information and input. Schaepe said he would
also be interested in serving on the Committee.
Motion: Larson moved, Schaepe seconded, to appoint an ad hoc committee to evaluate the
improvements needed at the Community Center. Membership will consist of the following:
Gary Greenberg, Foxjets Board Member
John Schmelzle, Hockey Association President
Holly Buhler, Figure Skating Club Vice President
Nancy Schmitt, Student Activities Coordinator for School District 272
Jean Myers, Citizen at Large/Community Center Member
Mike Boland, Citizen at Laerge/Community Center Member
Mary Campbell, Citizen at Large/Community Center Member
Rob Barrett, Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission
Jeffrey Gerst, Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission
Bruce Schaepe, Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission
Lauren Astry, Student Representative, Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources
Commission
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Chris Shea, Student Representative, Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources
Commission
The motion carried, 8-0.
C. Eden Prairie Park and Open Space System Plan
Lambert explained that the draft Eden Prairie Park and Open Space System Plan was
prepared by SRF Consulting Group, Inc. in October, 2002. He explained that final
recommended changes will be incorporated into one document to develop a final Plan.
Lambert suggested that the Commission use the final document as a guide for making
recommendations to the City Council regarding the City's parks and open space. Lambert
said the Commission would be asked to review a chapter at a time and will be added to the
Commission's agenda. He indicated that they have not changed their course or direction but
have simply updated the 1988 issue. There are numerous changes to the document,
particularly in the inventory section. There have also been some minor changes made to the
policy section. Lambert indicated that the Wetlands Chapter was completely rewritten
substituting the Wetland Management Plan for the Wetlands Chapter. This document makes
reference to the plan and presents basic information.
Wright asked how the City ranks with other cities relative to this plan. He said he could not
see other cities developing such a plan. Lambert responded that just about every city does a
similar plan. In 1988 the Met Council used Eden Prairie's plan as the model. Lambert
pointed out that the most important money the have spent on the Park system is the updating
of this plan. The plan guides the City Council and Commission members on what the City
wants to do. It gives them a basis to be fair in decision making on every part of the
community. Lambert said this is a well thought out plan and he does not think it is non-
typical of what other cities do,however, the amount of land Eden Prairie has preserved for
park land is not typical.
Brown asked if there was any mention of expanding the City's Senior Center. Lambert
explained that it does not speak specifically to the Senior Center. It does refer to the fact that
the Eden Prairie population is an aging population and that the senior population is growing
in the City. They do need to address programs and services that the population will need and
expects to have in the future. Brown pointed out that the Senior Center is a beautiful facility
but it does close at 3:00 p.m. Lambert said it is this Commission's responsibility to make
those points to the staff and the Commission may ask that staff look into this further. Brown
said there are so many things that could be done at the Senior Center that are not being done.
The City is spending a lot of money to keep this facility going.
Schaepe asked if there is any discussion regarding the handling of geese in the document.
Gerst pointed out that on Page 6, in the Executive Summary, the ages of the residents does
not correspond with a previous entry.
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Schaepe said that on Pages 2-20 there is a list of existing facilities in neighborhood parks. It
also talks about sand volleyball courts,however, volleyball is not listed in the chart. He said
he would like to see all of the outdoor volleyball courts listed. He said he would like
volleyball courts to be given the same status as tennis courts. Schaepe said he has a similar
request on Pages 325 and 326. When looking at indoor facilities they talk about basketball
and tennis. He said he would also like to see volleyball included. Schaepe said he would like
to see the goals and policies for using the Community Center and for running sports leagues
included in this document. He asked what the City's policy is for geese and mosquito
control. Lambert responded that the policy chapter was one they were considering
eliminating because it may imply these are all of the City policies. The policies included in
this document are policies that planners would use when planning park systems. A book of
operation policies for the Community Center does exist and there is also a three inch binder
with polices for management and maintenance of the park system. The City has many
operational policies including policies for deer management and goose management.
Lambert said they would review all of the comments made and will make the changes to the
final document. They will also attempt to make the recommended changes to the charts in the
document and the goals and policies on the running of sport leagues should be included.
Schaepe said he feels that Chapter 8, Capital Improvement Planning, is an important part of
the document. It allows you to look at any project and evaluate it by the criteria included in
this document. He asked who would be doing the evaluating of a specific project. Lambert
responded that the Parks Commission reviews the Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) on an
annual basis. Lambert said he updates the six-year CIP three or four times a year. As projects
are bid the CIP is updated with the actual cost. Schaepe asked if that process could be
summarized and included in Chapter 8 along with an explanation of how City Staff, City
Commissions and City Council are involved in this process.
Motion: Barrett moved, Larson seconded, to approve the draft copy of the Eden Prairie Park
and Open Space System Plan as prepared by SRF Consulting Group, Inc. in October 2002.
The motion carried, 8-0.
Lambert said staff would provide the Commission with the changes to this document at the
next Commission meeting based on comments made this evening.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
VII. REPORTS OF STAFF
V. ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Wright moved, Larson seconded, to adjourn the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at
8:00 p.m. The motion carried 8-0.