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CONSERVATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY, MARCH 13, 2007 7:00 PM, CITY CENTER
8080 Mitchell Road, Eden Prairie, MN
Prairie Room
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Eapen Chacko (Chair), Jan Mosman (Vice Chair), Ray
Daniels, Rita Krocak, Geneva MacMillan, David Seymour
STUDENT COMMISSIONERS: Alesia Casanova, Lauren Mosman, Mark Muston
CITY STAFF: Leslie A. Stovring, Staff Liaison
Janice Curielli, Recording Secretary
VISITORS: Laura Jester
I. ROLL CALL
Chair Chacko called the meeting to order at 7:05 PM. Student Commissioner Lauren
Mosman arrived late.
Stovring introduced Laura Jester who has been appointed to the Conservation Commission,
effective April 1, 2007.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Daniels added Item V.A. HF375 — Global Warming Mitigation Act of 2007 and Item
VILC. Discussion of Carbon Dioxide.
MOTION: Krocak moved, seconded by Seymour, to approve the agenda as amended.
Motion carried 6-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. February 13, 2007
MOTION: MacMillan moved, seconded by Mosman, to approve the minutes of the
February 13, 2007 meeting as published. Motion carried 6-0.
IV. REPORTS FROM STAFF
A. Public Meeting for Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan (SWPPP) —
3/13/2007 from 6:00 to 7:00 pm in the Prairie Room
Stovring said no one attended the public meeting except for the Commission
members. MacMillan thought the newspaper did a good job of reviewing what
tonight's meeting would be.
Jan Mosman said she has observed instances where a school teacher has encouraged
students to attend public meetings by offering extra credit or some other incentive.
Such incentives would help students and others to learn about issues in the City.
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Perhaps they could be encouraged to come to the Conservation Commission
meeting. The consensus was that this would be a good idea, and Jan Mosman offered
to help determine which teachers at the high school might be receptive to the idea.
Stovring said we could provide the teachers with a copy of our Work Plan.
B. Goose Management Plan—Status Report
Stovring said Dr. Cooper from the University of Minnesota will come to next
month's meeting to speak about the Goose Management Plan. She encouraged
Commissioners to bring questions for Dr. Cooper. She said the Commission should
look at developing recommendations to send on to the City Council.
Stovring said we will also need to review the contingency plan for potential items
such as bird flu and determine if that plan is as strong as we want it to be. Dr. Cooper
discusses that issue as he thinks it is only a matter of time before it shows up.
Chacko asked if the state epidemiologist does any work on pathways. Stovring said
the state epidemiologist looks at what to do if an epidemic comes, for instance, how
long to stay home and how long to close the schools. She said they have chosen five
diseases of concern, including anthrax, bird flu and small pox.
Seymour asked if this is similar to the Y2K issue. Stovring said we know something
is going to break out,but we don't know when or how far it will spread.
C. Prospect Road Alternative EAW—Planning Commission Meeting 3/12/2007
Stovring said the Planning Commission meeting last night went very well. The
public comment time has been extended through April 11. There was a request to
look at the impact on the Big Woods and there were questions regarding upgrades
required for Dell Road. There were requests for more information about
environmental issues regarding the impact on the bluffs. She said she will write up
and distribute the oral comments made to Commissioners.
Stovring said there was discussion between a Planning Commission member and
City Engineer Al Gray regarding the need for a "no-build" alternative. Daniels said a
"no-build" alternative should have been included. Stovring said there will have to be
something done to Eden Prairie Road as it is currently an unsafe corridor.
D. Round Lake — Riley-Pumatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District Meeting
3/7/2007
Stovring said Steve McComas from Blue Water Science presented the information
collected in 2006 at the Watershed District's March 7ffi meeting. According to the
report, Round Lake was not impaired in regard to nutrient levels in 2005 and 2006,
and it is actually in pretty good shape.
Stovring said we proposed to the Watershed District that monitoring work be
continued and encouraged going forward with the storm water pond upgrades
previously petitioned by the City.
Jan Mosman noted she had seen large numbers of geese around the ponds. Stovring
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said there were few present when the consultant evaluated the goose population last
summer. She said this summer they plan to try various measures, including treating
the beach with a weak chlorine product and installing a scarecrow-type device. They
plan to do aquatic plant surveys and testing for water quality. They will also again
treat two ponds with barley straw and do a fish survey and capture in the ponds as
there are too many fish present for effective treatment.
Daniels asked when the beach at Round Lake will reopen. Stovring said it should be
open this summer. We will conduct regular sampling tests and will close it again if
the tests results are undesirable for swimming.
E. Recyclins! Report— Status Report
Stovring distributed copies of the Community Residential Recycling report for 2006
prepared by Re-TRAC. She noted our numbers had dipped in the previous year but
recovered for 2006. Chacko asked if there are comparisons with other cities.
Stovring said there are some comparisons in the report. Chacko asked the
commissioners to read the report and suggested that we use the information provided
for future discussion or action on recycling issues.
V. REPORTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS
A. HF375— Global Warming Mitigation Act of 2007
Daniels said he received an email announcement about a meeting on March 15 from
6:30 to 8:45 PM at Christ Lutheran Church in St. Paul. He said Maria Ruud, House
Representative from District 42A, is sponsoring the legislation and will be speaking
at the meeting. The meeting is sponsored by two groups, the Minnesota Interfaith
Power& Light Spring Event and the Congregations Caring for Creation.
Daniels said the bill sets goals for carbon dioxide reduction from burning fossil fuels.
It calls for a 15% reduction below 2005 levels by 2015 with increasing percentages
of reduction in future years. He said it calls on the state to estimate the volume of
greenhouse gases and make projections into the future.
Daniels said the bill is currently in the Committee on Environment and Natural
Resources and will go back to the Energy Policy Division. He suggested
commissioners might want to write letters in support of the bill.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Prospect Road EAW—Review and compilation of comments
Chacko asked where we are in the process. Stovring replied the public comment
period opened yesterday and continues through April 11. She said we need to
develop any comments we give as a Commission before the next Planning
Commission review on April 9. The City Council will act on the EAW on May 1St
Chacko said he had received comments from Jan Mosman. Seymour said he will
have his comments by this Friday and Daniels said he will have them done by
Monday.
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Daniels asked if the City Council had voted to close Eden Prairie Road. Stovring said
it has been proposed and discussed but there has been no formal action to her
knowledge.
Daniels asked where the fill dirt for Prospect Road will come from. Stovring said it
will come from Hennepin Village. Daniels asked if that meant no dirt would be taken
from the area itself. Stovring said that was correct.
Daniels asked if there will be a "no-build" option. Stovring said that won't happen
because the road is too steep and needs to be rerouted. There are tight pins and steep
curves without adequate stopping distance at the bottom of the grade. Daniels asked
if they could extend the lower part. Stovring said the engineering firms say that can't
be done in the current alignment safely. She said there is no way we can redo the
existing corridor and must either reroute it or close it.
Seymour asked if we make a recommendation on the project. Stovring said we just
comment on it. The City Council will review the proposal and the comments and will
then select the best alternative based on the data provided.
Chacko said one of the main questions before the Conservation Commission is what
information is needed in the EAW for a fuller evaluation. He had compiled a matrix
that compared some key points of the various alternatives, and noted that Alternative
6 was approved in 2002 so that would explain why there appeared to be more data
about it. Stovring noted time constraints on the production of the EAW.. Alternative
6 is the smallest project in terms of project magnitude (item 7); other things equal, a
smaller project footprint is more desirable than a larger one.
He noted that the increases in impervious surface created by the alternatives are
similar, with the exception of alternative 2. Regarding the type of environmental
cover lost (item 10), .95 acres of brush and woodland are lost with Alternative 6
whereas the other alternatives result in significant losses of wooded forest, which
might be considered more valuable. Alternatives 1 and 3 cross known archeological
sites, according to the state archaeologist's letter. Alternatives 3, 4, and 5 create
barriers to migratory species, but the information does not address the magnitude of
the barriers nor how to mitigate the problem. Alternatives 3, 4, and 5 also cross areas
of high bio-diversity and there is an endangered plant species (rhombic petaled
evening primrose) within those areas, as cited in the DNR letter to Wenck
Associates. Relative to the other alternatives regarding water quality and runoff(item
17), alternative 6 appears to create substantially higher percentage increase in runoff
volume and phosphorus export. Stovring noted that if the numbers were expressed
in absolute terms, as opposed to percentages, the comparisons would look different.
Chacko said Jan Mosman mentioned the accident statistics appear to be higher at
other intersections. Stovring said a lot of accidents on Eden Prairie Road are not
reported due to the nature of incidents, such as sliding into the ditch. City snow
plows have tipped over on this road also. Jan Mosman said she thought we need to
verify the statistics given on accident levels and we should show the statistics in
comparison to other intersections.
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Daniels asked if the traffic flow on Eden Prairie Road and Flying Cloud Drive would
change once Hwy 312 is completed. Stovring said it will change some but not much
and it will probably build back up over time.
Chacko said Jan Mosman's comments also questioned what effect the polluted storm
water runoff would have. Jan Mosman said it appears that the Prospect Road
alternative has more direct water input to the creek. Stovring said that goes into an
infiltration area, not directly into the creek. She said the runoff from Prospect Road
would be just a small proportion of the volume going into the ponds as much of the
area is for surrounding development and Eden Prairie Road too.
A discussion followed regarding the impact on future development of the various
alternatives. Chacko noted Alternatives 1 and 2 could create more cumulative
impact, as cited in the EAW (item 29)
Seymour thought the point is to address what is given and not come up with
solutions. Chacko agreed. Lulu Mosman asked if our recommendations will have any
effect on the Council's decision. Seymour thought we need to make a case for our
recommendations and they would then be taken seriously.
Seymour asked what we need to do at this point. Stovring said we could have a
special meeting with just that one item on the Agenda later this month. Chacko was
concerned about drafting the recommendations in an open session. Seymour
suggested that Commissioners' comments be submitted to Chacko so he could
compile the comments into a draft for the Commission to review at the special
meeting. Stovring said we need to have an official vote on sending the letter and
recommendations to the Council.
The consensus was to have a special meeting on Tuesday, March 27, to prepare the
final recommendations. Stovring said comments from Commissioners should be
submitted within one week or we will assume there are no comments from that
individual. Krocak noted she will not be able to attend the meeting on the 27t'.
Chair Chacko recessed the meeting at 8:15 PM. Jan Mosman left the meeting at 8:15
PM.
Chacko reconvened the meeting at 8:20 PM.
B. Conservation Commission Work Plan for 2007 — City Council Approval
3/6/2007
Chacko said the Work Plan was approved by the City Council at their March 6
meeting as part of the Consent Calendar. He noted a Council Member said she would
prefer to see the Work Plan as a separate Agenda item in the future rather than a
Consent Calendar item. Stovring said the Council also thought every commission
should do some type of an annual work plan.
Chacko expressed his appreciation to Stovring for her work on the plan.
VII. NEW BUSINESS/DISCUSSION ITEMS
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A. Environmental Times—Springy Articles
MacMillan complimented Stovring on the nice job on the environmental newsletter.
Chacko especially liked the information on fluorescent disposal.
B. Shoreland Restoration/Raini!arden Construction Workshop Idea (Fortin
Consulting)
Stovring said we received an offer from Fortin Consulting to do a workshop this
summer. She said the cost would be approximately $600 for a half day or$1000 for a
full day. She thought the Commission might want to sponsor the workshop as a
spring or summer event.
Laura Jester asked if we had considered Blue Thumb at all because they have done
workshops in various areas and will provide the set up and materials as well as teach
homeowners how to build raingardens. Stovring said Fortin would gear the event
more to our needs and may be able to work that in. She said there would be a
workshop included in the full day event, with instruction only for the half day option.
Chacko asked what our role would be as a Commission. Stovring said we would
sponsor and promote the event. Chacko then asked about the venue. Stovring said it
could be held downstairs in the City Center or at the Staring Lake Outdoor Center.
Seymour asked if we have any precedent to anticipate how many would turn out for
it. Stovring said the former Environment Commission had a landscape seminar and
that was well attended.
Chacko asked about the timing. Stovring said it would probably be in May but she
will look into it and bring back a proposal.
C. Discussion of Carbon Dioxide
Daniels proposed that the Commission make a statement recognizing that carbon
dioxide from burning fuels is a pollutant and set a goal to make a measurable
reduction in the current levels by a minimum of 34% per year.
Chacko said 20-40-15 addresses this issue, and City Manager Neal has an assistant
available within the next month to begin work on the project. They plan to bring the
project results to the Commission with their recommendations. Stovring noted this is
scheduled for the July meeting.
Chacko asked how the U.S. Mayor's Agreement regarding global warming relates to
this since it has recommended guidelines in it. Stovring said most of what is in that
we are addressing with the 20-40-15 project. Daniels thought a statement of what the
problem is would be a good way for us as a Commission to encourage residents to
make reductions in emissions.
Chacko thought there are many groups that cross this area. He thought it was a
question of how to be most effective and it would be good to have a larger voice that
we join up to. Stovring thought we should get a handle on 20-40-15 before we start
something new.
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VIII. INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS/HANDOUTS/COMMUNICATIONS
A. Letter from Congressman Ramstad
Chacko said we received a letter from Congressman Ramstad commending the
Commission for the work in implementing "Project Green Fleet" for school buses.
Stovring said the letter was also recognized by Mayor Young at last week's City
Council meeting.
IX. UPCOMING EVENTS
A. March 20, 2007 — City Council Public Hearing for Prospect Road Alternative
EAW
B. March 24, 2007— Chamber of Commerce Yard & Garden Expo
Stovring said she was unable to find out how to get a booth so we will have to scope
it out for next year.
C. Living Green Expo — May 5-6, 2007 at the State Fairsrounds (Grandstand
Buildin
D. Friends of Birch Island Woods Buckthorn Workshop — Saturday, March 31St
Eden Woods Center
Stovring asked Commissioners to either attend or promote the Buckthorn Workshop
as they are hoping to get more of the community involved.
Daniels said Minnetonka is having an Eco Fair this Saturday, March 17. Stovring
said there are a lot of good speakers scheduled. The website for more information is
eminnetonka.com.
X. NEXT MEETING
Chacko noted the next meeting will be the Special Meeting on Tuesday, March 27 at 7:00
PM. The next regular meeting is Tuesday, April 10.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Krocak moved, seconded by MacMillan, to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 5-0. Chair Chacko adjourned the meeting at 8:50 PM.