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PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, MAY 1, 2006 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: John Brill, Chair; Geri Napuck, Vice Chair; Rob
Barrett(left at 8:20 p.m.), Tom Bierman, Lee
Elliott-S toering, Jeffrey Gerst, Randy Jacobus
(arrived at 7:05 p.m.), Ian Mackay, and Michael
Moriarity
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: None
COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Bob Lambert, Director of Parks and Recreation;
Stu Fox, Manager of Natural Resources;
Laurie Obiazor, Recreation Manager; and
Carol Pelzel, Recording Secretary
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Danny Crichton and Ali Neugebauer
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order by Chair Brill at 7:00 p.m.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Bierman asked that an item regarding acquisition of property at Riley Lake be added under
Reports of Staff. Brill asked that they also discuss conducting a tour of City properties some time
this spring.
Motion: Gerst moved, seconded by Elliott-Stoering, to approve the agenda as amended. The
motion carried, 8-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —April 3, 2006
Barrett pointed out that the last three sentences of the first paragraph on page 8 makes it sound
like this Commission is bound by action taken by the previous Commission and City Council in
1998 with regards to building a third hockey rink. A lot has changed since that approval.
Lambert explained that this Commission and City Council approved a third rink study in 1998. A
third rink was to be added to the Community Center with the City providing land and revenue
bonds. The Hockey Association would provide the balance of funds. Barrett said the statement
makes it appear as though this Commission approved the third rink. It is unfortunate that the City
Council again reviewed this item without this Commission reviewing it first.
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Napuck asked if this item was approved in 1998 why was it before the City Council again.
Lambert explained that they have been discussing this project since 2000. The original approval
is still standing and they could put a rink up as long as there are no tax dollars required. This
request went to the Council because the Hockey Association wanted to change the "deal".
Barrett said he feels they bypassed the public process and did not allow the residents to speak in
favor or in opposition to this project.
Barrett asked that the last sentences of the first paragraph on Page 8 read as follows: "In 1998 the
Parks Commission and City Council approved a third rink study that authorized construction of a
third rink at no cost to the taxpayers. The Hockey Association proposal was significantly
different in that they are requesting $1 million in tax dollars. Barrett does not necessarily feel
that actions of a 1998 Parks and Recreation Commission are binding to the 2006 Parks and
Recreation Commission. Barrett also feels this Commission should have reviewed the third rink
project. Barrett stated that approving $1 million of park fees without the Commission
recommendation concerns him."
Motion: Barrett moved, Napuck seconded, to approve the April 3, 2006, Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources Commission minutes as amended. The motion carried, 7-0-2 with Gerst and
Moriarity abstaining because of absence from that meeting.
IV. REPORT OF CITY COUNCIL ACTION—April 18, 2006
Lambert reported at their April 18 meeting, the City Council took the following action:
• Authorized Friendship Ventures to proceed with construction project at Eden Wood
Center(Glen Lake Children's Camp).
• Awarded bids for reconstruction of Homeward Hills Road and Staring Lake Park trails.
• Approved Parks and Recreation Commission recommendation on Red Rock Hills Park
and Red Rock Trail System.
• Approved the Community Center concept plan.
• Approved Edenvale and Forest Hills park concept plans.
V. REPORT OF PLANNING COMMISSION—April 10 and April 24
Fox reported that the Planning Commission did not meet on April 10 and at their April 24
meeting they approved a 12-unit town home development in the southeastern part of the City off
of Lee Drive north of Franlo Park. They also approved a two-story building for Gander
Mountain with underground parking on Technology Drive.
Bierman said this information is helpful and he appreciates hearing what the Planning
Commission has approved and its impact on green space. He asked if these projects would be
dedicating land for parks or improvements to open space. Fox responded that the City would be
receiving cash park fees from both of these projects.
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VI. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATION
VII. OLD BUSINESS
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
A. BIRCH ISLAND PARK
Lambert explained that staff is asking this Commission to recommend that staff initiate the
process for developing plans for improvements to Birch Island Park. The last time they
talked to the neighbors was in 1979 or 1980. Of the few neighbors that showed up at these
meetings, they agreed that there need be no improvements to the park until trails were
provided adjacent to both sides of County Road 4, for safe access to the park. Since that
time, the neighborhood has turned over and there are younger families living there and a
new subdivision was added. Lambert stated that now with the referendum approval and the
awarding of a contract for the design of a trail system on both sides of CR 4 up to
Crosstown, staff felt this would be a good time to make improvements to the park, should
the neighborhood want them. They will be cutting through the park to make a connection to
the trail and this process will help them determine where the trail should go. Staff feels this
is the time to make park improvements should the neighbors want improvements. Lambert
said staff would like to start the process by sending out notices to the adjacent neighbors.
Once they have a safe access to the park people will have the opportunity to provide staff
with their thoughts on what they think should happen in that park. Based on that input, a
concept plan will be drafted and staff will again meet with the neighbors. Once everyone
agrees on a plan, it will be presented to this Commission and will go through the normal
process.
Bierman asked what the timetable would be for the first neighborhood meeting. Lambert
responded that it would be within the next 60 days. In response to a question from Elliott-
Stoering, Lambert explained that the trail would be an eight-foot asphalt trail. Brill asked if
there is a beach on Birch Island Lake. Lambert answered that there is a beach within Camp
Eden Wood. The City does own it,but leases it out. This is not a public beach. The lake has
dropped seven or eight feet and Barr Engineering believes they have found why the level
has gone down. They feel it is related to the Crosstown construction and they think they
will be able to stop the water level from dropping and hope it will slowly come back up.
Napuck asked what the timetable would be with regard to getting the lake level back up.
Lambert said he believes there will be some cost involved and the City recommendation
was that Barr Engineering initiates action to complete the project and request that the
County pay for a majority of the repair. Staff has not received any further information on
this but Lambert said he would check to see where they are at.
Elliott-Stoering asked if there is a Committee that helps develop trail placement. Lambert
explained that the trail goes along the right-of-way so there are no decisions to be made
with regards to placement. The only decision to be made is where the trail will go through
the park. Staff does know the best alignment for the trail but if playground equipment, a
park shelter, etc. is to be added to the park, that may dictate where the trail goes in the park.
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Bierman asked if the meeting is a public meeting or just for the neighbors and he asked
how the general public is made aware of this meeting. Lambert responded that they publish
notice of this meeting through this agenda and notices are mailed out within a one-half mile
radius of the project. Brill asked where funding would come from should improvements be
made. Lambert answered that park dedication fees would be used.
Motion: M/Mackay, S/Jacobus, to recommend initiating the process for developing plans
for improvements to Birch Island Park. Bierman asked if they should tie in some kind of
time schedule as to when this process would be completed. He asked that the motion be
amended to read "Recommend initiating the process within 60 days for developing plans
for improvements to Birch Island Park with completion of the plans within 180 days."
Mackay and Jacobus accepted Bierman's suggestion as a friendly amendment to the
motion. The amended motion carried, 9-0.
B. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING LIMITED-USE PERMIT FOR NON-
MOTORIZED RECREATION TRAIL
Lambert reported that as part of the Staring Lake Outlet Project, the City has petitioned the
Riley Purgatory Bluff Creek Watershed District to construct a trail connecting the trail
around Staring Lake easterly along the north side of Purgatory Creek, then under Highway
212 to the sidewalk on the north end and west side of Sunnybrook Road. This trail
connection will allow residents living east of 212 with a direct trail access to the trail
around Staring Lake. Lambert stated that in order to construct a trail under Highway 212,
the Minnesota Department of Transportation requires a resolution from the City
authorizing a limited use permit for non-motorized recreational trail within their right-of-
way. Staff is asking that this Commission recommend to the City Council approval of this
resolution.
Motion: M/Gerst, S/Napuck, to recommend the City Council approve the resolution
authorizing limited use permit for non-motorized recreational trail. Bierman asked if they
need to add the title of the project to the Resolution. Lambert responded that the format
they used for this resolution is one they received from the Department of Transportation.
Bierman asked that staff review this further to determine if a title should be added. The
motion carried, 9-0.
C. ROUND LAKE BEACH OPERATION FOR 2007
Lambert explained that City staff is recommending that they consider reopening Round
Lake Beach in the summer of 2007. In order to do this, funds need to be budgeted for the
reopening. The total estimated costs for reopening the beach will be approximately $46,000
for the first year and approximately $35,000 per year in operational costs for future years.
Staff is asking that the Commission recommend reopening the beach in 2007 as per their
recommendation.
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Crichton asked that since Bryant Lake and Riley Lake beaches are already open, is it
necessary to have a third beach open in the City. He asked if there is a high demand for the
other two beaches. Lambert responded that when the City had a population of 20,000
people they would get 300 to 400 people per day at Round Lake Beach while Riley and
Bryant Lakes only had 50 to 60 people. Since the beach is there and the City has invested
millions of dollars in this park and the City made the statement that this is a temporary
closure, staff feels it is important that they reopen it when the water quality meets
standards.
Jacobus asked if it wouldn't make sense to see what the water quality is for this summer
before they decide to reopen the beach next year. Lambert explained that if the water
quality this year is not as good as last year they may decide to wait. It could be five years
or ten years before they reopen. Staff is following the City Council's direction to get
Round Lake Beach open as soon as possible. Lambert said that based on the consultant's
recommendation,he feels that they should be able to reopen next year. They will continue
to monitor the water but they need to put money into next year's budget so that funding is
available should they be able to reopen the beach. This does not mean they have to spend
the money. If there is no money budgeted, they would not have the option to reopen the
beach. Jacobus said he would not want to open the beach and then have to close it that
same summer. Lambert said if this Commission recommends that they wait and not open
the beach next year he will forward that recommendation to the Council.
Brill asked if there is any incentive to make Round Lake Beach more like Shady Oak
Beach creating more of an environment to bring people to the area other than just for the
lake. Lambert responded that eventually the City might decide to do something like that
and invest the money. If they have a track record of 10 to 15 years of good water quality
and it is only getting better it may make sense to add other things to this beach area. At this
point, it is too premature. Lambert said they also need to decide if this is too soon to reopen
the beach. They could wait longer for a more consistent pattern of water quality.
Mackay said he feels it is a good idea to reopen the beach and to add something to it to
create a fresh new image. He suggested they add something like barbecue pits, picnic
tables, etc. Lambert said they would be adding some colored umbrellas which would create
a more festive atmosphere and the proposed large floatables in the water. Mackay said if
the water quality goes away they can still make use of those things. Jacobus said if there is
any question in his mind regarding the water quality,he would not use this beach. They
need to educate the community that the water is good and he feels they need more than a
two-year track record. Lambert said the beach would be opened after three years of good
water quality, assuming 2006 is as good or better than the last two years.
Barrett said he wonders if waiting longer to open the beach wouldn't be more helpful. This
would allow them to distance themselves from the closing. They take the risk of having to
close the beach again and this could be devastating. Barrett said he feels if they wait it
would be less risky and it would be helpful for public perception.
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Moriarity suggested they monitor the water quality for this year and because of the
budgeting process they plan as if they will open the beach for 2007 with the message of
caution. Napuck said she feels they need to budget the money for 2007 giving them the
option of reopening the beach not only be based on water quality but also on the
completion of the storm pond work. Lambert said they may decide to wait longer but by
budgeting this money they have the flexibility of opening the beach next year. Without the
budgeted funds, they do not have the option to reopen in 2007. They are paying a
consultant to monitor the water again this year and this information will not be available
until after budget approval.
Bierman said to help with the public's perception, he would urge staff to be more
aggressive in goose management. They have to sell this beach to get the people to come
back and when people drive by and see the geese sitting there they will think there is a
problem with the water. Lambert explained that in May and June there is a small goose
population at Round Lake and they are removed by the end of June. Fox said that typically
they remove between 20 to 30 geese from Round Lake. The water quality is clarity of the
water, swim ability is the bacteria count. Fox said staff could put together a program about
what is going on at the beach and how they are monitoring the water quality to ensure safe
water. They could promote this as an informational piece. Bierman said they need a selling
campaign and the residents need to know that the lake can change within two days.
Barrett said he feels the problem they have to overcome is the people's feelings towards the
goose feces. He suggested that City staff write a letter to the editor explaining their goose
management program and explain what they will be doing to improve the water clarity and
explain water quality.
Neugebauer explained that she was a lifeguard at Round Lake in 2003 and no one came to
use the beach. If this Commission feels that the water is clean enough to open the beach,
they should be the first to use it. Residents need to see other people use it first.
Napuck said she is not opposed to the idea of allocating money to the opening of the beach
with the option to review whether or not it should be opened at a later date. If tests come
back that show that the water is not safe the decision to not open would be easier. If they
can open the beach they will then need to decide how they will make residents feel it is a
great lake. By budgeting funds, they are giving themselves the option to open the beach.
Motion: M/Moriarity, S/Bierman, to approve the staff recommendation to reopen Round
Lake Beach in the summer of 2007 as per the staff recommendation concerning hours and
budget assuming continued improvement of water quality and other factors to be reviewed
by this Commission and City Council at the end of 2006. The motion carried, 8-0.
(Barrett had left the meeting during discussion of this item.)
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IX. REPORTS OF STAFF
A. DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION SERVICES
1. Community Gardens
Lambert explained that information concerning the City's community gardens had
been included in their agenda material for information only.
2. Riley Lake Property
Lambert explained that the City Council decided not to purchase the property located
on Riley Lake. The property owner has put the property on the market. Staff did
discuss trading other park land for this parcel but that did not work out.
3. Tour of the City
Lambert said they would schedule a tour of the various projects in the City some time
this summer. The Commission agreed that rather than have a July meeting they would
take a tour of the various City projects and facilities on July 10 starting at 6:00 p.m.
B. MANAGER OF RECREATION SERVICES
1. Service Area Report—Nicole Weedman—Youth & Family Programs
Weedman presented an overview of Youth and Family Programs in the Parks and
Recreation Department. Programs are provided for preschool, youth, teen, adult and
family. In 2005, 13,163 people took advantage of the outdoor skating rinks and Staring
Lake sledding hill. There were over 100 programs, events, camps or lessons offered in
2005 and 4,005 participants attended a class, camp, trip or program. Seventy-five
summer seasonal staff were hired and trained for these programs. Weedman introduced
Teresa Dahlman who has been an intern in the Parks Department since February and
will be coming on staff this summer.
2. Survey of Ice Arena Rates
Staff provided the Commission with a survey of ice arena rates in surrounding
communities. Lambert explained that this survey shows Eden Prairie's pricing not at
the top,but not at the bottom either. Eden Prairie is fairly competitive with the
surrounding cities.
3. Kite Fest
Kite Fest will be held at Purgatory Creek Recreation Area on Saturday, May 6, from
1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
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4. Riley-Jacques Twilight Special
Rile-Jacques Barn "Twilight Special" will be held Saturday, May 20, from 7 — 9 p.m.
and will include a barn dance.
5. Springy Fun Run
The Eden Prairie Spring Run for Fun will be on Saturday, May 20, at 9 a.m. at
Purgatory Creek Recreation Area.
6. May Calendar of Parks and Recreation Events
A calendar showing Parks and Recreation events for the month of May was included in
the Commission's agenda material.
C. MANAGER OF PARKS AND NATURAL RESOURCES
1. Arbor Day
Lambert reported that the City has been designated as a Tree City USA. Fox explained
that this is a national recognition by the National Arbor Day Foundation. In order to
qualify for this designation, the City has to have a comprehensive forestry program, a
recognized Board that oversees forestry and natural resources and spends $2 per capita
on a forestry program. The City also has to hold an event such as the Arbor Day Walk.
IX. OTHER
Elliott-S toering said she had attended the town meeting in April and at that meeting a speaker
brought up a concern of safety with regard to Homeward Hills' trail. Lambert explained that the
concern was with regard to the widening of trails to 8 feet. The speaker had some concerns with
the placement of the trail. Approximately 500 to 600 feet of a section of Homeward Hills Road
has solid board fences and shrubs planted on the right-of-way. Staff will have to determine
where the trail is going to be placed taking into consideration the fence and plantings. The fence
blocks the intersection and corner views. City staff will be meeting to determine whether or not
the fence has to be removed. They do need to move the trail as far back as possible. There will
have to be some changes to what was originally presented.
X. NEXT MEETING
The next meeting of the Commission is scheduled for Monday, June 5 at 7:00 p.m.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Jacobus moved, Bierman seconded, to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried 8-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 p.m.