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PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2006 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Council Chamber
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Rob Barrett, Tom Bierman, John Brill, Jeffrey Gerst
and Geri Napuck
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Randy Jacobus, Ian Mackay and Michael Moriarity
COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Bob Lambert, Director of Parks and Recreation
Services; Stu Fox, Manager of Natural Resources;
Laurie Obiazor, Recreation Manager; and Carol
Pelzel, Recording Secretary
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Danny Crichton, Graham Kist, Ali Neugebauer
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order by Chair Barrett at 7:00 p.m. Jacobus, Mackay and Moriarity
had excused absences.
V. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Motion: Gerst moved, seconded by Brill, to approve the agenda as presented. The motion
carried, 5-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —January 9, 2006
Motion: Brill moved, Barrett seconded, to approve the January 9, 2006, Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources Commission minutes as presented. The motion carried, 3-0-2 with Bierman
and Gerst abstaining because of absence from that meeting.
IV. REPORT OF CITY COUNCIL ACTION—January 17, 2006
Lambert reported that at the January 17 Council meeting the Council approved the contract for
services for a feasibility study for expansion of the Community Center wading pool; approved
the first reading of the "Doyle" Addition, which included a preliminary plat of 12.1 acres;
approved Bryant Lake Ski Team request for a submersible slalom course subject to conditions
imposed by the Hennepin County Water Patrol and that the Parks Commission hold a public
hearing at the end of 2006 to hear any complaints prior to renewing the permit for 2007;
authorized negotiations for the acquisition of the Picha property and authorized City staff to
determine the lowest possible cost for acquisition of either the Shuldheiss property or the
Jackson property on Riley Lake and to review the Capital Improvement Plan to determine what
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funding sources are available; and, authorized planning for the relocation of the baseball field at
Round Lake Park and to include lighting the ball field in that relocation plan.
Barrett asked if the Three Rivers Park District has yet approved the submersible slalom course
on Bryant Lake. Lambert said they have not yet taken action on this request and were waiting for
a report from the City. Lambert said he would let the Commission know what the Park District's
action on this item was once he finds out.
Barrett recommended that the Commission tour the various park facilities throughout the City.
He feels this is very helpful and would like the student representatives to be able to also attend
this tour before their term on the Commission is up. He suggested that they do a tour some time
in April. Lambert said this would depend on what is on the Commission's agenda and what
projects they have taking place. May 1 may be a more appropriate time for a tour. The best time
to go out would be towards the end of the summer. There will be a lot of projects under way or
even completed at that time.
V. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATION
A. CONTRACT FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES
Lambert reported that a contract for the Community Center Expansion with Delano Erickson
Architects was included in the Commission's agenda material. This item will be considered
by the City Council on February 7. Also, at the last City Council meeting Councilmember
Case requested City staff to evaluate the feasibility of a third ice rink. Lambert explained that
the Hockey Association is making an effort to raise some funds for this third rink. They had
previously talked about a covered outdoor rink for a cost of approximately $2 million. If the
Hockey Association were to rent 900 plus hours and pay for 80 or 85 percent of the prime
time ice, approximately $1 million of revenue would be generated and could be used for the
payment of revenue bonds. However, the Hockey Association would still be required to raise
$1 million. The covered rink is now estimated to cost$2.5 million while an enclosed rink
would cost approximately $3 million. Lambert said that if the Hockey Association can raise
$1 million, the City could possibly match that amount with lease revenue bonds. Staff will be
presenting a report to the City Council and the Hockey Association has asked to give a
presentation to the City Council.
Barrett asked what the 20-year prediction is for the number of children in Eden Prairie.
Lambert responded that the number of children in the City peaked approximately three or
four years ago. There are 3,600 kids in the High School and that drops down slowly to 3,200
and stays at that number. There are approximately 700 kids coming into kindergarten and
approximately 800 kids that will be leaving the High School.
Bierman asked if the City ever does an RFP for architectural services. Lambert responded
that generally they do an RFP and that dictates what they want and becomes part of the
contract. They did not send this RFP to anyone else but Erickson Architects. In most cases
they do send the RFP out to other firms and generally get two or three proposals returned.
Bierman questioned the hourly rate stated in the contract. Lambert explained that Erickson
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estimates the total number of hours it will take to do a specific task and then adds a not to
exceed total amount. Bierman recommended that the contract show the total hours and that
they eliminate the hourly estimate. Lambert said he would prefer to leave the contract as it
now reads.
Lambert stated that staff is asking for approval of the first phase of the project. There are a
number of unknowns at this time and that is why they are recommending that the contract be
done in phases.
Motion: Gerst moved, seconded by Bierman, to recommend the approval of the Phase I
portion of the proposal from Delano Erickson Architects for a cost not to exceed $90,000.
The motion carried, 5-0.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. LAND ACQUISITION UPDATE
Lambert explained that there is no formal action required for this item but he wanted to let
the Commission know where staff is at with the acquisition of the Picha property and the
Jackson property on Riley Lake. Even though Picha indicated that they would sell their
property for$830,00, staff felt it was necessary to do due diligence. They did meet with the
City Assessor to review the latest appraisal and to provide a cursory update on land sales in
that area. They also met with the City Engineering staff to determine the estimated costs for
extending public utilities to the site and road improvements on Birch Island Road. Lambert
further explained that the City Planning staff reviewed the site to determine the likely
development approvals that could be anticipated for that property if it were sold today.
Lambert indicated that it is reasonable to assume that a developer would pay $830,000 for
this property and it is a reasonable price. Staff has asked the City Attorney to draft a purchase
agreement for the $830,000 asking price.
Lambert reported that originally Councilmember Case indicated that he would not support
the acquisition of the property on Riley Lake. After having been on the lake,he saw the
conflicts with this property and now understands why it should be public property. Staff will
be talking to the owners of the property and feel that as long as they acquire one of the lots it
will remain as it is. Shuldheiss is willing to sell his property if he can have a life estate and is
willing to discuss a price. Staff will also be meeting with Jackson to discuss the acquisition
of his property and he is also willing to negotiate a purchase price.
B. PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER IMPROVEMENTS
Lambert stated that included in the Commission's agenda material was a copy of a memo
sent to various special interest groups and the public inviting them to provide input for the
development of the Community Center addition. These meetings will inform the major users
as to what the issues are and it will also help determine what programs are critical and should
remain open. Once a final program is developed the design will then be completed.
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C. THIRD RINK PROJECT
This item was discussed earlier in the evening under Item V.A.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
VII. REPORTS OF STAFF
A. DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION SERVICES
1. 2006 City Commission Process/Information
Lambert reported that there are five openings on the Parks Commission. Brill indicated
that he would like to continue serving on the Commission. Barrett said he also is
willing to continue serving on the Commission and has submitted his application for
appointment. Barrett asked that Lambert send an e-mail to the other Commission
members whose term is up to ask them to submit their applications for reappointment to
the Commission.
2.Summary of 2006 Projects by Funding Source
Lambert presented an updated listing of the projects projected between 2006 and 2010
sorted by funding sources. The projects listed in 2006 have been approved. Any
projects beyond that are estimates and those that are scheduled further out will more
than likely change. Lambert explained that these are rough estimates. Bierman
questioned what the parking lot maintenance project includes. Lambert responded that
this is an on-going project funded from the General Fund and is to seal coat and
maintain existing parking lots.
3. Updated Draft CIP
Lambert presented the updated draft Capital Improvement Plan explaining that this
document has been revised since the passage of the 2005 referendum. The only projects
approved are the 2006 projects with the projects scheduled for 2007 and beyond being
projected at this time.
Bierman questioned the Flying Cloud field expansion and where they are at with that.
Lambert explained that they have asked the FAA to release the restrictions on this site.
At this time, they cannot do any improvements with the field until the Northwest
Airlines lawsuit is settled. Bierman suggested that a letter be sent to Senator Coleman
asking that he look into this matter so that the City can move forward with expanding
these fields. Lambert suggested that the Commission talk to the Mayor and suggest that
she write a letter to Senator Coleman and Representative Ramstad regarding this
matter.
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Motion: Motion was made by Brill, seconded by Gerst, to request the City Council to
contact the City's U.S. Representative and Senators to seek approval to make the
improvements on Flying Cloud Fields that were agreed to with the Metropolitan
Airports Commission (MAC) in 2002. The motion carried, 5-0.
Frank Powell from the audience pointed out that even though these improvements were
agreed to by MAC,by increasing its visibility to the fact that this is a good deal, they
may be increasing the possibility of this agreement being restructured in the future and
becoming detrimental to the City. Lambert said he did not think this would happen.
MAC and the City of Eden Prairie have a signed document subject to the FAA's
approval. Powell said the publicity could potentially harm the opportunity to use this
land. Lambert explained that the use of this land is an on-going deal and can be
terminated with a 90-day notice.
B. MANAGER OF RECREATION SERVICES
C. MANAGER OF PARKS AND NATURAL RESOURCES
1. Update on Staring Lake Doi Park
Fox reported that the dog park is scheduled to open up this spring. They do need to
make people aware of the fact that this is a dual-purpose area. It will be used as a cross-
country ski area during the winter and an off-leash dog park during the summer
months. If the weather permits, the park may even open in March.
Bierman asked if the City has any authority to use Anderson Lake Parks as a dog park.
Lambert responded that the Three-Rivers Park District owns this park and he did not
think they would take any land from the park reserve for this use.
2. Park Sisn Project
Lambert reported that the City Manager has decided that one color will be used for all
of the proposed signs and that color would be the darker green color.
Barrett asked for a report on the usage of the Riley Lake Barn. Lambert explained that
it is closed during the winter months and they have had good usage in the fall.
Barrett asked if there have been any issues raised with the cross-country ski team. Fox
responded that races have been cancelled due to the lack of snow. Most of the activities
are taking place at other locations that are making snow.
VIII. NEXT MEETING
The next meeting of the Commission is scheduled for Monday, March 6 at 7:00 p.m.
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IX. ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Napuck moved, Bierman seconded, to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried 5-0
The meeting was adjourned at 8:10 p.m.