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EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
TUESDAY,AUGUST 7, 2007 5:00 PM, CITY CENTER
Council Chamber
8080 Mitchell Road
CITY COUNCIL: Mayor Phil Young, Council Members Brad Aho, Sherry Butcher, Jon
Duckstad and Kathy Nelson
CITY STAFF: City Manager Scott Neal, Parks & Recreation Director Jay Lotthammer, Public
Works Director Eugene Dietz, City Planner Michael Franzen, Community Development Director
Janet Jeremiah, City Attorney Ric Rosow and Council Recorder Jan Curielli
I. ROLL CALL/CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
Mayor Young called the meeting to order at 5:03 p.m. He said the Council meeting time
was moved up from 7:00 PM to 5:00 PM so Councilmembers could participate in the
events and gatherings for National Night Out.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III. COUNCIL FORUM INVITATION
IV. PROCLAMATIONS /PRESENTATIONS
V. APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS
MOTION: Aho moved, seconded by Duckstad, to approve the agenda as published.
Motion carried 5-0.
VI. MINUTES
A. COUNCIL WORKSHOP HELD TUESDAY,JULY 17, 2007
MOTION: Duckstad moved, seconded by Aho, to approve the minutes of the
Council Workshop held Tuesday, July 17, 2007, as published. Motion carried 5-0.
B. CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD TUESDAY,JULY 17, 2007
MOTION: Duckstad moved, seconded by Aho, to approve the minutes of the City
Council Meeting held Tuesday, July 17, 2007, as published. Motion carried 5-0.
VII. REPORTS OF ADVISORY BOARDS & COMMISSIONS
A. REVIEW OF SECURITY AT FLYING CLOUD AIRPORT
Neal introduced Rick King, Chairman of the Flying Cloud Advisory Commission,
who will give a report evaluating the current security at the Flying Cloud Airport.
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Mr. King said Councilmember Nelson asked questions about security at the airport
in their February Workshop meeting with the Council. At that meeting the Council
directed the Commission to review and make recommendations regarding the
existing security at the airport. The Commission has completed their review and he
will give a brief verbal update tonight to go along with the written report provided.
King said they began working with former U.S. Attorney Tom Heffelfinger who
had brought up a question at a Town Hall meeting. King and City staff met with
him and went through his background information on security as a starting point.
He said they met with Metropolitan Airport Commission (MAC) representatives,
Fire and Police Department representatives, the Transportation Security Agency
(TSA) and the Department of Homeland Security. They then called a special
meeting of the Commission on May 31 where they had representatives from TSA,
MAC, and the Fire and Police Chiefs in attendance. All of the representatives felt
that the airport was very secure and among the top of its type of airport, that is
general aviation, non-cargo and non-passenger.
King said the Commission asked each of the representatives at the meeting to go
through their analysis of the airport and make recommendations for improvement,
and those recommendations are included in tonight's report. They determined there
are always things that can be improved, for instance the Police Chief said there is
never enough lighting. They looked at the perimeter fences and lighting and all
kinds of security involved. Each of the representatives that came before the
Commission found the security to be adequate. In addition, they did a full tour of
the perimeter in a four-wheel vehicle and found the fences to be continuously
secure. King said all parties involved did a great job and the Commission is lucky
to have such dedicated people who came in and gave us their professional opinions.
King said the MAC's participation this year was outstanding. Tim Anderson,
Deputy Executive of MAC Operations, and Joe Harris, Manager of the Anoka and
Flying Cloud Airports, are at tonight's meeting and they are the ones who were
involved in the Commission meetings and made the reports. MAC replaced or
added a total of 250 signs at the airport, something they were not asked to do. King
toured the signage improvements and he thought it is looking much better. They
also took the lighting comment by the Police Chief to heart and signed a contract
with Excel to put in 16 new high-intensity lights in high-traffic areas and to
upgrade all existing fixtures to high-intensity lights. The Commission is really
pleased with that and he wanted to recognize Mr. Anderson for MAC's work to
make the airport even safer.
King said the report contains 11 recommendations, some of which are already
completed. He noted one of the recommendations is that the Flying Cloud Advisory
Commission should reassess the security every year.
Nelson thanked the Commission and the MAC for this work. She thought it is
important to keep up with everything. She was very glad to see we are doing those
things that will keep the airport secure and the neighbors living around the airport
safe. Young agreed with Nelson and was appreciative of the MAC's cooperation.
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Neal said he forgot to add Item XIV.B. regarding a green roof at the Community Center.
MOTION: Duckstad moved, seconded by Butcher, to approve the amendment to the
agenda. Motion carried 5-0.
VIII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. CLERK'S LICENSE LIST
B. APPROVE UTILITY MAPPING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH HTPO,
INC., I.C. 07-5703
C. ADOPT RESOLUTION 2007-83 AWARDING CONTRACT FOR PIONEER
TRAIL STORM SEWER IMPROVEMENTS TO KUSSKE
CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, I.C. 07-5701
D. APPROVE "CONSENT TO REPLACE WETLAND"AND OTHER
DOCUMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH WETLAND IMPACTS AND
MITIGATION ON THE VALLEY VIEW ROAD RECONSTRUCTION
PROJECT, I.C. 02-5586
E. APPROVE RIGHT OF ENTRY AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS
FOR TECHNOLOGY DRIVE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, I.C.
075691
F. APPROVE AGREEMENT WITH SRF FOR COMPLETION OF
FEASIBILITY STUDIES FOR STABILIZATION AND RESTORATION OF
FOUR EROSION SITES WITHIN THE LOWER MINNESOTA RIVER
WATERSHED DISTRICT, I.C. 07-5698
G. APPROVE AGREEMENT WITH HTPO INC. AND PRAIRIE
RESTORATIONS FOR COMPLETION OF WETLAND MITIGATION
REQUIREMENTS FOR CITY-OWNED OUTLOT IN PONDS EDGE
DEVELOPMENT, I.C.
H. AWARD CONTRACT TO IMPERIAL DEVELOPERS FOR
CONSTRUCTION OF COUNTY ROAD 4 BIKE TRAIL
I. ADOPT RESOLUTION 2007-84 AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF THE
HENNEPIN COUNTY JUSTICE INTEGRATION SUBSCRIBER
AGREEMENT
J. APPROVE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENTS WITH
ADVANCED ENGINEERS AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES (AE2S)TO
PERFORM 2-YEAR DIGITAL DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM MODEL OF THE
EDEN PRAIRIE WATER SYSTEM
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K. AWARD CONTRACTS FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER INTERIOR
ARCHITECTURAL WOODWORK AND THE SPORTS/WOOD FLOOR
L. APPROVE ASSIGNMENT OF CONTRACTS FOR COMMUNITY
CENTER CONSTRUCTION TO RJM CONSTRUCTION
M. APPROVE CONSENT OF ASSIGNMENT OF CONTRACT WITH
HENNEPIN COUNTY, SCHOOL DISTRICT 272 AND CITY OF EDEN
PRAIRIE RELATING TO ELECTION EQUIPMENT
MOTION: Butcher moved, seconded by Duckstad, to approve Items A-M of the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
IX. PUBLIC HEARINGS /MEETINGS
A. VACATION OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY EASEMENT OVER PART
OF CANTERBURY LANE, VACATION 07-05 (Resolution 2007-85)
Neal said official notice of this public hearing was published in the July 19, 2007,
Eden Prairie Sun Current and sent to five property owners. The property owner has
requested the vacation of a part of the public right-of-way easement adjacent to her
property. The public right-of-way easement was originally dedicated to allow the
building of a cul-de-sac and the cul-de-sac will not be built. The property owner
has maintained the portion of the easement to be vacated as part of her yard. The
vacation will not result in conflicts with installed utilities.
There were no comments from the audience.
MOTION: Butcher moved, seconded by Duckstad, to close the Public Hearing
and to adopt Resolution 2007-85 vacating the public right-of-way easement over
part of Canterbury Lane. Motion carried 5-0.
X. PAYMENT OF CLAIMS
Nelson asked what Item 165824 for$59,629 was for and was it taken out of Parks Funds
or General Funds. She thought it was a very high lighting bill for a dog park and she
wanted more information on the item. Neal said Staff will research the item and will let all
of the Councilmembers know. Young asked if it was a claim that needs to be paid. Neal
said it is most likely a claim that has already been paid,but if there is an issue with it we
can discuss it with Excel.
MOTION: Aho moved, seconded by Duckstad, to approve the Payment of Claims as
submitted. The motion was approved on a roll call vote, with Aho, Butcher, Duckstad,
Nelson and Young voting "aye."
XI. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
XII. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
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XIII. APPOINTMENTS
XIV. REPORTS
A. REPORTS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS
B. REPORT OF CITY MANAGER
1. Budget Advisory Commission Process Update
Neal said the Budget Advisory Commission (BAC) has been meeting in
May, June and July in deliberation and hearing proposals from City staff.
Staff has finished their presentations to the BAC, and on Thursday night at
5:00 PM the BAC will make a presentation back to staff and others
attending the meeting about their recommendations on the Version II 2008-
2009 budget. Those recommendations, staff comments and staff
recommendations will be provided to Councilmembers in advance of the
August 21sr City Council meeting.
2. Green Roof at Community Center
Neal said when we began the design of the improvement projects at the
Community Center we hoped to add a green element to the project. There is
new construction on one part of the Community Center where we could add
a green roof. Staff received a proposal for the green roof when the project
was bid,but the cost of$140,000 was deemed too high. The contractor
recently came back and gave a revised bid for the green roof of$84,870.
Neal said there is a model of the product sitting in the hallway outside the
Council Chambers that shows the actual plant material used to form the
basis of the green roof. Because the green roof element of the project was
rejected initially, we did not expect this to come back in this format. Staff
has had some discussion and when we looked at it originally we planned to
take some of the funds needed to finance it from the Storm Water Fund.
This revised bid would need to be added as a contract amendment to the
contract. Since it is significant enough and also a change of scope, staff
brought it back to the Council for authorization.
Lotthammer said the material provided in the information packet indicates
some of the benefits of the green roof. The green roof will be visible from a
portion of the windows in the meeting rooms at the Community Center. It
would be a membrane-type of roof with interlocking trays for the plants on
top of it that would add protection to the roof. It would help with heating
and cooling costs as well as having a big impact on the amount of runoff
from the roof. There are environmental benefits that are difficult to put a
cost savings to,but it does improve the aesthetics and gives it more of a
natural feel.
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Young asked about the justification for using the Storm Water Fund. Neal
said he recalled it had storm water benefits to it, it was something we saw as
a demonstration project, and we wanted to encourage more of this type of
demonstration project in the community. Dietz said that was true and he
thought the biggest issue we are now facing from the MPCA is we need to
have a zero runoff rate from the community. Both the quality and quantity
of water is limited by our permits. We need to get experience on our own on
this so we can learn what works and doesn't work. We may look at some of
the benefits on future retrofits of other City structures. Trying to minimize
or eliminate water runoff is what this is all about.
Young asked about the balance in the storm water fund. Dietz said it is
$1.2-1.3 million. Young asked if that was all tied to specific projects. Dietz
said we have a list of projects that goes out into the future,but this is a good
demonstration project and we need experience in this kind of project in
order to manage it with developers and builders in the future.
Butcher thought it was a good idea to start to incorporate this kind of green
in Eden Prairie. She asked how this would perform over our cold winters
and what kind of maintenance we will have in the spring because of our
extremes in temperature. Dietz replied this project is only 6-8,000 square
feet. The Conservation Commission has requested that we study these kinds
of things. Butcher thought we must have some data on the vegetation type
and how it performs. Dietz said that is discussed in the packet information;
however, no one on our staff has personal experience with this. It would be
a small project but highly visible. We will probably be asking others to do
this at some point, so we should be leaders instead of followers.
Duckstad asked whether adding this so late in the process would cause any
extra costs to any other part of the building already being built. Lotthammer
said the originally accepted part of the project was a built-up roof and the
roofing company is only a couple of weeks away from starting, so we need
to decide on this soon. There are no additional costs that would occur from
this other than what is being proposed tonight. We have a guarantee of one
year on all the plants, and they would need to start them as soon as possible
so they could grow before winter. The type of plants used is hardy in this
climate and will grow dormant in the winter. The plants will absorb heat, so
the cooling costs will be less and the green roof acts as an insulator in the
winter. There are no actual cost analyses available on lowering of heating
and cooling costs,but there would be a reduction in the roof top
temperatures so they should be lower.
Aho thought he understood some of the benefits but was concerned about
the initial cost differential between the two roof types. Lotthammer said the
additional cost for the green roof is $85,000, and they are motivated to use
this as a demonstration project. Aho then asked what the long-term
maintenance costs of this would be versus a built-up roof system.
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Lotthammer said they are saying it is similar to a built-up roof,but there is
not a long history since not many of these have been around for a long time.
Aho said typically we do not want water to stand on any roof,but in this
case it is the opposite because you want water to stay there for the plants.
Water weighs about eight pounds per gallon and that adds a significant
weight load along with the weight of the soil and plants. He asked how
much additional work would be required to support the increased load.
Lotthammer said the intent is that the baskets or trays are to be water proof.
This portion of the building was anticipated for the potential of a second
floor and there is quite a bit of load-bearing capacity already built in, so the
architect has no concerns about the load bearing issue. Aho asked if that
meant there is no need for re-engineering of the completed construction.
Lotthammer said that was true.
Nelson asked if there are any costs we will incur by going with a different
kind of roof. Lotthammer said this is the same contractor who is scheduled
to do the built-up roof, and the only difference is the $85,000 they have
calculated for building the green roof.
Nelson asked who is going to do the long-term maintenance of the plants
and will they inspect it or do we have to have someone knowledgeable to
inspect it. Lotthammer said this is a local company and we have some
advantage in their wanting this to be a demonstration project. After the first
year we would be responsible for doing low-level maintenance and upkeep.
The plants are in interlocking trays, so a tray could be removed and replaced
if the plants died.
Nelson asked if the green roof would preclude us from ever building a
second floor on the Community Center. Lotthammer said one of the
architects of the original building said that down the way it is a lot easier to
replace a membrane and green roof if you want to add on. Nelson then
asked if it would be possible to have a green roof on the second story if it is
built. Lotthammer thought you would build it that way if that was the intent,
and the interlocking trays could then be reused on the second story.
Nelson said she liked the idea of this green roof. If we are going to ask other
builders to do this, we should try it out. It is another way to do energy
saving here in Eden Prairie.
Duckstad said he has some concern when he listens to the comments about
this type of roof being in its infancy and therefore not having a track record
to determine if it is an energy saving feature or if it will eventually result in
some problems or extra maintenance. Dietz said he would have some
serious concerns about spending that kind of money if we were planning to
replace an entire roof system with this,but this is a very limited project. The
Conservation Commission has heard speakers on this topic and these roofs
have been built in Europe for many years and also in the Chicago area. The
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brochure talks about the difference in temperature and water retention on
green roofs. This project offers us an opportunity to decide if we are going
to push builders and developers to do this and provides us with some
experience for a relatively small investment.
Young said he was not thrilled with this project and thought we were happy
with the built-up roof before. He believes $85,000 is a lot of money for the
change order and we are in the middle of our budget discussions. He
understood the funds would come from a designated fund,but at this time
we aren't looking for new ways to spend money so this isn't something that
he supports.
Duckstad said he agreed with Mayor Young to the extent that this type of
addition falls into the area of something we may want but not something we
need. He would vote against this because of budget issues.
Nelson believed we have to take a long-term look at budgeting. If it saves
money over the long term by reducing energy costs, we are saving money.
Young said he would be more comfortable if there were other cities in
Minnesota that had built these so we could quantify savings instead of
projecting them. He would be happy to follow someone else's lead and
learn from their experience.
Aho asked about the total square footage of this section of the roof. Dietz
said it is about 6350 square feet. Aho said he thought the payback or return
on investment for the $85,000 cost would come through the reduced energy
costs of about$6,000 per year,but there would also be increased
maintenance costs. He thought it would be a very long time before you
could recover the total amount invested. Because of the extended period of
time to receive a return on the investment and the increased maintenance
costs for the project,he did not think he would support it.
Butcher thought we made a commitment to go down the path of being a
green city, and we already have been making changes to our energy
consumption. She saw this as one more step in that commitment. Because it
is a really small area, she thought it would be worth the risk involved to
continue with our commitment to be a green city.
Neal said he didn't have anything to add except that we regret the timing of
this. This project is one of the decisions that have some policy implications
and a price tag, so that is why this was brought to the Council. If there is no
action or a negative action tonight, it won't happen. If there is a positive
action, staff would prepare the change order.
Young said it is worthy of study and we have made some commitments as
Ms Butcher pointed out but he thought it comes down to a matter of dollars.
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C. REPORT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
1. Dunn Bros./Smith-Douglas-More Property
Jeremiah said Staff is looking for direction with regard to exploring
potential options for the Smith-Douglas-More house. We are currently at a
stage where the five-year lease with Dunn Bros. is due to expire this year.
The Dunn Bros.' franchisee, Puregrace LLC, is interested in revisiting the
lease and has expressed some interest in buying the property. Staff has not
looked at the details of that and is not asking for a decision. If the options
are to be explored, the next step would be an appraisal of the property and
further discussions regarding the kind of offer and financing. Staff is
looking for Council direction regarding whether we should continue
discussions on sale versus lease or should we just bring back the lease
option.
Jeremiah said there is zoning in place that would retain the historic
designation of the property regardless of ownership. The report mentions no
consideration of removing the historical designation. The purchaser is
aware of the zoning restrictions and the historic nature of the property as
well as the need to go through the process of site plan review for any
modifications to the property. The historic nature is part of the reason for
Puregrace's interest because they like the unique aspects of the property.
Young said Mr. Lindahl brought this to his attention a couple of times and
he was aware there are some sensitive issues that were not put in the report.
He thought the City Council should be presented with both alternatives, and
his expectation is that the historic designation would remain intact if it is
sold.
Butcher said we have considered this property and the business on it to be a
win-win situation for the City over the past five years. One of the reasons
for that is because it is such a community center and serves the entire
community in that capacity. Before we made the decision to rehabilitate the
property and have it become a Dunn Bros., there were a lot of parents and
youth who came to us to see if there was something we could do as a City to
create a gathering place for our teenage youth. Once the Dunn Bros.
property on one of our historic sites came to fruition, it became clear this
served a wonderful function in our community as a gathering place for our
youth. She would like to do whatever we can to keep Dunn Bros. at this
location and to maintain public access to the building. She didn't think it
was a bad thing to look at the multiple perspectives on the situation,but she
thought it would not be preferable for the City to sell the property if there
would be the possibility of no public access in the future. Even though the
lease may be lower in terms of annual value, it is a revenue stream that is
helpful to the City in paying for the costs of the building rehabilitation.
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Aho thought it is a wonderful facility, and whether we sell or lease it there
is no guarantee that it will remain a Dunn Bros. coffee house. That is up to
the market and the companies involved. In terms of the lease space it is
stated that it has an initial annual rent of$60,558, or$18 per square foot. He
asked if that is a net-net-net lease. Lindahl said it is a triple-net lease where
they pay all the expenses. Aho said he was not opposed to either a lease or
sale,but it would be good to get an appraisal of property and see if it is
feasible.
Duckstad said in light of the zoning regulations for heritage preservation he
had no objection to the City getting an appraisal and exploring the
possibility of selling the property. He thought we would be negligent if we
did not look at that aspect since we are here to conserve. He would be in
favor of the getting the appraisal and directing staff to look at the possibility
of selling the property.
Nelson said she could look at either option;however, she would prefer to
keep it as a lease property because it provides a long-term revenue stream.
If we sold the property, she would want to see proceeds go into the long-
term revenue stream as well. She very much likes having this facility open
to the public every day where people can come and go as they wish, and if
we can possibly keep it in that kind of situation the City is better off for
doing so.
Duckstad said in connection with the possibility of selling the property, he
would not be averse to continuing the decision to sell at a future date when
we could get a maximum price if the real estate market is soft at the present
time.
Young thought we did not know enough to make a decision tonight, and he
thought staff had the information they need in order to proceed.
D. REPORT OF PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
E. REPORT OF PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR
F. REPORT OF POLICE CHIEF
G. REPORT OF FIRE CHIEF
H. REPORT OF CITY ATTORNEY
XV. OTHER BUSINESS
Neal read the list of liaisons assigned to Councilmembers for their visits to the National
Night Out gatherings. He noted there will be a moment of silence at 6:05 PM tonight in
memory of the victims of the 35-W bridge collapse.
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Nelson said she understood some of our Police force was called in to help with the bridge
incident and we should thank them for their participation in that. She asked what part we
played. Neal said we had a small group of about 12 officers that went down on Thursday,
Friday and Saturday to do perimeter security. They had training scheduled for that time
and officers scheduled to come in, so they helped with the bridge security instead of
having the training.
Aho noted he went down to work at the American Red Cross building on Thursday to help
with the emergency. There were a lot of volunteers and food donations and it was good to
see the outpouring of help.
XVI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Aho moved, seconded by Duckstad, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried
5-0. Mayor Young adjourned the meeting at 6:04 p.m.