HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 11/27/2006 APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 2006 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
BOARD MEMBERS: Jon Duckstad, John Kirk, Vicki Koenig,
Jerry Pitzrick, Frank Powell, Peter Rocheford,
Fred Seymour, Ray Stoelting, Jon Stoltz
STAFF MEMBERS: Stu Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural Resources
Al Gray, City Engineer
Mike Franzen, City Planner
Julie Krull, Recording Secretary
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE—ROLL CALL
Chair Stoelting called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Absent: Koenig.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION by Seymour, seconded by Stoltz, to approve the agenda. Motion carried 8-0.
III. MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 13, 2006
MOTION by Seymour, seconded by Stoltz, to approve the minutes. Motion carried
6-0. Pitzrick and Rocheford abstained.
IV. PUBLIC MEETING
V. INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. WINDSOR PLAZA
Request for:
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Planned Unit Development Concept Review on 4.44 acres; Planned Unit
Development District Review with waivers on 4.44 acres; Zoning District Change
from Rural, Commercial Regional Service and Office to Commercial Regional
Service on 4.44 acres; Site Plan Review on 4.44 acres; Preliminary Plat of 5.81
acres into two lots and road right-of-way.
Jay Scott, of Solomon Real Estate Group,presented the proposal. Mr. Scott
stated he would like to highlight some of the recommendations listed in the staff
report. He pointed out his group will bring the final project to the December 11,
2006, Planning Commission meeting. He stated their project is a catalyst for the
Town Center design. Mr. Scott pointed out that this project is an assembly of 4
different parcels; 3 office buildings and Randy's Bobby & Steve's Auto World.
He stated this is a transitional piece of property and it needs to work well with the
mall but also has to be a transitional piece of property for the Town Center area.
Mr. Scott said in regards to the parking issue, their company has hired
independent consultants to address this issue. He stated they tried to cut out
unnecessary use of parking. They also studied the shared parking analysis, due to
restaurants, office and retail areas. They did not over park the project but
adequately designed it to accommodate the parking issue.
Dan Anderson, project designer, pointed out the window model presented this
evening was an example of color and texture of the proposed building. He stated
it would give a good prospective of what some of the building would resemble.
Mr. Anderson utilized the overhead projector to show products that would be used
in the design of the building. He pointed out the restaurants would also tie in with
the same design.
Stoelting asked Franzen to review the staff report. Franzen stated this staff report
is different than the traditional staff reports. Franzen stated they are more
concerned with the design of this project because it will be placed in the Town
Center area. He stated this project is about articulation of design. They want to
incorporate the "best of the best things" that were seen on their recent tour of
other cities. Franzen said they would also like the landscaping plans and final
building plans to come before the Planning Commission prior to them obtaining
their building permit. He stated the City would like to make sure what they
propose is exactly what they would like in the Town Center area.
Franzen stated he would like the project proponent to address the five issues in the
staff report and present their project to the December 11, 2006, Planning
Commission meeting.
Stoelting opened the meeting up for public input.
Gary Cook, of 8108 Eden Road, asked if Eden Road is going to go through from
Singletree Road to Regional Center Road. Gray said there would be a
transportation corridor going through the area, and it would be a 2-lane road.
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Pitzrick asked about the cream-color material on the building and asked if it was
drive-it material. Mr. Anderson stated it was drive-it material. Pitzrick stated he
felt the side of the building along Flying Cloud Road appeared to be only 3 feet
away from the trail. He felt this would be a problem with plowing in the winter.
Fox stated the trail along the road is similar to what is throughout the City. As far
as snow removal, the City would like to shift responsibility to the building
owners. Powell stated he felt the three foot barrier from the trail to the road is too
small. Franzen stated this issue could be addressed at the future meeting. He
stated maybe there is a possibility that the trail could be put somewhere else in the
project that would make it not so close to the road.
Pitzrick asked where the loading dock would be located. Brian Klutz, project
designer, commented the distance between the curb to the trail is actually 6 feet.
He then stated the loading dock would be under the parking ramp; which would
be in the basement level of the building. Pitzrick asked if they were looking to
achieve lead certification on this project. Mr. Klutz stated they did previously
make an attempt to achieve this in a prior list that was given to the City. Dan
Carson, lead civil engineer, described what a lead certification consists of. He
pointed out you receive points for using certain products, such as paint or recycled
water. The goal would be to incorporate a variety of elements into the site.
Pitzrick asked how much of this design would be carried forward to future
projects. Franzen stated not all of the buildings would look exactly the same; they
would only want certain elements in the designs of the buildings. He stated the
City would establish certain criteria and let the architects come up with their own
design.
Stoelting asked how the vehicles will flow through the site and where the parking
would be located. Dan Carson utilized the overhead projector and pointed out
where the entrances would be located. He said all parking would be located in the
parking garage. He said presently it is a three level garage but they could change
it to four levels if that is what the City would want. Mr. Carson also stated there
would be secured parking below the building. He said the trucks would be
utilizing the underground parking area for their deliveries. Mr. Carson also
utilized the overhead projector to show where the pedestrian walkways would be
located. He also said there would be multiple access points off the trail system.
Stoelting asked where the bus shelter would be located. Mr. Carson said they do
not have a bus shelter located on this project.
Seymour asked Staff about the traffic issues in the area. Gray stated this project
will produce increased traffic but they see no problem with this project creating
traffic problems.
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Powell asked if the current intersection of Singletree Road and 212 could possibly
become non-existent in the future. Gray stated as the intersection shifts that could
possibly be an outcome.
Stoltz asked if Staff was satisfied with the parking on the site. Franzen stated they
were satisfied with the parking on this site.
Stoltz stated he feels that a pedestrian level does need to be designed for this
project.
Pitzrick asked again if drive-it material is a durable type of material. Mr. Carson
stated this product has changed since years past and it is a very durable and
warranted material. He stated they are confident in this product.
Pitzrick addressed the sidewalk issue and stated that before this project is
approved they should make sure they have the right spacing between the trail and
the road. Franzen stated when the project proponent returns for the December
11, 2006 Planning Commission meeting, he should have two functional drawings
showing pedestrian walkways and traffic flows.
Stoelting reiterated the meeting on December 11, 2006, will allow the project
proponent more time to develop this project. Stoelting asked Mr. Scott if he had
any objectives to the continuance. Mr. Scott said he did not have any objectives
to the continuance. Franzen asked if the Commission Members would need a
model of this project or would a drawing be appropriate. Mr. Scott stated they
will have a computer model at the next meeting. He stated it might not be
detailed enough to show the pedestrian walkways. Kirk stated he wanted the
details to the sidewalks addressed in the motion.
Seymour pointed out in regards to asking architects to bring in models; if the
Commission asks one developer to do that, they need to ask all developers to
bring in models.
MOTION by Kirk, seconded by Stoltz, to recommend a continuance to the
December 11, 2006 meeting and to revise the development plans according to the
staff report and other requirements as identified by the Commission, including
detailed sections of the sidewalk area along Highway 212. Motion carried 8-0.
Pitzrick asked to amend the motion to address the issue of drive-it material. Kirk
amended the motion to add that there would be staff evaluation of the drive-it
material.
B. RANDY'S BOBBY & STEVE'S AUTO WORLD
Request for:
Planned Unit Development Concept Review on 1.08 acres; Planned Unit
Development District Review with waivers on 1.08 acres; Zoning District Change
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from Highway Commercial and Office to Commercial Regional Service on 1.08
acres; Site Plan Review on 1.08 acres.
Dan Anderson presented the proposal. He started out by requesting Franzen to
review the staff report. Franzen stated this project is similar to the first project
that was presented this evening. He also stated an issue that should be addressed
would by the traffic flow in and out of this property. Franzen stated they did their
own study to see if there was adequate room for vehicles to maneuver around the
gas pumps. They found they need more room in the north/south dimension to this
site. Stoelting asked Franzen how many additional feet that would amount to.
Franzen stated it would be 9 additional feet of horizontal space.
Stoelting opened the meeting up for public input. There was no input.
Pitzrick asked if the project proponent anticipates additional space for this project
in the future. Mr. Anderson stated that if the need would arise for additional
space in the future they would be willing to accommodate the change at that time.
Pitzrick stated he wanted the architects to be creative in their design of the gas
pump island area. Mr. Anderson stated they have no problem with creating a
pleasing architectural design to this project.
MOTION by Pitzrick, seconded by Kirk, to recommend a continuance to the
December 11, 2006 meeting and to revise the development plans according to the
staff report. Motion carried 8-0.
VII. GUIDE PLAN UPDATE
0 Introduction to Transportation
Monique Mackenzie and Marie Cote presented the Transportation Guide Plan Update.
Some of the Transportation Chapter Components are as follows:
1. Traffic forecasts.
2. Mapping.
3. Highway system issues and plans.
4. Bicycle and pedestrian transportation.
5. Transit systems.
Trends and Influenciniz Factors
1. Aging population.
2. Increasing congestion.
3. More expensive fuel and energy costs.
4. Better transportation alternatives.
5. Interest in active,healthy lifestyles.
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Roadway ystem Maintenance
Study will focus on how to accommodate existing growth in the area.
Some of the Focused Chanze Areas are as follows:
1. Land use changes.
2. Limits to expansion of road network.
3. Emphasis on walking facilities.
GTA Transportation Objectives
1. Reduce peak period traffic congestion.
2. Increase transit use.
MCA Transportation Objectives
1. Locate appropriate density at right locations.
2. Take advantage of the light rail transit system to support higher density
development.
Key Questions to be addressed reizarding the Transportation Study
1. Should the City dedicate transportation resources to updating existing roadways
or developing new roadways.
2. Should we have transportation improvements for non-motorized travel in Eden
Prairie.
3. Are there certain areas where transportation improvement areas should focus.
4. What funding sources should be considered.
Stoelting asked if the Commission should be focusing on the new roadway corridors or
existing roadways. Stoelting was also concerned about the feasibility of constructing
new roadways in Eden Prairie. Gray addressed these issues by stating in the last 15
years, Eden Prairie has done a lot of improvement to the roadways and it does anticipate
the possibility of developing some new corridors to handle the new growth and
construction of the City. He stated the City will be improving the corridors throughout
the City to handle new development. Gray pointed out the challenge would be financing
improvements to roadway corridors. He stated it would be a benefit to the City if it had
the Light Rail System. Gray pointed out the LRS would be a substantial corridor that
would connect Eden Prairie to other parts of the metro area.
Stoelting reiterated it is not really new corridors that are being addressed but rather the
Light Rail System and improving existing roadways.
Stoelting asked if there was any prioritization, in the concept of dollars, as to which
improvements would be considered first in line. Gray stated the City has been working
with MNDot to receive some funding for these projects and some of the first priorities
would be Anderson Lakes Parkway and Preserve Boulevard, and also Pioneer Trail and
the 169/494 interchange. He stated the City would need a considerable amount of money
to fund these projects. Gray also pointed out the Golden Triangle area would need a lot
of input/output access points.
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Kirk stated he strongly supports non-motorized travel both in the MCA and residential
areas of the city. He also stated the old Hwy 212 is a dilemma. He pointed out it is an
old road and also a dangerous road, however, it is an area where we are trying to preserve
the prairie bluff environment. Marie Cote stated they anticipate a lot of volume in the
future for the new Hwy 212; which would take traffic off of the old Hwy 212.
Pitzrick stated he would like to see pedestrian bridges set up in the Singletree/Hwy 212
area, and Singletree/Prairie Center Drive area for pedestrian traffic and to function as
landmark signage. Marie Cote stated some of these roadways would not be conducive
for pedestrian bridges due to the high level of traffic. She stated pedestrian transportation
is very important to the transportation study and they are looking at addressing all
options.
Powell asked if the development of the Community Center would increase traffic
congestion on Valley View Road. Randy Newton, City Graphic Engineer, stated the
improvements to the Community Center would not add congestion the Valley View
Road.
We need to look at the impact on the power line on the high density area of the MCA and
what options we have to remove the power line.
VIII. PLANNERS' REPORT
Franzen stated there will be 6 items scheduled for the December 11, 2006, meeting. This
will include:
1. Windsor Plaza
2. Randy's Bobby & Steve's Auto World
3. Staring Preserve
4. St. Andrew Condominium Site.
5. Amendment to the Bluff Country Village.
6. Presentation on Rain Water Gardens
There will be no Planning Commission Meeting on December 25, 2006 due to the
Holiday.
IX. MEMBERS REPORTS
Stoltz asked Franzen if there have been any new developments with the Bent Creek Golf
Course. Franzen stated there have been no new developments since the November 13,
2006, Planning Commission meeting.
X. CONTINUING BUSINESS
XI. NEW BUSINESS
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XII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Stoltz, seconded by Kirk, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried
7-0. Pete Rocheford left prior to adjournment.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:56 p.m.