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EDEN PRAIRIE COMMUNITY PLANNING BOARD
MONDAY,JULY 28, 2003 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
BOARD MEMBERS: Ken Brooks, Randy Foote,
Vicki Koenig, Fred Seymour, Kathy Nelson,
Dave Steppat, Ray Stoelting, Paul Sodt, Bill
Sutherland
STAFF MEMBERS: Stu Fox, Manager of Parks and Natural Resources
Mike Franzen, City Planner
Al Gray, City Engineer
Jane Hovind, Recording Secretary
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE—ROLL CALL
Chair Stoelting called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Present: Chair Stoelting,
Commissioners Foote, Koenig, Nelson, Seymour, Sodt, Steppat, and Sutherland.
Absent: Brooks
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION by Steppat, second by Koenig, to approve the agenda. Motion carried,
8-0
III. MINUTES
A. Minutes of the July 14, 2003 Community Planning Board Meeting
Koenig stated the first line of the first paragraph on page 6 should read "will"
instead of should.
Steppat stated the first line of the 7th paragraph on page six should read "He was not
concerned at this time about density but will be interested in seeing the
architecture."
MOTION by Koenig, second by Steppat, to approve the minutes of the July 14,
2003 Community Planning Board Meeting. Motion carried, 6-0. Abstentions:
Foote and Seymour
IV. PUBLIC MEETINGS
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V. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. EDEN PRAIRIE CEMETERY EXPANSION by Eden Prairie Cemetery
Association, Inc. Request for Zoning District Change from R1-13.5 to Public on
1 acre. Location: West of Eden Prairie Road, north and east of Cottonwood Lane.
Michael Rogers, Chairman of the Board of the Eden Prairie Cemetery
Association,presented the project. He spoke about the history of the cemetery
and acquisition of land over the years. He said the Board would like to extend the
cemetery into Outlot B and will be using that property in approximately 30-35
years. He stated they plan to buffer the area with pine trees which should grow to
maturity by the time the area is utilized.
Franzen stated the rezoning to public would be consistent with the comprehensive
guide plan. He said staff would like the tree installation to occur before they start
utilizing the expansion area. He said if they planted the trees now, they would be
mature and provide a buffer, and they would not have to bond for them later.
Ken Carney, 8841 Cottonwood Lane, stated his property backs up to the
cemetery. He said he had no problems with the expansion and rezoning. He was
concerned about the area on the southeast side of the site where they've been
removing mature trees which had been a buffer for the neighborhood from the
cemetery and Eden Prairie Road. He stated six foot evergreens are not substantial
enough to screen the cemetery from the homes. He said the residents were told
that the tree removal had to do with drainage but there was also a lot of fill in the
area.
Rogers responded that the trees removed were primarily box elder. He stated they
also want to make sure to have as much buffer as is necessary and realize they
will need to work with the southeast section to buffer the cemetery from the
neighbors. He said the construction along Eden Prairie Road resulted in the
removal of some dying pine trees. He stated in regard to the grading, a ditch was
filled and the area landscaped which included contouring to improve slope and
drainage.
Nelson asked if evergreen seedlings would be a better choice to add to that area
since they provide better screening. She said when planting seedlings they may
want to plant a double row which would allow for replacement of dead trees and
transplanting. She stated it was important to retain some longer lasting trees.
Rogers stated that the area is shaded much of the time and evergreens may not
survive. He said they would do whatever needs to be done to buffer that area.
MOTION by Sodt, second by Nelson, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried, 8-0
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MOTION by Koenig, second by Steppat, to recommend approval of a Zoning
District Change from R1-13.5 to Public on 1 acre,based on plans dated July 14,
2003, subject to the recommendations of the staff report dated July 25, 2003, to
the City Council. Motion carried, 8-0
B. VARIANCE#2003-05 for Sterling Fence: owner Doug McCann for property at
13480 Pioneer Trail, Eden Prairie, Minnesota.
To permit approval for:
1. Outside storage of 12 trucks over 3/4 ton (Code limits outside vehicle parking
to vehicles not exceeding 3/4 ton);
2. Outside storage of fence construction materials (Code requires materials,
supplies, and equipment to be in an enclosed building);
3. Permit parking to continue at a 0' setback from the property south lot line
(Code requires a 10 foot minimum setback for parking).
Doug McCann presented the variance. He stated he has been in business for a
number of years and when he located there two years ago a variance was granted
for outside storage. He said he has kept the area as clean as possible and is
requesting a five year variance for outdoor storage.
Franzen stated interim use is a good characterization of the property. He said
when the fence company moved in there was concern that the use would not be
compatible with future office buildings to the east. Staff is recommending that if
this is approved, it should be for a two year time period.
Koenig asked staff who owned the property behind Sterling Fence. Fox
responded that it is City owned property. Koenig asked how many acres there
were. Fox responded he wasn't sure but there are several parcels. Koenig stated
she assumed this property would not be developed. Fox responded it would not.
Koenig asked why this business doesn't fit with the office to the east. Franzen said
outdoor storage is a permitted use in I-General zoning provided the materials are
screened. The City has worked towards eliminating I-General zoning to convert
the land to higher and better uses. He stated the City has allowed this in other
industrial areas but only as an interim use. With this extension of utilities the site
to the east will develop into a more traditional office and industrial development
and outdoor storage is a visual impact on this future use. Since the market is soft,
a 2 year condition for outdoor storage is reasonable.
Koenig asked whether there were any other sites that were granted a variance for
outside storage. Franzen responded there was a plant nursery with outside storage
in the area which is now the site of the Crosstown athletic facility. Koenig asked
if the they could approve a five year time limit. Franzen stated that the time limit
is up to the Board. Sodt stated the area may change in the future and he made two
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points 1) the two year limit is a good idea and 2) Mr. McCann needs to plan ahead
for inside storage in the future.
Steppat asked if Mr. McCann had any plans for inside storage. Mr. McCann
responded that it would mean running the business differently. He stated he is
currently leasing part of his building to help pay for costs and it would be a major
change to store indoors. Koenig stated there doesn't appear to be any other place
to store items but in your current building. Sodt stated he could put a building in
the fenced area on the property and use it for storage. McCann stated he could
plan for it in the future. Foote stated he agreed with Sodt in that the variance
should be reviewed every two years. Seymour stated he agreed about the two
year limit. He asked staff for an updated timetable of the office project in the area.
Franzen stated the owners don't have any tenants and won't start building until
they are 60% leased.
Koenig asked Mr. McCann if a two year variance would be a hardship for him.
He responded it would not. Koenig stated she would like to go with the five year
but realizes the other members would like a two year limit.
MOTION by Sodt, second by Koenig, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried, 8-0
MOTION by Sodt, second by Steppat, to recommend approval of the following
variances based on plans dated July 14, 2003, subject to the recommendations of
the staff report dated July 25, 2003, which includes a two year time period for the
variance and direction for the proponent to prepare for inside storage of trucks
and materials and the following:
1. Variance to permit the outside storage of 12 trucks over 3/4 ton for a 2 year
period.
2. Variance to permit outdoor storage of fence construction materials for a 2 year
period.
3. Variance for parking setback from 10 to zero feet from the side lot line for a 2
year period.
Motion carried, 8-0
Steppat left the meeting at 7:40 p.m.
C. VARIANCE #2003-06 for Nathan Bergeland for property located at 7012
Willow Creek Road, Eden Prairie, MN
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To permit approval for:
A 100' principal structure setback from the SW Ordinary High Water Level of
Bryant Lake and a 75 foot principal structure setback from the SE Ordinary High
Water Level of Bryant Lake.
Rich Boumeester presented the variance request. He stated Mr. Bergeland is
requesting an extension to the setback variance. He said the plans were redrawn,
submitted to the City and approved by the Building Inspections Department. The
plans are complete but the variance has expired.
Franzen stated there is history with this property dating back several years to the
Perkins Subdivision. In 1998 there was a subdivision which created three lots and
variances were granted which allowed setbacks of 75 feet on one side and 100
feet on the other. There was discussion as to leaving the house as it was or tearing
it down and building a new one. The Council decided that the house should be
torn down and a new one built according to the approved plans of the original
subdivision. The extension of this variance should get the construction under
way.
Nelson stated with the history and research that has been done on this property,
she was for approval of the extension of the variance since it has been reviewed
thoroughly.
Koenig asked if it would be a two year extension since the letter requests an
indefinite extension. Franzen responded the Board can determine the length of
time for this variance.
Sodt stated that he hopes that next time it comes in the drawings are more clear
and easier to read.
MOTION by Sodt, second by Nelson, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried, 7-0. Abstention: Steppat
MOTION by Nelson, second by Foote, recommend approval of the following
variance based on plans dated July 3, 2003, subject to the recommendations of the
staff report dated July 25, 2003. Motion carried, 7-0. Abstention: Steppat
1. Variance to permit a 100 foot principal structure setback from the SW
Ordinary High Water Level of Bryant Lake and a 75 foot principal
structure setback from the SE Ordinary High Water Level of Bryant Lake
Steppat returned to the meeting at 7:45 p.m.
VI. MEMBERS REPORTS
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Nelson stated that when she was looking at Sterling Fence property, she noticed across
the road there was outside storage of trucks and other materials. She said those
businesses don't appear to be in compliance with the outdoor storage. She asked staff to
take a look at them and make sure they are in compliance. Stoelting asked staff how they
are regulating these areas. Franzen responded there are a handful of businesses in town
that were in operation before zoning requirements came into effect; they have been
grandfathered in and are allowed to have use of the property as it existed before the codes
were changed. If they have inoperative vehicles in the setbacks, they can be told to
remove them. Another option would be to not allow any alteration of the property so it
can be purchased for redevelopment for another type of use. The best thing for staff to do
is check out the areas and come up with an action plan to correct deficiencies. Nelson
stated she would like these businesses brought into compliance with other businesses in
the area.
Sodt stated they had discussed the enforcement of this type of thing in the past. He asked
if there was anything the Board could do or the City could do to identify these types of
things; perhaps some publicity asking citizens to watch for these kinds of things. Franzen
responded City Staff answers 800 - 1,000 phone calls each year that are calling about
violations to City Code in the community. He said that the City is almost fully developed
and the future emphasis is on maintenance and enhancement. This is similar to more
established communities such as St. Louis Park. He stated staff will look at other fully
developed cities to see how they're successful in monitoring and maintaining their cities.
Sodt stated he would like staff to track those calls for a month to see where they were
coming from. Stoelting stated the idea of talking to other cities would be a good idea.
He asked if City staff could do this and report to the Board at a future meeting.
Koenig said the 800— 1,000 calls wasn't that surprising. She stated residents are very
aware of what's happening in their areas and she would like to see how other cities
address these problems.
Stoelting asked Franzen to determine the types and numbers of calls. Koenig stated that
if the Board is concerned about a certain piece of property, they could drive by to see
whether the site is meeting their requirements.
VII. CONTINUING BUSINESS
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
IX. PLANNERS' REPORTS
Franzen informed the Board members there will be no August 11 meeting because there
are no public hearings scheduled.
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Franzen updated the Board on the design of the banners for SW Station. He stated they
have a different design and colors. He showed an example to the Board. This plan was
presented to the City Council at a recent meeting as an amendment to the approved plan.
The Council approved the new banner design.
Foote stated he took the bus and saw two of the banners hanging up and was surprised
because it wasn't what the Board had approved but it looked good.
Nelson stated the whole SW Station project is looking very good.
Steppat stated that he would like an update on the Vikings stadium issue. Franzen stated
staff would do this after there has been some further discussions with the Vikings.
X. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION by Koenig, second by Nelson to adjourn. Motion carried, 8-0
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:05 p.m.