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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 08/15/1972 AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION TUESDAY, AUGUST 15, 1972 7:30 P. M. , EDEN PRAIRIE VILLAGE HALL INVOCATION - - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - - ROLL CALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Norma Schee, Chariman Pro-Tem Herb Fosnocht, Secretary Wayne Brown, Roger Boerger, Ralph Nesbitt, Don Sorenson, Patrick Casey, Mike Manning, Jammie Mikelson. COMMISSION STAFF: Robert Heinrich, Village Manager; Dick Putnam, Planner. I. 6:00 P. M. Village Hall - TOUR OF FOGELSON/HIRSCH TOWNHOUSE SITE IN THE PRESERVE. Visit to Jonathan Housing Corporation Townhouse Site in the Preserve. 6:30 P. M. Visit/inspect model townhouse units in Jonathan built by Jonathan Housing Corporation, similar to those proposed in the Preserve. Back to the Village Hall for Planning Commission meeting at 7:30 P. M. II. MINUTES OF AUGUST 1, 1972, MEETING. III. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS. A. onathan Housing Corporation-Request Approval of 30-unit Townhouse Complex south of E.W. Parkway Adjacent to Neil Lake in the Preserve. The request is for rezoning in conformance with the Preserve PUD 70-4 to RM 6 .5 and approval of the preliminary plat for the 30 units. B. Fogelson/Hirsch-Request ,approval of 203-unit Patio-home (quad), Townhouse Project south of Neil Lake Drive and north of Olympic Hills Golf Course in the Preserve. The request for rezoning to RM 6 .5 and approval of the development stage. IV. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. A. Wind slope-Action on staff recommendation-23 6 Housing Project in the Preserve - 168 units - staff report. B. Perkle and Arndt Baywood-Action on staff recommendation-Single Family Subdivision Request R1 13.5 zoning - Located at Co. Rd. 4 and Duck Lake Trail. tr F r AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION TUESDAY, AUGUST 15, 1972 7:30 P.M. , EDEN PRAIRIE VILLAGE HALL PAGE TWO C. Kemrich, Inc.-Action on staff recommendation-Request for Zoning to RI 13.5 for Single Family Subdivision Located on Duck Lake Trail. D. Elliason Construction-Resubmission of Project as P.U.D.-Request for R1 13.5 zoning of 50 acres for single family development west and south of Round Lake. E. Valley Knolls Addition-Action on staff recommendation-Bru-Mar Construction-Preliminary Flat and Rezoning-RI 13 .5 for single family subdivision on Duck Lake Trail. MINUTES • EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION Tuesday, August 15 , 1972 7:30 P.M. , Village Hall INVOCATION - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - ROLL CALL Members present were: Chairman Norma Schee, Chairman Pro-Tem Herb Fosnocht, Secretary Wayne Brown, Roger Boerger, Ralph Nesbitt, Don Sorenson, Patrick Casey. Also present were: Dick Putnam, Planner. I. TOUR OF FOGELSON/HIRSCH TOWNHOUSE SITE AND JONATH,' N , HOUSING CORPORATION TOWNHOUSE SITE .IN THE PRESERVE BEGAN AT 6:3 0 P.M. AT THE VILLAGE HALL. Schee, Brown, Boerger, Sorenson, Casey and Putnam attended the tour. Commission members visited the proposed bventy-five acre site for the Fogelson/Hirsch townhouses in the first phase of the Preserve adjacent to Neil Lake just south of Preferred Developers on North Olympic Hills Golf Course. The extreme rolling terrain • in the great vistas over the golf course in Neil Lake were noted by all members of the Commission. Second site visited was the five acre parcel on the west edge of the Preserve adjacent to the Village Center just north of Neil Lake and south of the parkway. This is the site for the Jonathan Housing Corporation proposal for thirty townhouse units. It was noted that the site was flat with an oak tree line on the eastern edge and the sewer easement which runs through the site on the eastern or western side. 'Those two factors can strain the development into that area approximately two hundred to two hundred and fifty feet in width. The Commission observed the marshy land to the west which will remain open, and the close proximity to Neil Lake on the south which has large pedestrian open spaces there. The Commission then moved to Jonathan, the new town in Chaska, to take a tour of the proposed units by the Jonathan Housing Corporation. The units were under construction and we observed the two bedroom units which are located on the ends of the four unit buildings and the three bedroom units in the middle. The units are planned in such a fashion that one side would be the garage entry side. Two bedroom units would have one car garages and the three bedroom units would have two car garages. The • living areas all front to one side of the unit and include small pation areas iprith excellent views from that side.' The three bedroom unit has three bedrooms upstairs and a bath and one half, two story vaulted living room space and dining room space, kitchen, and bath downstairs. The two bedroom unit has a great flexibility in that it has a large living, dining area that opens to the front side of the units and upstairs is an enlargement space Minutes • Planning and Zoning August 15, 1972 Page Two for second bedroom or study that is approximately 15 x 15 feet with a vaulted ceiling. These units are selling from $25-29,000 and the price is expected to be nearly the same in the Preserve, or approximately $1,000 more per unit. II. MINUTES OF AUGUST 1 , 1972 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. Moved by Casey and seconded by Boerger that the minutes be approved with the corrections that Mr. <Forenson will be giving to the staff. Motion carried. PETITIONS, REOUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS. A. Jonathan Housing Corporation Request Approval of 30-Unit Townhouse Complex South of the East-West Parkway and Adjacent to Neil Lake in the Preserve. Jonathan Housing Corporation is requesting rezoning to RM 6 .5 and preliminary plat approval for the 30 units. • Mr. Bonner from the Preserve gave a brief description for those in the audience and Planning Commission members that were not on the tour of where the site was located in the Preserve. He also gave a slide presentation of- the units that are being built in Jonathan, which are two and three bedroom townhouse units with two and one car garages. An important element of this proposal is the lineal spine nature of the circulation system, which runs south to north on the east-west parkway. The street will be one that is very tight in bet ,7een the units - approximately 32 feet which has garages butting up directly to it. There are additional parking spaces provided along this spine street. All of the living spaces of the units front out away from the street to the oak grove on the east and the marsh on the west. Commission members asked some questions relating to :the width between units where the garages have fronted back to back, being thirty-two feet, if that was sufficient to provide the turning movements necessary. They asked that the staff and the developers investigate this thoroughly before the next meeting. Also, . the total number of parking spots, if that was sufficient for the project,and also if recreational vehicle storage was pro- vided, and if so, where? An additional area of concern was the adequate turning space for any emergency vehicles into this spot. Mr. Bonner noted that there was a. possibility of connecting the street system to the adjacent project to the east by way of a small drive at the south end of the project. This was felt to be less desirable since it may increase traffic through the project. A better solution would be a large turn around space at the and nnra thio wniilrl ha in%iAc: irr,,)tnrl Minutes • Planning and Zoning August 15 , 1972 Page Three This proposal is a true clustering of units, due to the confined space by the oak ridge on the east and sewer easement on the ,west. This requires that the units be grouped into tight clusters, leaving open space on the outsides of the units. _Action Taken Recommend a public hearing date for the first Council meeting in September, September 12, and refer the proposal to the staff for recommendations. B. Fogelson/Hirsch Proposal of 203 Patio Homes in the Preserve Was Not Presented This Evening Pending Further Design Work on the Project. iV. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS A. Windslope. Commission action on a staff report dated July 30, 1972 , about the MAIA's non-profit housing corporation's • 236 rental apartment project in the Preserve for 168 units. Planner noted that he had talked with Deputy Attorney General John Keneflick regarding the attorney general's option on the tax question surrounding 236 projects for Eden Prairie. Mr. Putnam noted that there were three major areas that are being discussed and that the report will be available later this week. The areas are covered under 17B which puts Eden Prairie into the category of under 10,000 and that a 5% tax of full and true value on subsidized projects does apply. w econdly, that no special census may be taken to determine when the population is over 10,000;.and that the 15 year term of the 5% assessment would be valid even though the law was repealed or the community was over 10, 000 population,and thirdly that the developer could enter into a contract with the Village for the difference in cost between the 20% assessment and the 5% assessment for the period of time either the length of the mortgage or the 15 years. The repayment mentioned could take various forms, some of which could possibly be through assessment policy through the Village or an agreement with the developer. Since the attorney general's ruling has been written and its contents known, it was felt that the Commission could make a recommendation at this time • on the Windslope project. As you remember, the Shelter 236 project in Edenvale is before the Council, and the hearing has been continued pending the attorney general's opinion. Minute s . Planning and Zoning August 15, 1972 Page Four The planner noted that the staff report on the MAIA's project dealt primarily with non-physical concerns , such as social considerations, types of families, capabilities of the developers, objectives, and political considerations. The site planning, design of the unit, etc. was felt to be excellent, as it should be by the developers group, the American Institute of Architects, the Minneapolis Chapter. Mr. Putnam asked that special consideration be given to recom- mendation three, stating that the Village encouraged the MAIA/ Eberhardt joint partnership to consider the inclusion of market rate units and rent supplement units in the YTindslope project. He felt that this item deserved discussion and consideration by the Commission since the project as proposed would not include rent supplement units. He also referred the Commission members to the discussion at the last Council meeting of the Windslope project. This was a public hearing, and Mr. Putnam • noted the concern by various Council members that rent supplement was not being included. There was very little discussion of this issue. Action Taken. Sorenson moved and Brown seconded that the Planning Commission recommend to the Council the outlined in the staff report dated July 30, 1972 . 1. The Windslope project for moderate income housing in the Preserve be approved as an excellent multiple family residential environment. 2 . A development plan be approved and the 10. 8 acre site be rezoned RM1 2 .5 based upon the site plan and the 168 units proposed are the MAIA/Eberhardt joint partnership. 3. The Planning Commission recommends deletion of item three in the staff report, stating that the Village encourages the. MAIA/Eberhardt joint partnership to consider the inclusion of market rate units and rent supplement units in the "Windslope project. The Commission did not feel that this was appropriate. • 4. That the "Windslope 236 project include adequate interior common space for the residents with adjustment to unit mix if necessary to preserve the concept of the project. That the review and approval of the ' interior common space be given by the Planning Commission or Council prior to issuance of a building permit. Minute s Planning and Zoning • August 15 , 1972 Page Five 5. The approval of this project is contingent upon obtaining an enforceable legal contract for the developers to pay the Village the difference in the tax revenue that would be derived from 20% of assessed valuation verses 5% of assessed valuation. The amended staff report was approved unanimously by the Commission. B. Perkl-Arndt Baywood's Single Family Preliminary Plat and Rezoning RI 13 .5 Adjacent to Duck Lake and County Road 4 The planner briefly discussed the staff report and indicated the areas of concern that the Commission expressed at its last meeting. The access to County Road 4 was checked by the County Highway Department and was found acceptable. Secondly, Bay'�,,rood Terrace, a dead end street, be revised into a c,-l-de-sac or bubble so as not to interfere with Mr. Stodola's property to the north. The legal agreements, easements, or homeowner's association be established before a final plat approval • be granted in dealing with the common spaces and outlots in this proposal. The Commission asked about the problem of drainage to Duck Lake and that if this project would adversely affect the level of the lake , raising it and causing flooding in some basements. Mr. Hanson, an enginesr from Schoell and Madson, did not feel that this would be a problem. Action Taken Fosnocht moved, Nesbitt seconded to recommend to the Council that the preliminary plat be approved and rezoning to R 1 ' 13 .5 in conformance vrith the Baywood single family plat to be revised be approved %tilith the parameters of 'the staff report dated August 15 , 1972 with these additions. Change item five to read, the revision of the dead end street, Baywood Terrace, be modified to provide access to lot one in conformance with the Village subdivision ordinances. Additional point number ten that the Village Engineer establish the drainage from the Baywood project and its influence upon Duck Lake so that it will not affect the existing area residence detrimentally. The motion was passed unanimously. • C . Edenborough Proposed by l',emrich, Inc. Single Family Plat . North of Duct; Lake Trail and Adjacent to the Bellhurst Addition. Planner briefly reviewed the elements of this project and noted that it is a very straight forward single family project. 'it had been reviewed by the Park and Recreation Commission with their full approval as to the dedication of the northerly low land area Minute s Planning and Zoning • August 15, 1972 -- Page Six to park area. The only addition that might be proposed would be some form of steps or hard surface walkway that would be installed along the storm sewer easement running to the north from the proposed street to provide access for the residents to the proposed park: in the future. The letter addressed to Mrs. Marks explaining the options available to her and the impact of this project upon her land was reviewed, and the planner noted that she had thanked the Commission for their concern; but at the present time she did not wish to develop and had no disagreements with the I4emrich proposal. The Commission asked that the staff obtain a letter from Mrs. Marks stating that she did receive the letter dated August 10, 1972, and that she was aware of the points in it. Action Taken. Sorenson moved, seconded by Schee, to recommend to the Council rezoning R1 13.5 and preliminary plat approval in - conformance •3it'a the plan Edenborough by Kemrich with the parameters outlined in the staff report dated August 11, 1972, • with the following exception. Delete item t vo, ancl, item three changed to read, recommend that the pathJaay/steps etc. along the storm se*�ver easement running to the park be installed by the developer at a inridth to be determined and approved by the Village staff. The motion passed unanimously. D. Elliason Construction Company Request PUD Concept Approval and Rezoning of the Property for a Single Family 13 .5 Subdivision of Approximately 50 Acres Located North of Highway 5 and South and "Nest of Round .Lake. Mr. Olson from Caswell and Associates presented a colored graphic indicating the proposal and the additions suggested by the Planning Commission at its last meeting. Also, he noted that the proposal is being resubmitted as a PUD and asked for comments relating to the project. The revised material was not provided to the Village until Friday at noon and there was not sufficient time for staff review and recommendation. The Round Lake Estates Proposal would have a public hearing the next council meeting, Pugust 22nd. Action Taken. Casey moved, Boerger seconded, to recommend to the Council • that a public hearing shall be held as scheduled and that the Council action Mould be withheld until the staff recommendation and the Planning Commission recommendation have been completed. Motion passed unanimously. Minutes Planning and Zoning August 15 , 1972 Page Seven E. Valley Knolls Addition - Bru-Mar Construction_Compann Requests Rezoning R1 13.5 and Preliminary Plat Approval. The planner briefly discussed the staff report and used aerial photos to show the character of the site 'which is flat, primarily, with a steep slope to the north. The planner. indicated the advantages of the cul-de-cas streets and the four acre park dedication to Arith which ties into the proposed park golf course area. Mr. Casey asked that the Village Staff investigate the drainage impact on Duck Lake from this project. The inclusion of concret pathways was discussed along Duck Lake Trail and Duck Lake Road because of the "thru" street traffic. Mr. Marve nnderson was agreeable to that suggestion at Isis cost. The Valley Knolls single family plat is an appropriate addition to the Duck Lake area. • Action Taken Casey moved and Sorenson seconded to recommend to the Council approval of the Valley Knolls addition based upon the criteria of the staff report dated August 15, 1972, ;jvlith two additions. 1. Add "concrete" before walkway in recommendation. 2. Add a fourth recommendation that the Village engineer establish the drainage from the project so that it ,mill not adversely affect existing area residents. F. Set the Next Planning Commission Meeting for August 29, 1972 , 7:30 P. M. , Eden Prairie Village Hall. The meeting was adjourned at 11:45 P.M. Respectully submitted, Wayne Brown, Secretary