HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 05/22/1975 AGENDA
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Thursday, May 22 , 1975
7:30 PM City Hall
Invocation --- Pledge of Allegiance --- Roll Call
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairperson Don Sorensen, Herb Fosnocht, Norma Schee
Richard Feerick, Dick Lynch, loan Meyers, Roger
Boerger
STAFF MEMBERS: Dick Putnam, Chris Enger, jean M. Egan
I. MINUTES OF THE MAY 12, 1975 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
II. MEMBERS REPORTS.
A. Chairman Sorensen
B. Council Representative Meyers
C. Fosnocht & Boerger
D. Other members
III. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
A. Flying Cloud Airport Study, proposed expansion of the existing Qeneral Utility
Airport to a Basic Transport Airport by lengthing the runways and installing
instrument landing systems. Discussion of potential impacts of the proposed
airport expansion upon land uses, transportation , open space and human
environment.
B. Comprehensive Guide Plan Update, discussion of the process_ which might be
used to update the 1968 Plan and its amendments. Explanation of preliminary
data concerning existing ?plans and developed areas.-
C. Planned Unit Development Ordinance, discussion of' reliminary draft.
D. Planned Study Districts, discussion of possible rezoning of parcels to PS District
and changing portions of the ordinance to extend time over present 1 year limit.
E. Modern Tire,rezoning from Rural to Highway Commercial for the construction
of a 50'x100' addition to the existing building. The site is 1/2 mile north
of Flying Cloud Airport at 9051 Flying Cloud Drive.
F. Olympic Hills, requesting PUD Development Plan approva4, rezoning of the
first phase from Rural to RM 6.5 and preliminary plat approval. The site is
approximately 28 acres of land located west of Franlo Road and surrounded by
the Olympic, Hills Golf Club Grounds. ( A continued Public Hearing )
IV. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS.
Public Hearings.
A. Edengate Townhouse Project, requesting preliminary plat approval, PUD Develop-
ment Stage Approval and rezoning for 196 townhouse units, 78.9 acres of
community park and 10 acres of neighborhood park. The site is located on
120 acres north of Duck Lake Trail and east of Lochanburn.
B. Parkview Apartments, requesting PUD Development Stage approval, - rezoning
from Rural to RM 2.5 and preliminary plat approval in accord with the Mitchell
Heights PUD Concept approval.
V. PLANNER'S REPORT.
A. Posting Rezoning Signs.
B.- Others
VI. ADJOURNMENT.
ADDENDUM
Planning Commission Agenda
Thursday, May 22, 1975
7:30 PM City Hall
III. REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
G.Grading Plan for Area G of The Preserve Commercial Plan.
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EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Thursday, May 22, 1975 approved
7:30 PM City Hall
MEMBERS PRESENT. Chairperson Don Sorensen, Herb Fosnocht, Roger
Boerger, Dick Feerick
MEMBERS ABSENT: Richard Lynch, Norma Shee, Joan Meyers
.WAFF PRESENT: Planning Director Dick Putnam
(Meeting was delayed until 8:00'PM waiting for quorum).
I .MINUTES OF THE MAY 12 , 1975 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
The minutes were continued to the June 10, 1975, Planning Commission
Meeting.
I I MEMBERS REPORTS.
No members reports were presented.
III .REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
A. Flying Cloud Airport Study, proposed expansion of the existing General
Utility Airport to a Basic Transport Airport for Flying Cloud field. Discussion
of potential impacts of the proposed airport expansion upon land uses,
transportation, open space and human environment.
• Mr. Putnam discussed Dr. Bofenkamp's paper previously distributed to the
Commission concerning airport expansion and impact of noise pollution. Dr.
Bofenkamp was unable to attend due to a prior committment but expressed his
interest in the expansion and working with.the Planning Commission and the
Airports Commission to resolve the expansion plan for the benefit of the
community and airport users.
The planner discussed concerns of noise, additional lands, impact on tax and
fiscal picture for the City, alternate land use options available and whether they
were realistic given the natural terrain and Eden Prairie Comprehensive Plan.
Al Lang, General Manager - Flight Training Center at Flying Cloud Airport,
stated that the airport industries were in favor of some expansion and improve-
ment to Flying Cloud field to keep it current, but that they were not totally
in favor of upgrading the airport to accommodate significant jet traffic. The
existing businessess were not dependent upon jet traffic, and that jets may
create problems for the operation of prop and turbo-prop aircraft. He questioned
the way the petition that is being circulated throughout the community was presente(
to the residents and that there might be some misunderstanding as to the real
question addressed in the petition. Mr. Lang did not feel that conversion of Flying
Cloud to a transport facility was realistic or even anticipated by MAC and that
• the airport would remain as a training center. He questioned the economic impact
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• that expansion at the airport would have and indicated the property taxes that
are paid by the airport industries and the employment that is generated today
by the Eden Prairie businesses at Flying Cloud.
Commission members questioned the need to have jet aircraft at Flying Cloud
field. .Secondly, that a noise study with on site readings would be more
helpful in understanding the noise impact than a statistical laboratory approach.
Mr. Lang said MAC and the airport industries are discussing a potential up-
grading solution between the A and B-1 alternatives providing for minimum
safety and navigational improvements without greatly expanding the aircraft
size capacity of Flying Cloud field.
Bill Bonner, of Hustad Corporation, and resident of Creek Wood, expressed a
concern about the "10% window concept" and that it was confusing to most.
Putnam explained that the "window concept" dealt with 10% of the time per hour
meaning 6 minutes per hour which the noise levels could exceed PCA guide-
lines. Mr. Bonner had concern about the impacts on their land holdings which
they believe should be significantly residential in character and that the
airport upgrading could alter their marketability and ultimate use.
Discussion of whether the noise standard applied to the airport could be a
maximum level allowing only aircraft which meets that noise level to land unless
in emergency situations. This would pertain to jet and non-jet aircraft.
ACTION: Motion by Fosnocht, seconded by Feerick to request the staff to
meet Dr. Bofenkamp and MAC consulting team to develop a report summarizing
the issues and alternative solutions. The motion passed unanimously.
B. Comprehensive Plan , the Commission suggested that the Comprehensive
Plan discussion be held over until the next meeting.
C. Planned Unit Development Ordinance - Commission continued this item
until the next agenda.
D. Planned Study Districts - The Commission continued this item until the
next agenda.
E. Modern Tire - rezoning from Rural to Highway Commercial for the construction
of an addition to the existing building. The site is located approximately 1/2
mile north of Flying Cloud Airport at 9051 Flying Cloud Drive.
At the May 12 meeting, attorney for Modern Tire, Mr. John Crouch, indicated that
he would prepare a letter stating his clients position concerning the possible
approval of the building permit without a definite zoning action.
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• Mr. Crouch's letter was received at the City Hall Thursday morning, May 22,so
neither the commission nor Mr. Perbix had reviewed its contents. The Planning
Commission directed the staff to submit the recommendation of the May 12
meeting concerning the 169 Mini-Sector Study suggested by Brauer & Associates
in their review_of the Modern Tire rezoning to the Council for consideration.
ACTION: Boerger moved, Fosnocht seconded to continue thb Modern Tire
rezoning request to the June 9 , 1975, meeting. -Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Crouch, attorney for Modern Tire, agreed with the Commissions decision
to continue to the June 9. meeting so his letter might be considered.
F. Olympic Hills - PUD development stage application and rezoning request
for first phase atrium double-units from Rural RM 6.5 and 49 unit multiple
building from Rural to RM 2.5, located west of Franlo Road adjacent to
Olympic Hillis Golf Course.
The planner discussed the May 19, 1975, staff review from BRW concerning
the suggested revisions in the Olympic Hills proposal. Planner reviewed
the changes which have been made to the plan and the reduction in units
from 60 to 49 units for the multiple-family apartment. Mr. Knutson,
representing Olympic Hills, explained the changes to the cul-de-sac
• units and the expansion of the green area outlined in the BRW report
to reduce the grading necessary to place units on'the hillside. He
indicated the street system would be private, ma.intained by the Home-
owners Association, and that the modifications suggested in the BRW
report are acceptable to the developer.
ACTION : Boerger moved and Feerick seconded to recommend approval to
the City Council of the following request by Olympic Hills:
1. Preliminary plat approval for the phase 1 twenty-two unit atrium homes
made up of four tuck-tinder units and 18 walk-out units based on the revised
plan 5/22/75.
2. Approval of the development stage plan for the 49 luxury apartment units
with underground parking on the 2.5 acre site and recommend rezoning
to RM 2.5.
3. The wildlife pass be left in a natural condition with a minimum distance
• between buildings-_of:15.0'feet.
4. Construction on the phase 1 atrium units and phase 2 apartment units
begin within two years from the date of rezoning approval or the City
Council may initiate rezoning back to Rural for the sites.
MOTION Feerick, Sorensen, Fosnocht, Boerger voted yes. No - no votes.
Motion passed unanimously.
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IV. PETITIONS AND REQUESTS.
Public Hearings.
A. Edengate Townhouse Project- requesting preliminary plat and rezoning to
RM 6.5 for 196 townhouse units on 120 acre site located north of Duck Lake
Trail and east of Lochanburn Addition.
Planner indicated that a revised plan has been prepared by the proponent
to accommodate the concern raised at the last Commission meeting. Mr.
Tom Erickson, representing the developer, explained a number of the
concerns relating to the platting of the tradks A, B, C, and the question
about the assessment charges acceptable to the developer.
Mr. Berg then discussed the changes made to the site plan on a unit by
unit basis taking into account the request to reduce the'mass of the
structures. Also, the movement of the structures away from the buffer
zone, leaving between 500-600 feet between existing houses and proposed
new buildings. He indicated that modifications to the structures allow
offsets of up to 16 feet at the wall between units.
Mr. Berg then explained a traffic analysis prepared in response to the
City engineers concern, relative to trip generations. He indicated that
their analysis indicated that 66% of the trip were work oriented with
half east and half west on Duck Lake Trail. Cne third of the trip were
convenience trips, adult oriented, of which 85% would be west and 15
east. Mr. Berg's analysis indicated that approximately 750 would go
west on Duck Lake Trail and 460 would go east towards County
Road 4. The developer believed that they could pay the additional costs
as outlined in Mr. jullie's report for the improvement of Duck Lake Trail,
from their entrance to 101, to accommodate the additional traffic, requiring
a thicker street section.
The question of recreational vehicle parking was discussed and the developer
agreed to limit all recreational vehicle parking to inside garages or off site.
Mr. Pautz indicated that the density currently was 5.2 dwelling units per
acre on the developable land with 1.2 units per acre over the entire 118
acre parcel. He believes that with 9% site coverage, that the 196 units
proposed is a far better solution to the use of the site than the original
concept plan showing apartments and townhouses. He also felt that the
plan, as modified; was a superior plan to the one originally presented.
Robert Mavis, spokesman for the homeowners group and resident of Lochanburn
Addition, indicated that they did not receive a copy of the revised plan and
had 'only seen it that evening, but he did not believe that the changes
appreciably altered their opposition to the proposed multiple-family development.
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He indicated that they were still concerned about traffic on Duck Lake Trail,
that the mixing of multiple-family rental units into an existing single-family
neighborhood was in the best interest of the residents of the community. The
residents which he represents were not in favor of the proposed plan as modified.
Mr. Sorensen asked if the grading, landscaping, emergency vehicle access,
.and pathway plans were substantially the same as before. The developer
responded that they were with slight modifications to accommodate the
movements of units requested by the Commission.
Mr. Putnam stated that changes made to the plan seem to accommodate the
concerns expressed by the Commission at the last meeting. In his opinion,
the developer had met the concerns expressed about the buffer, recreational
facilities, and traffic concerns given the Townhouse unit design. Putnam
indicated that a basic issue seems to be the land use relative to multiple-
family versus single-family development. The residents are asking for
single-family development on the 120 acre site rather than multiple-family
which was approved by the City in 1970. He believes that this basic issue
had to be addressed and that would be the issue since the plan as modified,
responds to the concerns raised by residents, staff, and Planning Commission
• members.
ACTION: Boerger moved, Feerick seconded to recommend to the Council
approval of the preliminary plat for the Edengate development and rezoning
to RM 6.5 as per the plan dated May 15, 1975, for 196 units as an implemen-
tation of-the PUD concept plan approved in 1970. That the approval is based
upon the items of the Planning Staff Report dated April 7 and the May 8 Engineers
Report accepting the phasing recommendations of the Engineers Report and
these additions:
A. Development must begin on the site within 24 months of the
approval by the City Council or the project would be rezoned
to Rural.
B. The developer would pay the cost difference between the existing
design capacity of Duck Lake Trail and a 9 ton road between
.Highway 101 and Edengates proposed entrance.
C. Phasing as recommended in the engineering report would not
be required if the,City engineer finds the road improvements
meet the traffic safety and capacity needs on Duck Lake
Trail.
DISCUSSION: Mr. Feerick complimented the neighbors for their well thought-
out concerns and their interest, however, he did believe that the Edengate
• project, as modified, was a legitimate use and a need for the area.
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Mr. Sorensen felt that the approval of the Edengate development stage,
though well done and a plan which responded to the Commission concern,
would set a precedence for lands adjacent to the lowland area north
to Townline Road, as multiple-family character, which he did not
believe was consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. He also stated
he did not think more than one creek crossing was appropriate and
that the number of units proposed should not be completed until the
north/south and east/west collector streets serving the Duck Lake area
were completed. Sorensen also believed Edengate was not an appropriate
transitional use and that the massing of the units was still incompatible
with a residential neighborhood. He further complimented the developer
and the residents for going an extra mile to deal with complex concerns.
ACTION : The Planning Commission voted. Boerger and Feerick yes to
the motion; Sorensen and.Fosnocht no. The motion lost 2-2.
B. Parkview Apartments, by Eden Land Corporation, request for rezoning to
RM 2.5 from. Rural and preliminary plat approval for the 45 acre apartment
development located south of Chestnut Apartments and east of Mitchell Road.
The planner reviewed Mr. Enger's staff report concerning the modifications to
• the original plan made by Eden Land Corporation. The staff report recommends
denial of the project as modified, consistent with the previous BRW staff
review because of the large grading areas, similar building types and inappropriate
commercial land use.
Mr. Lyle Landstrom then explained in detail their concerns relative to the
staff reports of BRW and Mr. Enger. He indicated that the phase 1 development
did not significantly alter the natural site and that the grading required was
necessary to develop the site as planned. He then explained how they had
looked at St. John's woods, Hirsch Townhouses, and Millcreek, and had
observed similar grading situations, yet, the projects have been well done.
He believed the buildings, as proposed, could accommodate grade changes
by off-setting and stepping the units. Mr. Landstrom then explained the need
to build units of this type to qualify for a 221 D-4 F.H.A. program. He
indicated that the.reduction in the garages, the economies of two story
construction and other features of the project were required to build under
the federal program.
The planner indicated that the Edengate project, which was a semi-luxury unit,
also qualified under similar financing through F.H.A. and that other types of
developments, including townhouse, could be built, jack Henning, the potential
builder, indicated his interest in constructing the project as proposed.
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He said economies and the unique plan compliment units existing in Eden
Prairie and compete with other projects of lower rentals. Mr. Henning
believed that the 3/4 to 1 garage ratio and guest parking provided was
reasonable and necessary to make the project successful. The project
would appeal to younger families with a lower to moderate income and that,
in his opinion, the plan respected and preserved the qualities of the site.
Don Peterson, president of Eden Land Corporation, addressed the question of
assessments, stating that the convenience center and multiple-family housing
were required to develop the site, given the assessments. The planner asked .
if the assessment for the parkway should not be spread over the entire 60 acre
PUD that was submitted and approved by the City in 1972, rather than exempting
the 14 acres to the west of this site from the parkway assessment. Mr. Peterson
did not know if this could be done but was not opposed to that action. Peterson
indicated that by moving the East/West Parkway it would not signficantl"y alter
the usability of the sites and that they would still request commercial at
the corner of Chestnut Drive and East/West Parkway. Mr. Peterson said that
Eden Land was interested in gaining approval of the first phase 128 units and
the convenience .center site and general density approval on the remainder of the
property at this time so that they may begin financing and construction.
• A resident living in the Atherton Townhouse area expressed concern about the
project& recommended that it not be approved as outlined in the staff reports
Alternate 3.
ACTION: (Motion 1) - Fosnocht moved and Boerger seconded to recommend
to the City Council that the Parkview Apartment Project requesting RM 2.5
zoning from Rural be denied based upon BRW staff report and the May 19 staff
review.
Boerger, Fosnocht, and Sorensen voted in favor of the motion and Feerick
abstained because he was not convinced something could not be done with
the plan.
.(Motion 2) - Boerger moved and Feerick seconded to recommend to the City
Council that they consider the assessment policies for the old Shelter PUD
of approximately 60 acres, so that the parkway assessment may be equitably
spread over the benefiting properties as originally presented to the City of
Eden Prairie.
The 'motion passed unanimously.
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V. PLANNERS REPORT.
A. Rezoning Signs, due to the late hour and limited members present, this
item was continued to the next meeting.
Addendum III under REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS:
G. Grading Plan For Area G of the Preserve Commercial Plan was not considered
due to the late hour and limited numbers---present.
VI. ADTOURNMENT.
Meeting adjourned at 1:00 a.m.
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