HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 02/23/1987 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, February 23, 1987
7: 30 p.m.
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Ed Schuck, Richard Anderson, Julianne Bye,
Christine Dodge, Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett, Charles
Ruebling
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael Franzen, Senior
Planner; Don Uram, Assistant Planner; Kate Karnas,
Administrative Assistant
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
III. MINUTES
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
*(7: 35) A. TJH PLAT, by TJH Partnership. Request for Preliminary Plat of 1 .6
acres into one lot. Location: North and west of Commonwealth
Drive, east of Prairie Center Drive. A public hearing.
*(7:50) B. INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL OF MINNESOTA. Request for Comprehensive Guide
Plan Amendment from Medium Density Residential and Public Open Space
to Elementary/Secondary School on 55.6 acres, Zoning District Change
from Rural to Public on 55.6 acres, and Preliminary Plat of 55.6
acres into one lot and road right-of-way for construction of a
private school. The request also includes a change of the City
Code, Chapter 11, Section 11.35, entitled "Public District",
Subdivision 2, to allow private schools as a permitted use.
Location: North of Bryant Lake, west of Rowland Road, and east of
Beach Road and I-494. A public hearing.
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI . NEW BUSINESS
VII . PLANNER'S REPORT
VIII . ADJOURNMENT
*NOTE: THE TIMES LISTED ABOVE ARE TENTATIVE, AND MAY BE SIGNIFICANTLY EARLIER,
OR LATER,, THAN LISTED.
MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, February 23, 1987
School Board Meeting Room
7:30 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Ed Schuck, Rich Anderson, Julianne Bye, Christine
Dodge, Virginia Gartner, Chuck Ruebling
MEMBER ABSENT: Robert Hallett
STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael D. Franzen,
Senior Planner; Kate Karnas, Administrative Assistant
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION:
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Bye, to approve the agenda as
printed.
Motion carried--6-0-0
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
None.
III. MINUTES
MOTION•
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Bye, to approve the minutes of the
January 26, 1987, Planning Commission meeting as written.
Motion carried--5-0-1 (Dodge abstained)
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. TJH PLAT, by TJH Partnership. Request for Preliminary Plat of 1.6
acres into one lot. Location: North and west of Commonwealth
Drive, east of Prairie Center Drive. A public hearing.
Planner Enger explained that the proposed platting consisted of a request to
eliminate a lot line and create one lot out of an existing two lots in order
to accommodate the expansion of an existing office structure on the
property. He stated that, previously, it was common for such simple
"housekeeping" procedures to be handled administratively by City Staff.
However, it has been found that by requiring the platting of the property,
• Planning Commission Minutes 2 February 23, 1987
easements are easier to keep track of, whether they are being added, or
eliminated by such actions. This was particularly key with respect to
utility easements.
Chairman Schuck asked if it would be possible to save tree #4 as labeled on
the plans. Staff responded that this would be checked, and accomplished, if
possible.
Chairman Schuck asked for comments, or questions, from members of the
audience. There were none.
MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Dodge, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried--6-0-0
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of the TJH Partnership for Preliminary Plat
of 1.6 acres into one lot for use by an office building, based on plans
dated January 30, 1987, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report
. dated February 20, 1987, with the added condition that proponent attempt to
save tree #4, as labeled in the plans.
Motion carried--6-0-0
B. INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL OF MINNESOTA. Request for Comprehensive Guide
Plan Amendment from Medium Density Residential and Public Open Space
to Elementary/Secondary School on 55.6 acres, Zoning District Change
from Rural to Public on 55.6 acres, and Preliminary Plat of 55.6
acres into one lot and road right-of-way for construction of a
private school . The request also includes an amdnement of City Code
Chapter 11, Section 11.35, entitled "Public District," Subdivision
2, to allow private schools as a permitted use and private schools
with boarding as a permitted use, and to require park dedication of
such uses. Location: North of Bryant Lake, west of Rowland Road,
and east of Beach Road and I-494. A public hearing.
Ms. Tracy Whitehead, representative from International School of Minnesota,
stated that the existing offices of the proponent were located in New
Brighton. She stated that the plans for the first phase of the development
included construction of approximately 37,000 sq. ft., with the final phase
to include a total of approximately 120,000 sq. ft. for the use.
Ms. Whitehead stated that, compared to other possible uses for the property,
she believed that this use would be less intense, creating less traffic,
• requiring less City service in terms of water, sewer, etc., than other uses.
She added that the proponents were not developers who would be walking away
from the property at the completion of construction of the project, but that
they viewed this as an investment in the community, as well . Ms. Whitehead
stated that the use on the site would also be positive in that it would
create jobs in the community and that proponents believed it was compatible
• Planning Commission Minutes 3 February 23, 1987
with the surrounding uses of single family residences and the Hennepin
County Park Reserve District (HCPRD) Bryant Lake Regional Park use.
Mr. Gar Hargens, architect for proponents, reviewed the plans with the
Commission. He stated that the intent was to design the structures into the
topography of the site, working with the hill on the property. Mr. Hargens
noted that the more level areas of the property were proposed for parking
areas.
It was noted that currently, there were 80 students in the school, with a
future potential for approximately 1,400 students, total, according to Ms.
Whitehead. Mr. Hargens noted that the future construction phases included
construction of residences on the school campus for boarding of students.
Mr. Jim Steilen, attorney for proponents, reviewed issues of concern as
presented in a letter to the City which was delivered to Staff the afternoon
of the Planning Commission meeting, February 23, 1987. Mr. Steilen stated
that the concerns were:
1) Park Dedication Fees--Mr. Steilen stated that the proponents did not
believe that the use of a school introduced the need for park facilities in
a community in the way that residential uses did. He stated that the park-
like facilities that would be constructed as part of the school campus were
intended to meet that need. Referring to State Statute, Mr. Steilen stated
that the law required that a need be created by a use before park dedication
could be required, and that it was proponents' position that that need would
not be created by the use proposed.
2) Setback to Parking Area--Mr. Steilen stated that proponents felt
that moving the parking back from the lake another 75 ft. would not
accomplish much toward lessening the visibility of the parking area. He
expressed concern that doing so would impact the design of the entire site
and would require relocation of all uses on the property.
3) Roadway Width--Mr. Steilen stated that the 25 ft. wide road
accessing the property was the width of a standard road. He noted that
parking on the property was located in such a manner as to avoid the need
for parking in the roadway. He added that, from an aesthetics point of
view, proponents felt that a 25 ft. wide road would be preferrable to a 32
ft. wide road to help maintain the campus-like atmosphere of the development
and to have less asphalt on the property.
4) Crosstown Highway Access Design--Mr. Steilen stated that proponents
agreed with the new design for the access and would dedicate land required
if they could be assured that they would not be assessed for the
improvements and if the access could be reduced from 240 ft. to 160 ft. in
length. He noted that this would not only reduce the cost of the road
construction, but would also reduce the tree loss due to construction of so
• much roadway, and would allow for better slope conditions.
5) Roof Redesign--Mr. Steilen stated that the proponents preferred the
"flat" roof for the structures and felt that the Staff recommendation for
more residential character was inappropriate. , He added that the proponents
did not believe that a mansard roof would be appropriate, either.
• Planning Commission Minutes 4 February 23, 1987
Mr. Steilen concluded by stating that the most important issue to the
proponents was that of the park dedication fee. He asked that the
Commission consider action on this matter on as fast a track as possible as
they were proposing to be open for the 1987 Fall school term.
Planner Franzen reviewed the findings and recommendations of the Staff
Report of February 20, 1987, with the Commission. Other than standard
recommendations regarding public utilities, storm water drainage, erosion
control, parking, landscaping/screening, and relationship to the surrounding
neighborhood, the following specific items were discussed as matters of
concern.
With respect to the road within the development, Planner Franzen stated that
the standard road width was 32 ft. for commercial developments. Upon
checking with the other school uses in the community, Staff had found that
the road to the high school and the new elementary school were constructed
at a 32 ft. width. He added that the smallest road width in the project
vicinity was 28 ft. Staff was recommending that the road be at least 32 ft.
wide.
With respect to screening of the parking areas, Planner Franzen stated that
the Staff recommendation was for screening of the parking areas from the
lake and from higher elevations which had direct views to the parking lot.
He noted that this would require an additional 75 ft. of setback along with
berming and plantings in order to accomplish the screening of the parking.
Planner Franzen stated that the parking area would be visible from Beach
Road and from I-494, adding that this was similar to the visibility of the
Rainbow Foods parking lot from the residential neighborhood to the north of
it. He stated that relocation of the parking lot in combination with
plantings of larger overstory trees would accomplish the necessary screening
of the parking.
Regarding the request for residential character to the structures, Planner
Franzen noted that there were a number of ways to accomplish residential
character with architectural features, which would include a mansard roof on
the structures. He stated that Staff was not recommending that a mansard
roof be used, but instead had offered this as a suggestion as to how
residential character could be accomplished for the development. Planner
Franzen added that Staff would be willing to consider other methods of
introducing residential character to the structures.
With respect to the right-of-way required for the construction of the
Crosstown access to the property from the north, Planner Franzen stated that
it was possible that approximately 150 caliper inches of oak trees would be
removed by construction of the access as shown. However, he stated that
this amount of oak trees, compared to the number of trees on the overall
site, became a very small percentage of the trees. Planner Franzen noted
that in cases where safety was a matter of concern, Staff generally
recommended in favor of removal of the trees in order to provide for safer
road access for people using the road.
Regarding the recommendation for park dedication fees, Planner Franzen
stated that the proposal had been reviewed with the Community Services
Department and that the recommendation from their staff was for park
• Planning Commission Minutes 5 February 23, 1987
dedication fees for the property. He noted that this was a matter for the
Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission to discuss, also, and
that the Planning Commission may wish to refer this item to that commission,
with any comments they may have.
With respect to the emergency vehicle access, Planner Franzen stated that
Staff was recommending that such an access be created to Rowland Road in
order for emergency vehicles to have an alternative access available.
Without it, there would be only one access to the property.
Regarding the recommendation for no lighting of the athletic fields, Planner
Franzen stated that this was recommended due to complaints received
throughout the community where such lighting had existed. He stated that
this was a highly visible site and that lighted fields would be easily
visible from the adjacent residential neighborhoods.
With respect to the requested amendment to the Comprehensive Guide Plan,
Planner Franzen stated that Staff had considered the possibility of this use
within a commercial, or commercial service area, such as the Major Center
Area. However, proponents were requesting boarding as part of their use,
which was not allowed within any of the commercial areas. Also, as a school
for children of specific ages, Staff noted that all the public schools
within the Eden Prairie School District were located in areas guided Public,
• Elementary/Secondary areas of the Comprehensive Guide Plan. Therefore, for
consistency, and based on proposed use by the proponents, the change to
Public, Elementary/Secondary was considered, instead of to commercial .
Planner Franzen stated that all the issues raised by Staff in the Staff
Report of February 20, 1987, had been discussed with the proponents in
meetings between them and the Planning Staff, with the exception of the road
width of 32 ft.
Planner Enger discussed land use issues for the proposal with the
Commission. He stated that the previous proposal for the property by
Crow/Chasewood was one which would have shifted a land use out of the Major
Center Area to this site. It was a use which was clearly not appropriate
for the site based upon the intensity of the land use and the impact of that
intensity on this site.
With respect to the proposed school, Planner Enger stated that it was
Staff's opinion that this was a regional sized land use. During Staff
review of this proposal, one of the questions raised was whether the Major
Center Area was the only appropriate location for regional types of land
uses. He stated that this would be one of the questions the Commission
would need to answer for this proposal .
Specifically regarding this proposal, Planner Enger noted that this was
different from an office building in that there are very few schools of this
• size, or type, in the metropolitan area, and certainly within any one
community. This was not the case with office buildings. In that regard, the
City would not be setting a precedent of any sort by allowing such a land
use in this location. This was not the case with the previously proposed
office complex for this site.
Planning Commission Minutes 6 February 23, 1987
Planner Enger stated that this proposed use was not site-intensive. It was
a use which responded to the specific site in that the natural areas of the
trees, the adjacent Hennepin County Park, the lake, etc., would be
compatible with the school use. Sensitivity to the natural features of the
trees, lake, rolling hills, etc., could be accomplished by this proposed
use. This was not necessarily the case in the Major Center Area which was
designed to cater to more intense land use.
A question had been raised as to how this property had become designated as
Medium Density Residential/Public Open Space according to the Comprehensive
Guide Plan. Planner Enger explained that, initially, the area around Bryant
Lake had been designated as Low Density Residential, totally. The first
proposal for development of this property was by Metram Properties, and was
proposed prior to the Crow/Chasewood development. Metram had received
approval for a transfer of the density from a major portion of the 60+ acres
to the northwest portion of the site which allowed for an overall density
matching the Low Density Residential Guide Plan density for the 60+ acres,
but which also allowed for the dedication of the sensitive natural features
and lake front areas to the City for preservation. This proposal was
translated to match the Comprehensive Guide Plan by indicating an area for
Medium Density Residential in the northwest portion of the site and Public
Open Space for the remainder of the property in 1982 at the time of
amendment to the Comprehensive Guide Plan. The two uses were considered
• compatible with each other and City approved the plan. Specifically, 25
acres were to be developed at a Medium Density Residential level and
approxmately 40 acres were to be dedicated to the City for purposes of
augmenting the Bryant Lake Regional Park and for servicing the park needs of
the future residents of the area. Of course, the development never took
place, but, the approval remained in place.
Planner Enger noted that this proposal was more spread out across the
property than the Metram proposal. The Metram proposal used approximately
25 acres for structures and parking, whereas this proposal used twice that
amount of land for its structures, parking, and athletic fields. He noted
that there was no open space proposed for dedication to the public with this
proposal, whereas the Metram proposal was for approximately 40 acres of
dedication to the City.
Planner Enger stated that the City Attorney would be brought completely into
the process on the Park Dedication issue raised by the proponents.
Mr. Don Poupard, 6251 Beach Road, stated that he did not like the idea of
park dedication fees and that he was not in favor of it for this property.
He noted that he concurred with the Staff recommendation regarding more
residential character for the structures and regarding the entrance to the
Crosstown Highway. With respect to the park dedication fee requirement, Mr.
Poupard referred to previous City transactions and problems with Hennepin
County Park Reserve District and questioned whether this proponent was
suffering from a problem actually created by the City in the past.
Planner Enger explained that the transaction referred to by Mr. Poupard was
a negotiated dedication of park property to the City from the Metram
proposal . The City intended to use the property obtained by the dedication
to augment Bryant Lake Park, which, at that time, was owned by the City.
• Planning Commission Minutes 7 February 23, 1987
All of the requirement for park dedication was negotiated and agreed to by
Metram prior to any knowledge, or discovery, by the City of a "double
billing" of the Metropolitan Council that had occurred approximately ten
years prior to the Metram proposal . Planner Enger stated that the
requirement of the Metram dedication was not precipitated in any way by the
short-fall with the Metropolitan Council .
Mrs. Elaine Sorenson, 7121 Willow Creek Road, stated that many of the people
in the surrounding neighborhoods had lived close to Bryant Lake for a long
period of time. She stated that many proposals had been made on this
property, but that she and her neighbors were enthusiastic about the
proposed school development, more so than any other than had been reviewed.
She stated that she felt this would provide the City with a prestigious
educational alternative, as well . Mrs. Sorenson stated that she felt the
architecture was compatible with the surrounding neighborhood, pointing out
that there were other homes on Bryant Lake with flat roofs and that she felt
the flat roofs of the proposed structures did not conflict with the existing
residential character of development around the lake.
Gartner stated that she felt this site appeared to be an ideal location for
this proposed land use.
Ruebling stated that he concurred with Gartner. He added that he felt the
road should be 32 ft. wide if this was the standard used in the community at
this time. With respect to the screening of parking, Ruebling stated that
he felt the proponents should follow the Staff recommendation and meet the
Code requirement for screening of parking, adding that he appreciated that
this would be difficult on this particular property, but that he believed it
should be done to the best of the ability of the proponent.
Regarding an emergency access to the property, Ruebling stated that he felt
it was important to include such an access for the property. He asked if
there were any problems with obtaining the emergency vehicle access to
Rowland Road through the Hennepin County Park Reserve District property.
Mrs. Whitehead stated that it was proposed for emergency access only, but
that this was still being worked out with the Park Reserve District.
With respect to architecture, Ruebling stated that he felt the proposed
development should be residential in character, as recommended in the Staff
Report. Regarding the park dedication fee question, Ruebling stated that he
felt the most important consideration was that all developers be treated
equally, and consistently. He noted that all other private developers were
charged such fees and that this private development of the school should not
be treated any differently.
Anderson asked if churches were charged park dedication fees. Planner Enger
stated that he was unsure of the policy on this, but that he would check and
inform the Commission of the policy.
Anderson stated that he felt the proposed development was attractive and
that it would be an asset to the community. He stated that he felt the 32
ft. wide road was appropriate, particularly if this was the road width of
the public schools in the City, as well .
• Planning Commission Minutes 8 February 23, 1987
Bye expressed concern about the architecture. She stated that the example
shown of the Fresh Water Biological Institute also included a substantial
amount of mechanical equipment on the top of the roofs. Bye stated that she
did not feel this was acceptable, especially given the visibility of the
site. Regarding the issue of park fees, Bye stated that she preferred to
refer this issue to the Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission
for review.
Mr. Hargens, proponents' architect, stated that there would not be any need
for the vents on the roofs of the school structures, whereas they were
necessary for the research needs of the Institute.
Dodge stated that she concurred with the concerns of Bye regarding the
architecture for the proposed development and that she felt it should be
more residential in character. She stated that she concurred with the' Staff
recommendation that some other methods, other than roofs if the proponents
preferred, be used to introduce residential character to the structures.
Mrs. Elizabeth Close, Close Architects, representing proponents, stated that
the roofs were designed as they were for purposes of erosion control, as
well as aesthetics. She stated that pitched roofs on these structures would
be massive and possibly more intrusive on the landscape than the flat roofs
proposed.
• Mrs. Whitehead stated that they had tried to leave the woods alone on the
property and had made every effort to work the buildings into the hills,
instead of having to destroy the hill . Also, several buildings were
proposed, rather than one long structure in order to be sensitive to the
natural features and to provide interest on the property. She stated that
the flat roofs, in their opinion, provided the most unobtrusive view
possible of the structures.
Dodge stated that, with respect to the park dedication fees, she concured
with Ruebling, that the primary consideration was consistency of treatment
of all developers in the City.
Chairman Schuck stated that he did not feel that pitched roofs were the only
manner in which to introduce residential character to the structures,
although it was a common characteristic. He stated that he agreed with the
Staff recommendation regarding the need for more residential character and
that he was willing to consider other methods of introducing residential
character to -the proposal. He added that he felt the project was attractive
and that the land use was appropriate for the site. Chairman Schuck stated
that he felt strongly about the elimination of lighting of the athletic
fields for the property, as well .
Regarding the park dedication fees, Chairman Schuck stated that he was
unsure as to an appropriate action for this use and that the matter should
be referred to the Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission for
consideration.
Gartner stated that she felt the City should be consistent with the
treatment of developers and that if others had been charged for park
dedication fees, then this project should be included, also.
• Planning Commission Minutes 9 February 23, 1987
MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Bye, to recommend to the City
Council amendment of City Code Chapter 11, Section 11.35, entitled "Public
District," Subdivision 2, to allow private schools as a permitted use and
private schools with boarding as a permitted use, and to require Park
Dedication of such uses.
Motion carried--4-1-1 (Chairman Schuck abstained; Ruebling against)
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Bye, to continue public hearing on
this item to the March 9, 1987, Planning Commission meeting in order to
allow proponents opportunity to amend the plans taking into consideration
the items of concern of the Planning Commission at this meeting, and as
listed in the Staff Report of February 20, 1987. Further, that the Planning
Staff be directed to publish this item for review by the City Council for
its meeting of March 17, 1987.
Motion carried--6-0-0
V. OLD BUSINESS
None.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
None.
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
None.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Dodge, seconded by Ruebling.
Chairman Schuck adjourned the meeting at 9:30 p.m.