HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 08/11/1986 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Room 205
Monday, August 11, 1986
7:30 p.m.
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman Ed Schuck, Richard Anderson, Julianne Bye,
Christine Dodge, Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett, Charles
Ruebling
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael Franzen, Senior
Planner; Don Uram, Assistant Planner; Kate Karnas,
Administrative Assistant
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
III. MINUTES
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
(7:35) A. BLUESTEM HILLS, by Brown Land Company. Request for Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 26.86 acres and Preliminary Plat of
31.56 acres into 64 single family lots, one outlot, and road right-
of-way. Location: South of Bennett Place, north of Purgatory
Creek. A continued public hearing.
(8:05) B. PRAIRIE LUTHERAN CHURCH, by Adkins Association, Inc. Request for
Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from Low Density Residential to
Church on 10.97 acres, Zoning District Change from R1-22 to Public
on 10.97 acres, with variances to be reviewed by the Board of
Appeals, and Preliminary Plat of 10.97 acres into one lot for
construction of a church. Location: South of Pioneer Trail, north
of Blossom Road, and east of Bennett Place. A public hearing.
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI . NEW BUSINESS
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
NOTE: THE TIMES LISTED ABOVE ARE TENTATIVE, AND MAY BE SIGNIFICANTLY EARLIER,
OR LATER, THAN LISTED.
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MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, August 11, 1986
Room 205, School District Offices
7:30 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Ed Schuck, Rich Anderson, Julianne Bye, Christine
Dodge, Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett, Charles Ruebling
STAFF PRESENT: Michael D. Franzen, Senior Planner; Donald Uram, Assistant
Planner; Kate Karnas, Administrative Assistant
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION:
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Bye, to approve the agenda as
printed.
Motion carried--7-0-0
II. MEMBERS REPORTS
None.
III. MINUTES
MOTION:
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Bye, to approve the minutes of the
July 28, 1986, Planning Commission meeting as printed.
Motion carried--4-0-3 (Chairman Schuck, Commissioners Hallett and Ruebling
abstained)
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. BLUESTEM HILLS, by Brown Land Company. Request for Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 26.86 acres and Preliminary Plat of
31.56 acres into 64 single family lots, one outlot, and road right-
of-way. Location: South of Bennett Place, north of Purgatory
Creek. A continued public hearing.
Planner Franzen explained that this item had been continued from the July
28, 1986, Planning Commission meeting pending receipt of additional
information from the proponent.
. Mr. Peter Knaeble, representing proponent, referred to a letter from the
proponent dated August 1, 1986, which responded to the concerns raised at
the previous Planning Commission meeting regarding the proposal .
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Mr. Knaeble stated that the following changes to the plans had been made to
respond to the concerns of the Commission:
1) The grading plan had been amended to provide for positive overflow
in case the storm sewer system became blocked, and to avoid impact
on the catch basins within the development;
2) The tree inventory was revised to include the area to be disturbed
along Purgatory Creek for purposes of storm sewer construction and
it was pointed out that the mass grading of the property would only
cause the removal of one mature oak tree from the property;
3) The temporary lift station would be addressed during the course of a
feasibility study for upgrading of Bennett Place, at which time it
would be determined whether the lift station would be temporary, or
permanent. Meanwhile, the proponent was willing to provide the
temporary lift station for the immediate needs of the development,
and, if it was determined that the gravity sewer would be able to
service the property, the proponent was willing to connect to the
gravity sewer at such time as it became available to the site;
4) All three-to-one slopes resulting from the mass grading of the
property would be restored as part of the site maintenance by the
developer;
5) A draft of the proposed restrictive covenants for those lots located
adjacent to Purgatory Creek had been submitted to the City for
review;
6) The proponent agreed to be responsible for any future assessments
for gravity sewer to service the property;
7) Scenic easements would be dedicated to the City for that area within
the Conservancy District along Purgatory Creek by the developer;
8) It was estimated by the proponent that the cost of improvements to
Bennett Place would be approximately $121,000.00;
9) The developer was still not in favor of extension of Meade Lane due
to the existence of mature oak trees along the proposed alignment of
the extension. In addition, it was noted that the grade difference
was substantial in this area and extension of the road may require a
large amount of fill .
Mr. Knaeble stated that the proponent had one other area of concern, that
being the proposed tree replacement plan for the property. The proponent
asked that the tree replacement be allowed on a more flexible basis, rather
than being relegated to the three-to-one slope areas only. The proponent
• was suggesting a tree replacement plan whereby two two-inch caliper trees
would be planted on each lot, totalling 256 caliper inches of tree
replacement.
Planner Uram stated that the Staff had reviewed the proposed tree
replacement plan for the development, focusing on the number of trees that
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would be lost due to construction south of proposed Bluestem Lane. He
pointed out that the reason Staff had recommended replacement of these trees
in the three-to-one slope areas was for purposes of stabilization of the
slopes via vegetation.
Planner Uram stated that, after detailed consideration of the proposal of
the proponent to place two two-inch caliper trees on each lot, Staff was
concerned about the potential enforcement problems involved in such a plan.
For example, if the final lot was not sold for five years, the City would
need to require that the landscape bond for the property be maintained for a
period of seven years (two years beyond the date of final planting) . Also,
it would be difficult to schedule inspections of the site on a frequent
basis if trees were planted on many lots over a short period of time. For
these reasons, Staff was recommending that the replacement trees be located
in the sloped areas.
Regarding the proposed extension of Meade Lane, Planner Uram stated that
Staff's major concern was regarding circulation for the neighborhood
proposed and the existing neighborhood for purposes of traffic and safety
vehicles. He stated that Staff was willing to work with the proponent to
find an alternative routing for provision of better circulation in this
area. Planner Uram stated that Ms. Mary Wagner had contacted Staff with
respect to the proposed road extension and indicated that she was concerned
. that access be provided to her property in order to allow for development in
the future.
Planner Franzen explained that it would be possible to save more trees
within the proposed Meade Lane extension if the alignment of the extension
was moved to the west. He stated that Staff would continue to work with the
developer to ascertain the best alignment of the extension prior to City
Council review of the proposal .
Bye expressed concern about circulation within the neighborhood. She asked
if the extension of Bluestem Lane to the north would provide for a better
opportunity for circulation within this area. Planner Franzen responded
that this alternative was reviewed and rejected by Staff and the developer.
Ruebling stated that he, too, was concerned about the traffic circulation
for the neighborhood. He stated that, while he considered circulation
within the neighborhood a necessity, he did not necessarily feel it was
mandatory that the extension be along the proposed alignment for Meade Lane.
Anderson asked how long it would take for a tree to grow from a two-inch
diameter to a four-inch diameter. Planner Franzen stated that it could take
several years, depending on the environmental conditions. He added that
smaller trees of a two-inch diameter, or less, tended to suffer from damage
from wind and other environmental elements more readily than the larger
trees.
Hallett asked about the tree replacement policy. Planner Franzen stated
that the City would require tree replacement where necessary based on the
grading plan and that the City would require a bond covering a period of two
years, or two growing seasons, in order to guarantee stability of the
landscaping stock.
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Hallett stated that he concurred with other Commissioners regarding the need
for additional access to the north in order to allow for better traffic
circulation through the neighborhood. He added that he felt the location of
the access was something that could be worked out between the proponent and
the Staff prior to City Council review.
Hallett asked if the cul-de-sac for Bluestem Lane in the north portion of
the proposed development was permanent, or temporary. Planner Franzen
stated that Staff recommended that this be a permanent cul-de-sac due to the
topography in this area.
Chairman Schuck asked for comments, or questions, from members of the
audience. There were none.
MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Anderson, to close the public
hearing.
Motion carried--7-0-0
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Bye, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of Brown Land Company for Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-13.5 for 26.86 acres, to be known as Bluestem Hills,
based on revised plans and written materials dated August 5, 1986, subject
to the recommendations of the Staff Reports dated July 25, and August 8
1986, with the following added conditions: 1) Staff and proponent shall
determine an appropriate location for public road connection to the
neighborhood to the north for purposes of traffic circulation and access for
emergency vehicles; and 2) Developer shall be responsible for replacement of
252 caliper inches of trees based on a final grading plan, as approved
Staff, with appropriate location for said replacement trees to be determined
by Staff.
Motion carried--7-0-0
MOTION 3:
Motion was made by Gartner, seconded by Bye, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of Brown Land Company for Preliminary Plat
of 31.56 acres, to be known as Bluestem Hills, based on revised plans and
written materials dated August 5, 1986, subject to the recommendations of
the Staff Reports dated July 25, and August 8, 1986, with the following
added conditions: 1) Staff and proponent shall determine an appropriate
location for public road connection to the neighborhood to the north for
purposes of traffic circulation and access for emergency vehicles; and 2)
Developer shall be responsible for replacement of 252 caliper inches of
trees based on a final grading plan, as approved Staff, with appropriate
location for said replacement trees to be determined by Staff.
Motion carried--7-0-0
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B. PRAIRIE LUTHERAN CHURCH, by Adkins Association, Inc. Request for
Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from Low Density Residential to
Church on 10.97 acres, Zoning District Change from R1-22 to Public
on 10.97 acres, with variances to be reviewed by the Board of
Appeals, and Preliminary Plat of 10.97 acres into one lot for
construction of a church. Location: South of Pioneer Trail, north
of Blossom Road, and east of Bennett Place. A public hearing.
Mr. Roger Sjobeck, architect for proponents, reviewed the topography,
architecture, exterior elevations, and floor plans for the proposed
development with the Commission. He discussed the proposed Comprehensive
Guide Plan Change from Low Density Residential to Church noting that the
change would involve the displacement of 22 single family units on this
property.
Mr. Sjobeck stated that this would not be a substantial number of units
displaced given the overall community supply of land guided for Low Density
Residential use. With respect to impact on the site character, Mr. Sjobeck
stated that the development of the property as single family residential
would require substantially more grading than would be required by the
construction of the church, therefore, the impact on the land, itself, would
be less by this proposal . Regarding impact upon City services, Mr. Sjobeck
stated that the requested Comprehensive Guide Plan change would require the
upgrading of Blossom Road in this area; however, this would likely be the
case with development of the property as single family residential, as well.
Regarding whether the church would be a better use of the land, Mr. Sjobeck
stated that it was their opinion that churches and single family residential
neighborhoods made good neighbors for each other, that there was a
complimentary relationship between the two uses. He also noted that the
majority of the churches in the community were located in the northern half
of the City, and that this would balance the locations of churches in Eden
Prairie.
Planner Uram reviewed the findings and recommendations of the Staff Report
of August 8, 1986, regarding the development. In addition to standard
requirements regarding grading, utilities, erosion control, streets, and
park dedication, other specific cocerns about the project were raised by the
Staff review. Planner Uram stated that it would be necessary for the
proponent to submit a petition for public improvements for street
construction, sanitary sewer, and water main for Blossom Road. Staff was
also recommending changes to the landscape plan to increase the minimum
caliper inch for trees used for landscaping the site in order that they meet
the minimum City Code requirements of 22 caliper inches at the time of
planting. Staff had expressed concern in the Staff Report regarding the
scheduling of church services in conjunction with the Pax Christi Church,
located on the north side of County Road #1, in terms of traffic congestion
between services. Another required change to the plans in order to meet
City requirements included amendment to all plans to reflect the upgrading
of Blossom Road to a 50 ft. wide right-of-way. Planner Uram noted that it
would be necessary for the proponents to receive approval of a variance for
the use of wood as an exterior material for the structure and approval of a
variance to exceed the height limitations of the zoning district from the
Board of Appeals prior to construction. Also recommended as a condition of
approval was review of any additional building or land alteration to the
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site since the proponents were requesting zoning of the entire parcel, not
just a portion of it.
Planner Uram stated that the City had received a letter from the Hennepin
County Transportation Department regarding the upgrading of the intersection
of Blossom Road and County Road #1. The County was recommending that the
intersection be constructed at a 90 degree angle to County Road #1, or
closed off as a permanent cul-de-sac. The final alignment of the road, would
be determined by a feasiblity study.
With respect to traffic impact, Planner Uram stated that Staff had reviewed
the potential traffic in this neighborhood based on three churches--existing
Pax Christi Church, the proposed Prairie Lutheran Church, and Faith Nazarene
Church, which was currently being discussed with proponents at a Staff
level, with a formal application for development pending. It was determined
that County Road #1 would be able to handle the additional development, with
the addition of turn lanes for greater safety and ease of movement for
vehicles.
Regarding the upgrading of Blossom Road, Planner Uram stated that, due to
the recommendation of the Hennepin County Transportation Department, and
because of the feasibility study, Staff was recommending that geometric
changes be made to the intersection which would include the addition of turn
. lanes. He noted that the Prairie Lutheran and Pax Christi representatives
had already agreed by letter to work out scheduling differences to provide
for relief from the potential traffic problems on Sunday mornings.
Gartner questioned whether the parking ratio for the church was adequate to
meet the needs of parking for the use. Planner Uram stated that accepted
traffic engineering figures indicated that one parking space for each 2.5
seats in the church was an accepted standard. Eden Prairie required one
space for every three seats. Planner Franzen noted that this parking
formula was used for churches, assembly uses, restaurants, theaters, etc. ,
and that the City had not experienced difficulty with this formula.
Gartner asked what would happen to the exception parcel located along
Bennett Place upon development of this parcel . Planner Uram stated this
strip of property was guided for Low Density Residential development and
currently zoned R1-22; however, no building had taken place on the parcel at
this time. He stated development within those parameters was still
possible. Planner Franzen noted that it would also be possible for this
parcel to be developed as R1-13.5 in the future.
Anderson stated that he supported the recommended geometric changes to the
County Road #1 intersection. He added that, while the upgrading of Homeward
Hills Road north to Sunnybrook Road may help alleviate some of the traffic
concerns in this area, the turning lanes would still provide for better
traffic circulation in the neighborhood.
• Ms. Sandy Calkins, representative of the building committee for Prairie
Lutheran Church, stated that the church representatives were willing to work
with the other churches in the area to mitigate concerns about traffic
congestion before and after services.
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Bye stated that she felt the traffic issues may extend beyond Sunday
morning. For example, each of the churches would likely have choir
practices, various committee meetings, etc., with Wednesdays being the most
popular evening for this currently. She suggested that the three churches
work together regarding traffic resulting from these activities, as well.
Hallett expressed concern about another church in the community which had
added on to its main structure without landscaping, exposing a large, blank
wall to the public view.. He asked if the landscaping would be to scale for
this structure, given the request for variance to the maximum height allowed
in the district, in particular along the County Road #1 frontage. Planner
Franzen and Mr. Sjobeck discussed the orientation of the structure on the
site. It was determined that this would be reviewed prior to Council review
and that proponents would provide additional landscaping as may be necessary
to landscape the structure to scale on the north side, towards County Road
#1. Planner Franzen stated that, if necessary, elevations, or a model,
would be requested to assure that the landscaping would be appropriate from
County Road #1.
Hallett asked if the height of the structure would interfere with the
airport zones. Planner Franzen stated that Staff would review this.
Gartner asked why proponents were requesting an all wood exterior. Mr.
• Sjobeck responded that it was the opinion of the proponents that a wood
exterior would be more in keeping with the character of the residential
neighborhood.
Ms. Karen Radtke, 11021 Blossom Road, expressed concern about the future
upgrading of Blossom Road and the impact of the improvements on her
property. Planner Franzen explained the assessment process before the City
Council and stated that notices would be sent to all concerned property
owners regarding any proposed improvement. Ms. Radtke asked if this
improvement was being requested because of the proposed development of a
small single family plat south of the proposed church. Planner Franzen
explained that the City considered the church to be a developer, also, and
that development of the small single family plat was incidental to the
requirement for upgrading of the road. Ms. Radtke stated that she was also
concerned about the danger of the intersection at County Road #1 at this
time, and added that she encouraged the improvements proposed by Staff.
Ruebling asked if the improvement of the road would include sanitary sewer
and water main, also. Planner Franzen stated that services were available
to the church property from County Road #1. One of the purposes of the
feasibility study would be to determine the best manner in which to service
the church site for public utilities.
Gartner asked if it was appropriate to locate churches in a residential
neighborhood from a land use point of view. Planner Franzen noted that
churches were not designated in specific locations in the Comprehensive
. Guide Plan for purposes of allowing them to prove the case for their
specific use as to appropriate location. Traffic was always a major
consideration. He stated that there was a difference in need and
appropriateness of location based on the size of a church, also, noting the
regional sized church located in the northeast portion of the community.
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Dodge asked when the improvements to the turn lanes would be constructed.
Planner Uram stated that the timing of the improvements would be determined
by the feasibility study. Dodge asked if the upgrading of the intersection
of County Road #1 and Blossom Road would be a significant improvement to
this area. Planner Franzen stated that the proposed turn lanes and
realignment would improve the current situation, without the construction of
the church.
Ms. Caulkins stated that the position of the church was that they understood
that the upgrading of Blossom Road may be necessary, but that they were not
requesting it to be done as part of their project.
Dodge stated that she felt the upgrading of Blossom Road and the realignment
of its intersection with County Road #1 were necessary in order for
development of this property to take place.
MOTION 1:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Gartner, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried--7-0-0
• MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of the Adkins Association, Inc., for
Comprehensive Guide Plan Amendment from Low Density Residential to Church
for 10.97 acres for Prairie Lutheran Church, based on plans dated dated July
21, 1986, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated August 8,
1986, with the addition of the following conditions: le) Prior to review by
the City Council, proponent shall provide Staff necessary information
showing that the north side of the structure would be landscaped and
screened to the scale of the building from public view from County Road #1;
and lf) Prior to review by the City Council, the proposed variance for
height of the structure be reviewed against rules and regulations for the
Flying Cloud Airport zones.
Hallett asked when bikeways would be added along County Road #1 by the
County. Planner Franzen stated that the trail was to be constructed within
the right-of-way for County Road #1 and that there was no timing available
from the County at this time regarding the construction of the trail . He
stated that it may be necessary for the City to construct the trail along
County Road #1 and added that this matter would be referred to the Parks,
Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission for their review of this
project.
Motion carried--7-0-0
• MOTION 3•
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of the Adkins Association, Inc., for Zoning
District Change from R1-22 to Public for 10.97 acres for Prairie Lutheran
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Church, with variances to be reviewed by the Board of Appeals, based on
plans dated July 21, 1986, subject to the recommendations of the Staff
Report dated August 8, 1986, with the addition of the following conditions:
le) Prior to review by the City Council, proponent shall provide Staff
necessary information showing that the north side of the structure would be
landscaped and screened to the scale of the building from public view from
County Road #1; and 1f) Prior to review by the City Council, the proposed
variance for height of the structure be reviewed against rules and
regulations for the Flying Cloud Airport zones.
Motion carried--7-0-0
MOTION 4:
Motion was made by Bye, seconded by Ruebling, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of the Adkins Association, Inc., for
Preliminary Plat of 10.97 acres into one lot for construction of Prairie
Lutheran Church, baseed on plans dated July 21, 1986, subject to the
recommendations of the Staff Report dated August 8, 1986, with the addition
of the following conditions: le) Prior to review by the City Council,
proponent shall provide Staff necessary information showing that the north
side of the structure would be landscaped and screened to the scale of the
building from public view from County Road #1; and lf) Prior to review by
• the City Council, the proposed variance for height of the structure be
reviewed against rules and regulations for the Flying Cloud Airport zones.
Motion carried--7-0-0
V. OLD BUSINESS
None.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
None.
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
None.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Bye, seconded by Dodge. Chairman Schuck
adjourned the meeting at 9:05 p.m.