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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 05/11/1981 AGENDA Eden Prairie Planning Commission Monday, May 11, 1981 7:30 PM, City Hall COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman, Liz Retterath, Matthew Levitt, Grant Sutliff, Virginia Gartner, Hakon Torjesen, Robert Hallett STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning Sue Schulz, Planning Secretary Pledge of Allegiance - Roll Call I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA II. APPROVAL OF APRIL 27, 1981 MINUTES III. MEMBERS REPORTS IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. HARDEE'S RESTAURANT, by North Central Food Systems, Inc. Request to rezone 1.1 acres from Rural to Com- Reg-Service for a Hardee's Restaurant. Located in the Southwest corner of U.S. 169 & Eden Road. A public meeting. B. WILLOW CREEK 2ND ADDITION, by Elaine L. Sorensen, Joel R. Harding & Kathleen J. Harding, John P. Wilkie & Bonita L. Wilkie, Vernon C. Geiger & Barbara A. Geiger, and Gerald Schoenfelder. Request to replat Willow Creek Farm into 5 residential lots and 3 outlots. Located South of Bryant Lake and West of Flying Cloud Drive. A public hearing. V. OLD BUSINESS A. Review of Changes to Ban Con's Northmark Quad Units. B. Chapter 11 of Codification VI. NEW BUSINESS A. Cancellation of the regularly scheduled meeting of May 25, 1981 as it is Memorial Day. VII. PLANNER'S REPORT A. PUD size change VIII. ADJOURNMENT MI NU;TES EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION approved Monday, May 11, 1981 7:30 PM, City Hall MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman William Bearman, Liz Retterath, Matthew Levitt, Virginia Gartner, Grant Sutliff, Hakon Torjesen, Robert Hallett(7:35) MEMBERS ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning Sue Schulz, Planning Secretary I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Torjesen moved to approve the agenda as submitted. Sutliff seconded, motion carried 6-0. II. APPROVAL OF APRIL 27, 1981 MINUTES Gartner moved to approve the minutes as submitted. Sutliff seconded, motion carried 6-0-1. Retterath abstained. III. MEMBERS REPORTS Torjesen stated that he saw bikers and joggers using the hikeway/bikeway path. IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. HARDEE'S RESTAURANT, by North Central Foods Systems Inc. Request to rezone 1.1 acres from Rural to Com-Reg-Ser for a Hardee' s Restaurant. Located in the Southwest corner of US 169 & Eden Road. A public meeting. The Planner stated that Hardee's will be going before the Board of Appeals for a variance, that the proponent will be back for preliminary platting, and suggested C-Hwy zoning rather than C-.Comm., District. He also introduced Mr. Geoff Martin of Howard Dahlgren Associates. Martin reviewed the site plan for the original Eden Glen PUD, access points for Hardee' s, site plan for Hardee's, landscaping plan, and stated that the proponent is willing to comply with the staff's recommendations in the staff report. He also reviewed the elevations of the building, signage and stated that there will be only a wall sign facing US 169. the 20 foot pylon sign will be no more than 57 !'q. ft. and halfw,ay between Eden Glen Raod and US 169/212 on Eden Road. The Planner reviewed the staff report dated May 8, 1981. Martin stated that Jesco Inc. has agreed to have Eden Road and Eden Glen Road hard surfaced prior'to Hardee' s occupancy. .approved Planning Commission Minutes -2- May 11, 1981 Sutliff asked what the clearance under the drive-thru canopy will be. Paul Stanley, North Central Foods Systems, Inc. stated that the clearance will be 10' 6". Sutliff asked who would pay for the signal along US 169 if one was to be put in. The Planner replied that he believed the State's standard formula was 50%to be payed for by the City, and 50% by the State Highway Department. Levitt asked what the surrounding lots will be in the Eden Glen PUD. Martin re- plied Lot 2-fast food; 3-Class 1 restaurant; 4-retail ; 5, 6, & 7-offices. Retterath asked if the storm sewer plan for Lake Idlewild has been resolved: The Planner replied yes a project was underway. Torjesen asked if the culvert under Eden Road to Lake Idlewild is large enough and if sediment will gather in it from construction. Paul Blaise, Howard Dahlgren Assoc. , replied yes it is large enough and it is being protected from sediment by erosion control. Torjesen asked if the proponents or staff has any ,preferen_c_e for the -zoning _category. Martin replied no. The Planner suggested C-Hwy._ Hallett asked if the evergreens (used on the US 169 slope) would be subject to salt spray from US 169. The Planner replied yes, but that there were types that would be more salt tolerant. _ Bearman asked if this is the same as the original PUD. Martin replied that there has been a minor change in Hardee' s entrance, consolidating two access points to one. Bearman stated that he did not feel that 12 cars would be able to be stacked up for the drive-thru, as. had been represented. The Planner replied that this dimension could be checked. Don Sorensen, 7121 Willow Creek Road asked where run-off from the storm sewer will go. The Planner replied it ultimately flows to Purgatory Creek. MOTION Torjesen moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning from Rural to C-Hwy for a Hardee's Restaurant as per the April 28, 1981 brochure and the May 8, 1981 staff report with the following changes in the staff report: 1. Item 1, strike first three words and insert 'Developer has agreed' Retterath seconded. DISCUSSION Sutliff suggested that the placement of signs halfway between Eden Glen Road and US 169, less than 60 sq. ft. in size be followed by the rest of the uses along US 169. Levitt asked why the preliminary plat was not included in the request at this time. The Planner replied that it was not quite ready but it will be coming. Motion carried 7-0. approved Planning Commission Minutes -3- May 11, 1981 Bearman turned the chair over to Retterath, because Don Sorensen is his attorney, to avoid any possible conflicts. B. WILLOW CREEK 2ND ADDITION, by Elaine L. Sorensen, Joel R. Harding & Kathleen J. Harding, John P. Wilkie & Bonita L. Wilkie, Vernon C. Geiger & Barbara A. Geiger, and Gerald Schoenfelder. Request to replat Willow Creek Farm into 5 residential lots and 3 outlots. Located South of Bryant Lake and West of Flying Cloud Drive. A public hearing. The Planner stated that this property was rezoned in 1980 and that Mr. Don Sorensen was present to give the presentation. Sorensen reviewed the changes made from 1980 to present. He stated the staff report refers to the curb and gutter as concrete, but it will be black-top. He also stated that the City Forester has been to the site to study the trees, and that he has talked to the surrounding landowners and there has been no opposition. The Planner reviewed the staff report dated May 7, 1981. Sorensen stated that there was no objections to the staff' s recommendations. Sutliff asked if there could be a cash bond fee to prevent the destruction of trees during the grading process. The Planner replied that the Forester has been at the site, and found most trees to be Cottonwood, Aspen, Lilacs, etc. so there would be no reason for the restriction. Sorensen then replied that they have tridd to • save as many trees as possible and he and Mr. Harding will be on the site personally when any grading is being done to guard against additional tree loss. Torjesen asked the percentage of grade of the access road. Sorensen replied the percentage is 3%. Torjesen then asked if docks are anticipated. Sorensen replied two; which will be used by lots 1, 2, 4, & 5. Retterath asked if lot 3 would have access to the docks. Sorensen replied that the Wilkie' s own lot 3 and would not have access to the docks. Levitt felt that the plan does not conform to the Shoreland Management Act because of lots less than 5 acres in an unsewered area. Levitt asked if the land to the south is within 1000 feet of the lake. Sorensen replied yes. Hallett asked when sewer is planned for this area. The Planner replied that the land has just recently been accessible to City sewer and if problems did occur, sewer could go in, but the proponents did not wish to be served at this time. Torjesen stated that he was concerned with the width of the cul-de-sac. Levitt asked why the black-top road would be 24' instead of the standard 28' . The • Planner replied more trees will be saved, the road is being built by one property owner, but only serving lots on one side, and the number of lots to be served was small . Sutliff asked if the road would be a City road or private. The Planner replied public. Retterath asked if anyone in the audience had questions or comments. None were raised. • t approved Planning Commission Minutes -4- May 11, 1981 MOTION 1 Gartner moved to close the public hearing on Willow Creek 2nd Addition. Torjesen seconded, motion carried 6-0-1. Bearman abstained. MOTION 2 Gartner moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the Willow Creek 2nd Addition revised preliminary plat dated April 27, 1981 as per the staff report dated May 7, 1981. Torjesen seconded adding to recommendation #2 of the report: 50' ROW from the road to be dedicated to the City and 100' of ROW from the cul - de-sac to be dedicated to the City. Motion carried 5-0-2. Levitt and Bearman abstained. V. OLD BUSINESS A. Review of changes to Ban Con's Northmark Quad Units. in the 3rd & 4th Add. The Planner stated that'Hans Hagen,of Hans Hagen Homes (formerly Ban Con) was present to give a brief review of the changes. Hagen stated that he had distributed material to adjacent landowners on the unit modification. He stated that the basic difference is the height and floor plan, and the rest is the same. • Sutliff asked if there will be more units than proposed. Hagen replied no but that he would like to inter-mix the previous units with the new ones. Bob Dunbar, 11270 Landwood Circle asked if there would be different land- scaping done. Hagen replied that similar landscaping would be done. Larry Peterson, The Preserve, stated that The Preserve reviews the new designs and subsequent changes to the homeowners committee. Mike Peterson, 11140 Lanewood Circle stated that he felt that the new unit will reduce the existing property values. Les Sebo, 11275 Landwood Circle stated that he did not understand the need for adding a new unit. Hagen replied that the new units will make it easier for newly marrieds, single people, and retired people to purchase. Sutliff asked if the new unit could be changed from a one-car garage to a two-car garage. Hagen replied that it would enlarge the ground coverage above what had been planned for in the original plat.. Gartner stated that she was concerned that there was only one exit from the house. Hagen replied that the door from the house to the garage is now standard. MOTION Hallett moved to accept the unit design change requested by Hans Hagen Homes for Northmark Third and Fourth Additions. Gartner seconded, motion carried 3-2-2. Hallett, Gartner, & Retterath voted "aye" ; Levitt and Torjesen voted "no" ; Bearman and Sutliff abstained. Bearman abstained because he felt the change was not significant enough to require a review by the Planning Commisssion. Levitt stated that he was persuaded that the introduction of the new unit could have an impact on the surrounding neoghbors not contemplated in the original plan. :approved Planning Commission Minutes -5- May 11, 1981 B. Chapter 11 of Codification MOTION Sutliff moved to continue Chapter 11 of Codification to a special meeting on May 20, 1981 at 7:00 PM. Gartner seconded, motion carried 7-0. VI. NEW BUSINESS A. Cancellation of the regularly scheduled meeting of May 25, 1981 because it is Memorial Day. The meeting was rescheduled for May 20, 1981 for Codification and review of the Tax Increment Financing Plan. VII. PLANNER'S REPORT A. PUD size change The Planner reviewed the memo dated May 8, 1981, suggested reduction of the 25 acre requirement in Ordinance 135 for a PUD. The Commission was uncomfortable with reduction of the PUD size because they felt it would compromise the standards in the ordinance. They did feel that the smaller portions of an overall PUD Concept, that were brought . in for platting or zoning should be accorded PUD status with regard to possible waivers that could be granted by the Council . The Commission suggested the City Attorney incorporate this ability in the ordinance as part of the Codification Process. VIII. ADJOURNMENT Retterath moved to adjourn the meeting at 10:55 PM. Sutliff seconded, motion carried 7-0.