HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 06/08/1992 EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
APPROVED MINUTES
MONDAY, JUNE 89 1992 7:30 PM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7600 Executive Drive
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Ken Clinton, James Hawkins,
Katherine Kardell, Karen Norman, Doug
Sandstad, Mary Jane Wissner.
STAFF MEMBERS: Michael Franzen, Senior Planner; substitute
Recording Secretary
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION:
Kardell moved, seconded by Wissner to approve the Agenda as published.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
II. MEMBERS REPORTS: None.
M. MINUTES
MOTION:
Clinton moved, seconded by Kardell to approve the minutes of May 11, 1992
Planning Commission meeting as published. Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION:
Kardell moved, seconded by Wissner to approve the minutes of the May 26, 1992
Planning Commission meeting as published. Motion carried 4-0-1.
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. TWIN CITY FEDERAL by Twin City Federal. Site Plan Review on 1.06
acres. Zoning District Amendment within the C-Regional Service Zoning District
on 1.06 acres.
Franzen reported that TCF has always been a part of proposed plans for this area.
The plan currently in the packet has been changed in response to concerns of the
traffic engineer consulted; drive-thru traffic has been separated from parking
traffic.
Jim Ruckle of Shea Architects explained that the building had been rotated 90
degrees to adjust traffic flow. This change leaves all 30 parking stalls usable &
unblocked by drive-thru traffic. The plan also includes screening along 169 with
visibility for signage. Trash will be stored inside the building.
Sandstad asked about the necessity of the curb cut being perpendicular to the
roadway, Franzen replied that the traffic engineer had recommended it at right
angles and there is 30 feet of space to work with. Hawkins pointed out that
attachment B showed a different curb cut. Sandstad pointed out that drive-thru's
don't look good from the road anyway, and "C" would look better from 169.
Kardell asked if the future ATM site would interfere with traffic flow; the
architect answered that it may never happen and could very well remain indoors.
Kardell and Hawkins asked about card-key entrance to the vestibule for ATM
use; no definitive answer was given however Franzen said that the ATM location
had been moved at the recommendation of the police department for lighting and
safety reasons.
Sandstad asked about the exterior appearance and whether it would match
surrounding buildings(Towers and MacDonalds); Franzen presented the materials
board and noted that TCF is willing to work with city on colors and materials as'
• those currently proposed are too contrasting.
Franzen recommended that the Commission approve the Site Plan with three
amendments; 1) revising exterior materials and elevations to match those
surrounding, 2) revised landscape plan, and 3) widen out the drive and soften the
radius.
MOTION 1:
Kardell moved, seconded by Clinton to close the public hearing. Motion carried
5-0-0.
MOTION 2:
Kardell moved, seconded by Clinton to approve the request of Twin City Federal
for Site Plan Review on 1.06 acres based on plans dated May 8, 1992, subject to
the recommendations of the Staff report dated June 5, 1992. Motion carried 5-0-
0.
Hawkins stated that he felt the plan must include indoor accommodations for
trash, as he has raised concern about paper trash in the Tower area before.
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• All agreed that it would be acceptable to add this condition to approval; also the
correction of the bituminous trail/concrete sidewalk positioning on the plan.
MOTION 3:
Kardell moved, seconded by Clinton to approve the request of Twin City Federal
for Zoning District kmendment within the Commercial Regional Zoning District
on 1.06 acres based on plans dated May 8, 1992, subject to the recommendations
of the Staff Report dated June 5, 1992. Motion carried 5-0-0.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. JOINT PLANNING COMMISSION/CITY COUNCIL MEETING, TUNE
16TH.
Franzen talked about the history of how joint commission/council meetings have
gone in the past, and how they have been given structure.
Sandstad asked why developers are not given the full bill for reviewing plans.
Franzen answered that the fees cover mailings, etc. Traffic consulting is paid for
by the developer, an example being the outside traffic consultant used in the TCF
action.
• Wissner stated that she thought landbanking was important, other members
agreed. Bauer stated that landbanking is a sub-issue of whether the commission
will take a pro-active or a re-active approach to planning the community.
Franzen pointed out that the commission and staff had been pro-active in the TCF
project by helping out and seeking solutions.
Bauer mentioned "dealing" with developers within the parameters of City
Ordinance being good for all concerned. Sandstad mentioned a lack of balance
in construction due to the economy and the city could do more to encourage
entry-level housing. Franzen referenced San Francisco where developers were
required to make provisions for affordable housing in conjunction with office
developments.
Bauer stated concern that Eden Prairie has not been pro-active enough in planning
and development of the community.
Kardell spoke of the Walmart proposal and was concerned that the developer was
encouraged by the Council to treat the Commission as a formality. She felt it
was important that the Commission be treated as a significant part of the
development team. She hoped that the Council would see the Commission as
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valuable and on significant projects like the golf course to be included in the
process from the beginning.
Sandstad was also frustrated with Walmart and felt that the project was big and
controversial. The Council heard about it first and he felt the Commission wasn't
given a fair chance to respond. He pointed out the issue of reading about a
project in the newspaper with a "qualified endorsement" of the City Council
before the Commission has completed a review.
Clinton pointed out that without a philosophy or a future in mind for Eden
Prairie, making decisions on "when to deal" when working with developers is
unguided.
Franzen cited "balanced growth" as the past philosophy of the City.
Hawkins spoke about the role of the commission in backing staff, listening to
staff and developers, and serving as a buffer for City Council. He suggested they
"ask questions, be a forward-thinking body".
Tim Bauer excused himself from the meeting.
Sandstad proposed that the Commission have a one-item agenda for the joint
. meeting: the future philosophy for Eden Prairie. All other commissioners
agreed.
B. UPCOMING AGENDA
Franzen handed out upcoming agenda items for 6-22-92 and went over it briefly.
The commission agreed that they would like a presentation on Fairfield West
before making a field trip to the cite.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION:
Hawkins moved, seconded by Sandstad to adjourn the meeting at 9:20 PM,
motion carried 4-0-0.
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, June S, 1992
7:30 p.m.
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Kenneth E. Clinton, Karen Norman, Jim
Hawkins, Katherine Kardell, Doug Sandstad, Mary Jane
Wissner
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael D. Franzen,
Senior Planner; Donald Uram, Planner; Deb Edlund,
Recording Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance -- Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
H. MEMBERS REPORTS
M. MINUTES
IV. DISCUSSION ITEMS
• A. TWIN CITY FEDERAL by Twin City Federal. Site Plan Review on
1.06 acres. Zoning District Amendment within the C-Regional Service
Zoning District on 1.06 acres.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. Joint Planning Commission/City Council Meeting Tune 16th.
Prepare agenda items.
VI. PLANNERS' REPORTS
A. Upcoming Agenda Items for June 22, 1992
VII. ADJOURNMENT