HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 10/24/1994 • APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
October 24, 1994
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Kenneth E. Clinton, Randy
Foote, Katherine Kardell, Douglas
Sandstad, Edward Schlampp, Mary Jane
Wissner
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Matthew Mahoney
STAFF MEMBERS: Donald R. Uram, Planner
Elinda Bahley, Recording Secretary
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE-ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7 : 00 p.m. by Chair
Katherine Kardell. Absent were Douglas Sandstad. All
other members were present.
. II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Clinton moved, seconded by Schlampp, to approve
the Agenda as published. Motion carried 6-0-0
Kardell took a moment to introduce the new student
representative, Matthew Mahoney. She told him to feel
free to ask questions and to give input on the issues at
hand.
III. MINUTES
MOTION: Schlampp moved, seconded by Clinton, to approve
the Minutes of October 10, 1994 as published. Motion
carried 5-01 with Bauer abstaining.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. SUPER VALU CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS ADDITION by Super Valu
Corporation. Request for PUD Concept Review on 135
acres . Location: North of Valley View Lane, between
Highway 212 and I-494.
Kardell stated that in the packet there is a letter from
the developers asking for a continuance to the November
14, 1994 meeting.
MOTION 1: Clinton moved, seconded by Foote, to continue
• the Public Hearing to November 14, 1994 as requested by
proponent. Motion carried 6-0-0.
B. BEST BUY EXPANSION by Best Buy. Request for PUD District
Amendment on 27 . 8 acres with a waiver, Zoning District
Amendment in the I-2 District and Site Plan Review on
27 .8 acres . Location: 7075 Flying Cloud Drive.
Uram introduced Mr. Chris Johnson from Best Buy. He said
he will make a brief presentation. After his
presentation, Uram will go over the staff report and make
one revision to the recommendations.
Chris Johnson, Best Buy Real Estate Department, reviewed
his project using visual aids. He stated that Best Buy's
rapid growth is catching up with them again, and they are
looking to add staff to their building. They would like
to stay in their building and want to add a second story
within their existing building. They are not proposing
to work on the exterior of the building with the
exception of adding more windows .
He said they need to increase the parking. They are, by
Code, slightly over. What they are required to have
right now, and the census of people, they will not have
• enough parking.
They are proposing a multi phase plan. For phase one
they are proposing to grade the wooden area on the north
side of the building. All natural area would be left on
the site as it is . Long range would be to build a
parking ramp on the site that would be in the same area.
Originally, a good portion of this area was swamped. it
has good soil underneath so it would be a good area to
build around eventually.
Uram reviewed the Staff Report with the Planning
Commission. He stated that there are a couple of things
he would like to note about the Staff Report. As part of
the development of this proposal and the additional
parking lot, Best Buy is adding a catch basin system in
the existing parking lot so the run-off from the parking
lot would be discharging into a NURP pond and into Mile
Creek. They are adding catch basins along the eastern
portion of the site, also picking up some run-off from
the parking lot. From that standpoint the project is
improving water quality in the area.
In the Staff Report there is a technical oversight and
this relates to allowing Best Buy to begin construction
of the office space right now. Due to their desire to
construct over the winter, they have negotiated an
agreement with an adjacent property owner to the east for
parking spaces . In regard to that technical aspect, Best
Buy requires a temporary waiver to allow for off-site
parking for up to 100 parking stalls . It's temporary in
nature because once Best Buy constructs the proposed
parking lot, that other parking will be eliminated. He
said that after speaking with Mr. Johnson, . he indicated
they should be able to complete all the work by June 30,
1995 .
The recommendation in the Staff Report would be to grant
a waiver for temporary off-site parking for up to 100
parking stalls until June 30, 1995 .
Schlampp asked what company to the east of this site is
going to donate the parking for that period of time.
Johnson replied that directly to the east of them is
owned by Partnership and Best Buy wants to rent another
one of their vacancies .
Schlampp asked if they have this availability yet.
Johnson replied no. They have a lease that says if they
rent this other building from them, they can have one
right now. He said they have a lot of unused parking.
Schlampp expressed concern of being asked to approve this
• parking before this is being done.
Johnson stated that it's contingent on it being done.
Uram stated that the recommendation could be made with
any verbiage that the Planning Commission seems to feel
fit.
Schlampp asked if the drainage pond is to the east.
Uram said it is to the south. He stated that the
requirement of this project is to add the additional
catch basins and be shown on the plans prior to City
Council.
Schlampp asked how do you get from the parking lot in the
east over to the area that they are negotiating to get
the parking. He asked if they are putting in a road or
something over there.
Johnson replied that they will be putting in a sidewalk
between the two buildings and tie it into one.
Schlampp expressed concern that there was no way to get
into it so they are going to have to run a connection
also.
Bauer stated that their old office used to be on 494 and
seems like they have much more space now than they did
over there.
Johnson said they have a rapid growth, and they are very
crowded in there right now.
Clinton asked where if most of the employees come from
outside of Eden Prairie that would be coming to the
building.
Johnson replied that he would guess approximately a
majority of them because they just moved to Eden Prairie
in the last year. They just added 8 people and 4 of them
were from Eden Prairie.
Clinton expressed concern about the traffic with an
additional 200 cars coming in. He said that in the
afternoon that's a very crowded area.
Johnson replied that they do not have an 8 to 5 office
type arrangement. The only time the field is full is at
about 11: 00 in the morning and at 2 : 00 in the afternoon.
People leave there at 2 :30 and get there at 6 : 00 in the
morning, and there are still people there at 6: 00 at
night.
• Wissner asked if Best Buy realized when they bought the
building that they would have to expand since they
haven't been there that long.
Johnson said Best Buy thought they would have a couple of
years growth here. They still have about 40 people in
the Bloomington warehouse that they would like to bring
over.
Foote stated that Best Buy thought when they bought the
building a year ago they would have at least another year
on the configurations at that time. He asked what
happens when this continues for another year, is the
Planning Commission going to be visited by Best Buy
again.
Johnson replied that what they are calling for is a long
range plan and right now they are adding 30, 000 feet of
mezzanine and they are not finishing that out. They are
not asking for that right now because they don't have the
parking stalls for it. He said Best Buy feels 60,000
feet is good for somewhere between 100 and 150 stores for
2 or 3 years .
Kardell expressed concern about the waiver to have the
additional office space. She has thought a lot about it
and view of it, it's a building that is not particularly
visible and doesn't see a reason in trying to make the
building comply with the office. She is not sure whether
or not this sets some sort of problem or precedent. This
is the first time she has ever seen an industrial use
come up with a need for a waiver because of the access of
the space. She said that she can support it.
Foote stated that he does not see a problem with it.
MOTION 1: Bauer moved, seconded by Wissner, to close the
public hearing. Motion carried 6-0-0.
MOTION 2: Bauer moved, seconded by Wissner, to recommend
to the City Council approval of the request of Best Buy
for PUD District Amendment with a waiver and Zoning
District Amendment in the I-2 District on 27 . 8 acres
based on revised plans dated October 7 and October 12,
1994, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff
Report dated October 21, 1994 with the following
modifications:
1. The Planning Commission's approval is contingent
upon approval of the proponent getting an
additional parking lot to allow for winter
construction.
2 . The Planning Commission will allow a temporary
. waiver for 100 parking spaces through June 30,
1995, which would be done prior to going ahead with
the project.
3 . The Planning Commission's approval is contingent
upon the applicant proving submittal of 100 parking
spaces.
Motion carried 6-0-0.
Schlampp expressed concern about approving drainage when
they don't see the details of it. There are also details
of the parking lot missing, the access to the parking lot
and access to public pedestrian access to that parking
area. He has no idea of what it's going to look like.
The project is not outlined well enough for him and they
are asked to make a waiver of things that he can not see.
Foote said he agrees with Schlampp. He stated that
sometimes the simpler projects are sent on their way. He
doesn't know if that's right or not.
Uram stated that it was at his recommendation and
suggestion to Best Buy that they not revise this . He
said they sat down and spent a significant time regarding
the catch basin system and the storm water calculations
with the City Engineer and with Best Buy's engineer with
the understanding that revising plans would cost a lot of
money. He said if there is any blame, it is his fault.
Schlampp said he has to raise an objection to this plan
but if the Commission goes along with it, he will also.
He feels it's not being handled the way it should be
handled for the Commission.
Bauer stated that he does not disagree with what Schlampp
said. He said he doesn't think that the Planning
Commission needs to continue these type of projects of
bringing them back because it doesn't make sense at all.
He said they have in the past, and he hopes to continue,
to move projects along which are not 100% upon
demonstration, where the items are small and Staff
assures the Commission that prior to City Council the
project will be complete. He said he is comfortable with
the Staff Report.
Kardell stated she is comfortable with the project.
Foote said he has every confidence that everything will
be taken care of. He said sometimes small things are
pushed on.
Schlampp stated that this is big and not small at all.
. V. MEMBERS REPORTS
None.
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
Uram stated that Franzen indicated he has not had the
opportunity to take with Watershed. He said Franzen will
try to schedule it soon with Bob Obermeyer.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
None.
VIII . PLANNERS' REPORTS
Bauer asked whether the access issue got worked out on
the Buca Restaurant project.
Uram replied that Staff has received a letter from MNDOT
stating that access issue will be resolved and the
parking spaces they would take with the construction of
212 would be replaced. He said he sent that to Pete
today and he's going to review it and sent it back to
him. Staff expects to get that project taken care of.
• Kardell asked about Centrum and the Leann Chin project.
She asked if they are going to be building something soon
because they were supposed to be opening in November.
Uram said don't expect Leann Chin to be open this winter.
He said they were scheduled to close with Centrum on
Friday and that the closing did not take place. He said
they let the purchase agreement lapse on the property
which gives Centrum 30 days. Staff is spending an
abnormal amount of time on this project. They expect to
end this within 30 days. He said the problem is trying
to find a developer that will actually be building the
project. Restaurants are very hard to do.
Clinton asked about the final phases of the water tower.
Uram replied next year.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Clinton moved, seconded by Foote, to adjourn the
meeting. Motion carried 6-0-0. The meeting was
adjourned at 7 :45 P.M.
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, October 24, 1994
me7:00 p.m.
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Kenneth E. Clinton, Randy Foote, Katherine Kardell,
Douglas Sandstad, Edward Schlampp, Mary Jane Wissner
STAFF MEMBERS: Michael D. Franzen, Senior Planner
Don Uram, Planner
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Matthew Mahoney
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE -- ROLL CALL
H. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. MINUTES
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. SUPER VALU CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS ADDITION by Super Valu Corporation.
Request for PUD Concept Review on 135 acres. Location: North of Valley View Lane,
between Highway 212 and I-494.
B. BEST BUY EXPANSION by Best Buy. Request for PUD District Amendment on 27.8 acres
with a waiver, Zoning District Amendment in the I-2 District and Site Plan Review on 27.8
acres. Location: 7075 Flying Cloud Drive.
V. MEMBERS' REPORTS
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
VII. NEW BUSINESS
VIII. PLANNERS' REPORTS
IX. ADJOURNMENT